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NEVER call the Cops to 'save' You: NY Cop MURDERS a Hostage; Girl shot Dead, in the Head!

Hofstra student shot in head by cop while being used as human shield during home invasion

Andrea Rebello (r.), here with her twin Jessica in an Instagram photo, was killed by the friendly fire of a police officer during a shootout with home invader Dalton Smith.

But he [the assailant] never got off a shot during the deadly violence early Friday morning inside Rebello's off-campus house in Uniondale, said police.

By KIERAN CROWLEY, KENNETH GARGER and KATHIANNE BONIELLO
Last Updated: 11:13 PM, May 18, 2013
Posted: 3:41 PM, May 18, 2013

The Hofstra University student killed during a home invasion robbery was the victim of friendly fire from a veteran cop who unleashed a barrage of bullets when the armed intruder pointed a gun at him, Nassau County police announced tonight.

Andrea Rebello was accidentally shot in the head while career criminal Dalton Smith had her in a headlock and used her as a human shield while trying to escape out the back door, Det. Lt. John Azzata said.

The unidentified cop fired eight rounds, seven of which struck and killed Smith, and one of which hit Rebello, he said.

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Authorities[SERVANTS]: Hofstra student was killed by police

In this photo copied from the 2010 Sleepy Hollow High School yearbook, high school student Andrea Rubello is shown.(Photo: AP)
Frank Eltman, Associated Press12:56 a.m. EDT May 19, 2013

MINEOLA, New York (AP) — A New York college student being held in a headlock at gunpoint by an intruder was accidentally shot and killed by a police officer who had responded to a report of the home invasion at an off-campus home, police said Saturday.

Andrea Rebello was shot once in the head Friday morning by an officer who opened fire after the masked intruder pointed a gun at the officer while holding the 21-year-old Hofstra University student in a headlock, Nassau County homicide squad Lt. John Azzata said.

In a tense confrontation with the officer, gunman Dalton Smith "menaces our police officer, points his gun at the police officer," Azzata said. The officer opened fire, killing Smith and his hostage.

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Hofstra student killed by police during home invasion
Andrea Rebello, a 21-year-old student at Hofstra University, in Hempstead, N.Y., died Friday when police fired on an intruder who had entered her home. The intruder was also killed by police.

By Frank Eltman, Associated Press / May 19, 2013

Mineola, N.Y. - In what police are describing as a crime of opportunity, a wanted man with a criminal history dating nearly 15 years entered a front door that had been left open at a New York home near Hofstra University.

A short time later, the intruder, Dalton Smith, and a 21-year-old college junior, Andrea Rebello, were both dead. The two were killed early Friday by a Nassau County police officer who fired eight shots at the masked man, hitting him seven times but also accidentally hitting Rebello once in the head, Nassau County homicide squad Lt. John Azzata said Saturday.

Smith was holding Rebello in a headlock and pointing a gun at her head before he turned his gun at the officer, Azzata said, prompting the shooting.

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New Details on Hofstra University Student Friendly Fire Fatality

Posted on May 19, 2013 by Robert Farago

As we reported yesterday (It Should Have Been A DGU) Andrea Rubello died during a police rescue attempt after a home invader had taken her hostage. As we predicted, police have announced that Ms Rubello was killed by so-called friendly fire. “In a tense confrontation with the officer, gunman Dalton Smith menaces our police officer, points his gun at the police officer,” Nassau County homicide squad Lt. John Azzata told usatoday.com. According to Lt. Azzata the responding cop fired eight shots at Smith. Smith was hit seven times and died. Rebello was shot once in the head and died. Apparently . . .

“Smith kept saying, ‘I’m going to kill her,’ and then he pointed the gun at the police officer,” Azzata said. Digging deeper, you’ve got wonder: did the cop have a chance to hold off or back off before the threat to him that led to Ms. Rebello’s death?

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In Another News, running to be the most Incompetently Deadly State-Actor of the Week: Rules for Thee, None for Me!

** In many states, if you or I were to have a negligent or accidental discharge in public, or at our own individual, private homes, we maybe arrested. Oh, and a thousand dollar German-engineered Heckler und Koch HK45 does not 'just go off' because you adjusted your belt, via TTAG:

Maine State Police lieutenant not disciplined after gun went off inside

By Dawn Gagnon, BDN Staff
Posted May 18, 2013, at 9:42 a.m.
Last modified May 18, 2013, at 10:47 a.m.

AUGUSTA, Maine — An investigation by a division of the Maine State Police was unable to determine why a lieutenant’s firearm accidentally discharged during a computer training session.

Lt. Shawn Currie, commander of the state police commercial vehicle enforcement division, was not disciplined after the Feb. 27 incident.

Currie was attending the training at the agency’s former headquarters at 36 Hospital St. when his gun belt reportedly rode up, according to a synopsis of the incident that the Bangor Daily News obtained Friday after submitting a request under the Freedom of Access Act.

All of which prove the following to be re-affirmed and true:

Proof: Cops NOT grown in 'Special' Genetics Lab; NYPD shot 9 out of 14 INNOCENT ByStanders @ EmpireState Bldg Shooting!

INFOGRAPHIC: Real Data on American GunOwners - Yes, Citizens are MUCH safer than Cops w/Guns!




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I posted this already

http://www.dailypaul.com/285941/hofstra-student-was-killed-b...

History does not long entrust the care of freedom to the weak or the timid.
Dwight D. Eisenhower

So you can point your gun at others and live.... but not at cops

It would seem that as long as the gun was pointed at the victim there was no need to fire, but when turned towards and armed officer......

the victim it seems falls under the "collateral damage" heading the gov't and its enforcers, as well as a majority of the public it would seem, feel so comfortable with.

If you can read this thank a teacher. Because it's in English thank a soldier!

"The American Republic will endure until the day Congress discovers that it can bribe the public with the public's money."
- Alexis de Tocqueville

Yea

Your so right about that. What happened to the good old days of negotiation? The criminal pointed the gun but didn't shoot, if they would have had a little talk, maybe the cop could have let the criminal run out the backdoor and leave his hostage (but it seems they'd rather murder than let anybody run).

I'm pretty sure the victims wouldn't mind if the criminal got away...so long as they weren't murdered by the officer. But the officer didn't have the balls to risk his life trying to protect another, yet he'll probably get a celebration and support from his shitty community saying how he did put his life in harm's way. This is some BS that really pisses me off, just think...that's a young, beautiful college girl that DIED because of him.

This cop is a piece of fucking shit and should go shoot himself. He should be charged with murder.

This is a tragedy...

Families lives changed forever. Obviously the officer will feel guilt and probably have to undergo therapy for a LONG time. This does not excuse that its his job to make these judgement calls and ultimately he made the terribly wrong decision to initiate force of arms. Criminals say that garbage all the time... Obviously shouldn't be taken lightly, but to shoot that many round when the hostage is in front of the intruder, no excuse whatsoever.

He should be fired, charged for manslaughter, and pay restitution to victims family. For all we know, he hit her with first shot and had 7 left for him, clear and open, horribly sad

Their motto is "Dont Tread On Me"...

This cop should blow his head off

What a waste... I mean look at them... beautiful twins, now not...

No one would think any less(than they already do) of this scumbag pig if he just ate one of his own bullets... It wont bring the girl back, but at least then real justice would be served. He did take an oath to uphold justice right?

Disclaimer: I take no responsibility for any readers actions as a result of this comment. You are responsible for yourselves.

How about fair trial then we

How about fair trial then we hang him by the balls!

Is a trial really necessary

Is a trial really necessary if the guilty acknowledges their guilt? Even if only to themselves? The honorable thing to do would be to admit it, take responsibility, and dispense justice.

What is sadly ironic is that

What is sadly ironic is that we have all these "Officer Safety" policies from not being allowed to film cops to use of excessive force resulting in innocent deaths. At the same time, if a cop gets killed we have a giant parade for them and everyone comes out waiving banners to praise the fallen hero that supposedly laid down his life for public safety.

More trash collectors get killed every year than cops and their service is arguable much more beneficial for the public but nobody gives two shits when one of them dies in an accident.

We all share this eternally evolving present moment- The past and future only exist as inconsequential mental fabrications.

true that.

time for them to join Maywood, CA: http://www.dailypaul.com/comment/2308809

but here's an old-school cop who 'gets' the utter myth of "officer safety":

http://www.thetacticalwire.com/feature.html?featureID=3593

http://www.dailypaul.com/285968#comment-3081308

Predictions in due Time...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zGDisyWkIBM

"Let it not be said that no one cared, that no one objected once it's realized that our liberties and wealth are in jeopardy." - Dr. Ronald Ernest Paul

Cop magazines should be limited to no more than 7 bullets.

Then this poor girl might still be alive. (assuming of course the 8th round killed her)

What's good for the goose...

ditto

that!

Predictions in due Time...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zGDisyWkIBM

"Let it not be said that no one cared, that no one objected once it's realized that our liberties and wealth are in jeopardy." - Dr. Ronald Ernest Paul

Damn, this story makes me

Damn, this story makes me sick. I understand this cop actually wanted to help the innocent girl, but his negligence cost a 21 year old college student her life. What was he doing running into the house when there was a hostage situation? Shouldn't he have waited for SWAT/FBI to get there and handle the hostage situation? It's too bad the innocent girl died instead of the intruder who has a history of criminal activity.

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I Totally Agree - SICKENING!

Young lady sacrificed so cops can win their fire fight against that thug...

"To Protect and To Serve" So much for the police preventing victims of crime. Better off packing heat and taking care of business ourselves..

So sad..

The perp was killed as well.

He had 7 bullets in him.

He should have waited, but SWAT is no better.

SWAT teams have been known to murder the hostage if they deem it necessary to "get the bad guy."

I believe there was a case in L.A. where they murdered an infant because the child was being used as a sheild and the sniper's order was to "take the guy out" no matter what. His only shot was THROUGH the infant, and he took it.

The murderer (the SWAT officer) was never reprimanded, fired, or prosecuted.

The best bet in this situation most likely was to find a way to get the guy out of the building or the hostage out - alone. That was the only way she was going to live.

indeed: while other factors are at play, but two words that

truly ended the era of "peace officers," and turned them into commissars' praetorian guards: "Officer Safety," well...along with the utter non-existent legal fiction, "Qualified Immunity."

within the profession, there's an active discussion over active shooter response. pre-Columbine, their protocol has always been to wait for SWAT and/or hostage negotiators. but after, they've been trained to kill assailants, not negotiate a peaceful release of hostages. while the protocol shift was particular to Colorado, but other departments and FBI/DoJ protocol changed as well (though truly, only publicly, as Ruby Ridge and Waco exhibited under no uncertain terms, Feds murder, PERIOD. Their 'HRT' (Hostage Rescue Teams, aka. FBI SWAT) has never been about saving lives, but to impose the dominance over the 'peons').

true, typical PD trainings suck, and frankly, MOST cops are not trained properly tactically, nor qualified to truly de-escalate deadly incidents. then again, these skills are more art than science; it takes truly particularly rare type of personalities and individuals (even beyond the police work, among general populace as well), human psychological stimuli/response knowledge, intelligence, and patience to guide their way through highly charged hostage situations.

so, delicately lethal situations are always further aggravated by the common denominator training typical in most PD's.

In reality though, obviously there are exceptions, but the dynamics of real-life combat and critical incidents are such that generally speaking, the longer you wait to engage the assailant, either verbally or tactically, the worse it gets.

so, whomever is first on the scene should engage, though conflicts differ case by case, and the threat level must be adjudicated on the spot by the homeowner or the responding cops. a convicted felon out on parole who barged, armed into a 'female prey's home, is certainly driven to kill, and determined to not go back to jail.

of course, the responding cop should be clearly aware of his own skill levels/limitations, before engaging, as the results can be deadly and irrevocable, as this case clearly shows.

Previous, but apt reply: also check out Chuck Haggard, an old-school cop's interview and statement on the MYTH of "officer safety" and "hierarchy of safety needs."

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The two word-euphemism for legitimizing pussification.

not that the entire notion of a 'police force' isn't already aberrant to begin with, but even IF one were to truly believe in the 'call of duty' and truly joins police work with the most noblest of intentions 'to serve,' if one feels saving one's own ass is more important (not to say coming home to their family alive isn't virtuous...unless you murder an innocent Hofstra student and one half of twins, during the day), why even bother to join any PD, let alone get out of bed in the morning? yeah, rhetorical, but truly though...

well, here's one old school cop, who has his "hierarchy of safety needs" priorities straight:

Single Officer Response in Active Shooter Events:

We as law enforcement officers need to have a clear idea of what the hierarchy of safety needs really is. Officer safety is NOT our first concern, if it were we would either hide out at the police station all day or, better yet, just stay home and not go to work. Police work is not about risk avoidance, it is about risk mitigation while also doing the job we have sworn to do. The hierarchy of needs is, and has always been, that the people we protect come first. We place ourselves in the line of fire to protect the citizens we serve, thus the victims of any crime and the bystanders on scene are the first and second priority of any police response. The safety of the officer is almost always the third place consideration.

Some recent interviews with Chuck Haggard:

http://youtu.be/i8UONBhdoxM

Chuck interviewed by Jeff Bloovman (winner of Disc. Ch.'s One Man Army, and former pupil of James Yeager):

http://youtu.be/FzsQyi3e3g4

http://youtu.be/3ItBiSX5sc0

Unfortunately, it seems 'all the good apples/true peace officers' have either retired in disgust, or simply 'forced' out.

my only solace is that the Fed. Res. trajectory being what it is, there is absolutely no mathematical way of staving off the coming, inevitable currency collapse, followed by a monetary reboot, thereby de facto nullifying any and all 'police force' monetary structure as we know it. though I've always maintained that should the SHTF and TEOTWAWKI truly comes, cops will become the local warlords, and their 'evidence locker' will become their bank vault.

there are only two 'professional' groups who truly know how to commit crimes daily, know how to get away with it, and with network/distribution know how to efficiently run the 'black market': criminals and cops.

the latter, because what one observes daily, and rationalizes daily compromising of morals to 'catch them, by committing equal crimes,' they inevitably become what they study, worse, what they emulate (all infiltrations and undercover work are fundamentally based on the delusional premise of "gotta commit crimes to catch criminals," it'd be the exception, not the rule, if they don't become what they purportedly abhor the most, IMO).

Now, I do not believe the officer should be charged in the death as far as manslaughter charges. Otherwise it sets a bad precendece. However, the officer should be relieved of duty, loss of benefits and pension and sent packing. You simply cannot make such a large mistake and still be a cop.

well... yes and no: yes, he should lose his job. but no, he really should, truly be arrested on negligent homicide charges, and serve at minimum 2yrs in jail.

though the sentence is always usually longer, the actual average time served can range from 6months to 10yrs, depending, but from what I recall they do hover between 1~2yrs.

but, seeing as how the actual, average time served for MURDER is EIGHT YEARS in America? it's par for the course.

Kinda puts into perspective the utterly fraudulent nature of 'our' 'justice' system, especially when a poor Illinois man is facing 75yrs in prison for merely peacefully filming copthugs from afar, eh?)

no matter how they rationalize, even under the current, utterly fraudulent 'judicial' paradigm, at the least, it is clearly manslaughter, depending on jurisdiction, "negligent homicide." to be fair, it is not 1st or 2nd degree murder, technically speaking as no mens rea was involved (as far as publicly available report goes), though that fraudulent legal distinction would be of no comfort to the innocent, murdered girl's surviving family members...

Predictions in due Time...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zGDisyWkIBM

"Let it not be said that no one cared, that no one objected once it's realized that our liberties and wealth are in jeopardy." - Dr. Ronald Ernest Paul

Isn't this a tragic mistake?

Isn't this a tragic mistake? I'm rather critical of corrupt cops but this just seems like a tragedy.

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Not really

It is not a "mistake", it is a result of conditioning and training in the new police world. Notice the language used my his superiors, the criminal was "menacing" at a police officer. And, he is clearly saying that "menacing" a police officer is a worse offense than kidnapping a girl and using her as a shield.

What about running? Finding cover? No, no one is allowed to "menace" a police officer - doing that justifies anything the police officer does these days. And the people are conditioned as well, like after 9/11 when people in Iowa were wearing NYPD caps. It's part of the police state system.

"In the beginning of a change the patriot is a scarce man, and brave, and hated and scorned. When his cause succeeds, the timid join him, for then it costs nothing to be a patriot."--Mark Twain

"mistake?" - the poor girl is DEAD - that's not a "mistake"

He should be punished accordingly.

At the least, he should be fired, no severance.

Better yet, he should be prosecuted civily to pay restitution to her family for being "responsible" for her death.

Even better still, he should be allowed no where near another police job ever again.

Finally, since this is NY, I'd say commisurate with their attitudes, he should be debarred the use of arms for the rest of his life. (I don't really believe that, but they should at least be consistent with their policies and laws)

His supervisor and whomever is in charge of training should be fired on the same grounds.

Then mandatory reform of the training procedures and mandatory retraining for all officers should be implemented with all due haste.

Anyone disagreeing in the slightest should be fired immediately.

Unfortunately, some mistakes are just to big to be

called "mistakes".
I think he panicked - not out on a hunt or overzealous - I think he panicked plain and simple. But unfortunately, when you are paid not to panick and are trained not to panick - there has to be consequences.

At the very least - clearly not fit for duty. Or to own a gun.

The Cop Fired EIGHT Times!

That's NOT a "mistake". That's reckless disregard for anyone's safety but his own.

It is panic

It is why the m16 was changed from fully automatic to semi automatic - people tend to panic when a gun is pointed at them.

Not excusing the cop - but it could very well be a mistake - not a typical thug cop. I at least will give him that benefit of the doubt. He may have been an upstanding cop - until that day.

Until someone has pointed a gun at you - you just dont know how you will react.

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BS!

I'm calling you on it.

its 'cos I owe ya, my young friend...
Rockin' the FREE world in Tennessee since 1957!
9/11 Truth.

LOL- What are you calling me on???

You make no sense. I merely stated I was willing to give the benefit of the doubt that he panicked.

If you know more about this officer that would make us believe otherwise I am all ears.

ummmm.....

Whether he panicked or not, he's still a worthless piece of shit that did the wrong thing and killed that girl. Not saying I wouldn't freak out if somebody pointed a gun at me, but I'm not such a selfish person that I'd murder all bystanders with no regard just to prevent a possibility of being shot.....I'd probably rather jump for cover....but when do you see cops do that? Are they even trained for that or just trained to kill?

I think you guys need to come out of the black white

paradigm.
No - if he was a good cop up till that day and made a horrible mistake, then he is not a worthless pos.
I am just choosing NOT to put him in the category of cops that kick girls in the head when they are sitting in handcuffs on the curb.

I tend to judge people by their actions, not by the group they belong to or work for. But hey -I realize that is becoming less popular on here everyday - despite being a libertarian based discussion board.

I get it - all cops are thugs, all jews are zionist pigs, all bankers are devil spawn, all "name group" are pieces of shit except your group.

Easy enough.

for people that cry out at the miscarriage of justice displayed - you sure do like carrying out your own miscarriage.

It does seem reckless to

It does seem reckless to shoot eight times at a suspect who is holding a hostage.

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tragic to us,

a paper work fill-out, to them.

calling an innocent soul's homicide as a "tragic mistake" would be of no solace to her surviving twin/rest of family members, or if she were one of your own/sister/daughter/wife/girlfriend/loved ones, etc.

you mean, like, 'Oops, sorry, we killed your beautiful daughter by blowing up her head with our JHP, like a watermelon. Now, we'll be on our way now. Oh, by the way, I get to keep my job; even if you sue, I won't go to jail. And, even if you 'win,' you'll be the one actually paying for your own judgment/settlement with your tax dollars. And, guess what? I get to do this, over and over, and over, and over, and over, and over, again! Thanks, chump!'

just waiting on karma to catch up, is getting more tiresome by the day...

Predictions in due Time...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zGDisyWkIBM

"Let it not be said that no one cared, that no one objected once it's realized that our liberties and wealth are in jeopardy." - Dr. Ronald Ernest Paul

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This is getting out of hand, check out this story

Officer causes collision and charges are only brought against the driver of the vehicle he hit!

Raleigh police officer's 'improper right turn' causes traffic accident

From staff reports RALEIGH — A police officer in an unmarked car made an 'improper right turn' in front of an SUV, causing an accident on North Raleigh Boulevard on Saturday evening, according to a police accident report.

But so far, only the other driver, Josefina Hernandez Herrera, 40, of Raleigh, has been charged – with driving without a license and with riding with a child who was not in a 'weight appropriate child passenger restraint system,' according to the report.

Officer Isaac Perez Jr. was traveling southbound on North Raleigh Boulevard near Milburnie Road shortly after 6 p.m. Saturday when he turned in front of the SUV, which was going in the same direction.

The SUV hit the police car broadside and pushed it into a utility pole at the corner of Milburnie and North Raleigh Boulevard. Perez, 48, was injured, while none of the seven people in the SUV was hurt, according to the accident report.

Read more here: http://www.newsobserver.com/2013/05/19/2903571/raleigh-polic...