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Weekend viewing - This is What Winning Looks Like

"This Is What Winning Looks Like" is a disturbing new documentary about the ineptitude, drug abuse, sexual misconduct, and corruption of the Afghan security forces as well as the reduced role of US Marines due to the troop withdrawal. In part one, we see just how chaotic and hopeless the situation is in Sangin, one of the most violent towns in Afghanistan. - Vice
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Thanks for sharing this; recommended viewing!

This was very interesting and gives a credible, up-close perspective on what's happening in Afghanistan that we won't get from a mainstream media that's increasingly about entertainment. It's a full movie, and well worth the time to kick back and watch.

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It's sort of like the Los Angeles PD asking the Crips to recruit the Sureños to fend off the Bloods.

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oopsie, didn't see yours before it got frontpaged, but

for your convenience, here are rest of the videos and additional Vice.com and BBC Panorama links:

Horrors of War: ViCE.com: "This is What 'Winning' Looks Like." (3-Part AfPak Mini-Docu Series)

This Is What Winning Looks Like (Part 1/3)

http://youtu.be/BKHPTHx0ScQ
vice
Published on May 15, 2013

"This Is What Winning Looks Like" is a disturbing new documentary about the ineptitude, drug abuse, sexual misconduct, and corruption of the Afghan security forces as well as the reduced role of US Marines due to the troop withdrawal.

In part one, we see just how chaotic and hopeless the situation is in Sangin, one of the most violent towns in Afghanistan.

Watch part 2 here: http://bit.ly/What-Winning-Looks-Like-2

Read the full article here: http://www.vice.com/read/this-is-what-winning-looks-like-000...

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Watch our podcast interview with Ben Anderson, the producer of "This Is What Winning Looks Like," here: http://bit.ly/Ben-Anderson-Podcast

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This Is What Winning Looks Like (Part 2/3)

http://youtu.be/S77dCAZzcLM
vice
Published on May 16, 2013

In part two, we see on-the-ground footage of fighting between the Afghan forces and the Taliban as well as insightful commentary from the documentary's producer, Ben Anderson. There are also exclusive interviews with the US Ambassador and the British Deputy Ambassador to Afghanistan about the prospect of peace in the region.

This Is What Winning Looks Like (Part 3/3)

http://youtu.be/C8rRqRoCUsg
vice
Published on May 17, 2013

In part three, we see that the sad truth is, at the end of the day, we will be leaving behind ill-prepared security forces, which will likely lead to an increase in Taliban attacks, civilian casualties, and, overall, an increasingly dangerous and fragile nation.

Watch parts 1 and 2 here:
http://bit.ly/What-Winning-Looks-Like-1
http://bit.ly/What-Winning-Looks-Like-2

Accompanying article:

This Is What Winning Looks Like
My Afghanistan War Diary

By Ben Anderson | 1 week ago (As of 5/16/2013)

US Specialist Christopher Saenz looks out over the landscape during a patrol outside the village of Musa Qala, Helmand province. (AP Photo/Rodrigo Abd)

I didn’t plan on spending six years covering the war in Afghanistan. I went there in 2007 to make a film about the vicious fighting between undermanned, underequipped British forces and the Taliban in Helmand, Afghanistan’s most violent province. But I became obsessed with what I witnessed there—how different it was from the conflict’s portrayal in the media and in official government statements.

All I had to do was trek out to one of the many tiny, isolated patrol bases that dot the barren, sunbaked landscape and hang out with British infantry troops to see the chaotic reality of the war firsthand: firefights that lasted entire days, suicide bombers who leaped onto unarmored jeeps from behind market stalls, IEDs buried everywhere, and bombs dropped onto Afghans’ homes, sometimes with whole families of innocent civilians inside.

In 2006, when troops were sent into Helmand, British command didn’t think there’d be much fighting at all. The mission was simple: “Facilitate reconstruction and development.” The UK Defense Secretary John Reid even said he hoped the army could complete their mission “without a single shot being fired.”

But with each year that followed, casualties and deaths rose as steadily as the local opium crop. Thousands more British troops were deployed, then tens of thousands of US troops, at the request of General Stanley McChrystal, following a six-month review of the war after President Obama took office. Still, the carnage and confusion continued unabated. Suicide bombings increased sevenfold. Every step you took might reveal yet another IED.

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UPDATE1 : Part 3 video Added - Fri May 17, 2013.

UPDATE2 : Courtesy of JoshArizona; Ben Anderson of Vice.com on BBC Panorama, Feb. 25, 2013.

BBC: Mission Accomplished? Secrets of Helmand
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Mission Accomplished? Is This What Winning Looks Like

http://youtu.be/7E-ybgJS9HE
War Documentaries
Published on Apr 3, 2013

Reporter Ben Anderson joins Allied troops as they prepare to hand over to Afghan forces next year. But he finds the Afghan army and police forces - who are taking over when the British and Americans leave - poorly trained and lacking the resources needed to fight the Taliban. Worse, he uncovers evidence that the police themselves are committing horrendous crimes under the noses of Allied forces.

Predictions in due Time...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zGDisyWkIBM

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The little boy thing, that a tradition?

Is this a long standing habit in this region or is this a newer practice?

Before or after we were raping child prisoners in Bargram/Abu-Garib/Iraq?

Nuremberg found war to be the greatest crime because it inevitably contains all other crimes: theft, muder, rape. I'm interested to know if this rape is the result of war. And what's the Sharya take on this?

Be brave, be brave, the Myan pilot needs no aeroplane.

If you have to say:

"We should not shrink from using these words"

Then you probably should shrink from using those words.

You don't know whether to laugh or cry

I remember early in the conflict a Canadian columnist named Gwynne Dyer wrote that it was essentially a civil war between the Pashtuns and the Northern tribes. Dyer is pretty much blacklisted and there are only a handful of small newspapers that run his columns.

"For the NATO alliance, which has been searching for a new role ever since the collapse of the Soviet Union, the Afghan operation at least helped to justify its enormous budget. For the United States, it never made sense from any point of view. And for Afghanistan, it was merely the continuation of a disaster now more than thirty years old."

http://gwynnedyer.com/2013/afghanistan-the-najibullah-syndrome/

Full Video

Not sure if we're allowed to plug other websites, but the full video has been out on the VICE website.

Lemme look for it, one sec.

http://www.vice.com/read/ben-anderson-is-doing-a-reddit-ama#...

Looks like he's doing an AMA on Reddit as well at 11 AM

President or not, the Revolution is happening and it grows at the local level.

http://www.leadershipinstitute.org/Resources/files/The_Life_...

You should be on the ballot for your local Republican Central Committee.

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Thanks

I can't get it to embed for some reason. I will add your link in the OP.

Jeez.. Depressing

Wow, quite eye-opening. The use of boys as sex objects actually surprised me. If anyone has illusions of one day going back to medieval times, Afghanistan might be your paradise because that's the age they're still in largely. It was midevil times in which we saw boys being used as sex object for men as well. They also seem very uneducated, poor and even BORED - thus the drugs and sex. God that was depressing - thanks for the video, I now somehow feel better about the U.S. lol

The Afghan people have

The Afghan people have perfected the winning strategy against their enemy. That's why they say Afghanistan is the country other countries do to die.

Party on dude.

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+1 thanks for the memories

One of them died about a year ago, right around the time I went to the Republican primary and helped to vote in Evan and several others who were then denied, somehow, what the voting public wanted.

Back then was when was when I started waking up. I'm sure I'm still not fully awake, as the onslaught of scandals are teaching me.

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Correction;The Afghan people

Correction;

The Afghan people have perfected the Art of War winning strategy against their enemy. That's why they say Afghanistan is the country other countries go to die.

They Can't Get All of Us, in Action. Afghanistan!

Part II is out.

Ben Anderson is a fantastic journalist, in my opinion one of the best journalists to cover the Afghanistan War, and VICE is definitely my favorite documentary maker.

Part III will hopefully be out tomorrow.

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Thanks. I embedded it in the

Thanks. I embedded it in the main part.

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