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Elio Motors: 84 mpg, Top Speed of 100 mph and Costs $6800 - Made In USA

This got me excited! Hope it doesn't get squashed by Big-Oil.


http://youtu.be/w-SawjhfwQk

http://www.eliomotors.com/my-strengths/



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Can you picture what this car would look like gettin T-Boned in an intersection? Definitely would not take it on a freeway either.

Not Impressed...

This is what I want. A 74 mpg sedan that looks good...a real car! Why won't our government allow us to have one??????

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SEAT_Toledo

http://www.seat.co.uk/content/uk/brand/en/models/toledo/disc...

....or for $62000

...get a t-rex. Rrrrrrrawrrr.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=4zrhK...

The night is far spent, the day is at hand.
And those who have not heard shall understand.

Five Months Ago

Five months ago they only had about If I remember right about 7000 reserve. My brother and I seen the car in Roseville,Calif. I know six people that reserve there spot.

The On-Line A-Z of 3 Wheelers.

There is a fairly large community of three wheeler aficionados in the UK. Here is a website that is devoted to all things with three wheels:

http://www.3wheelers.com

"The aim of this web site is to build an online catalogue of all 3 wheeled vehicles manufactured from the invention of Cugnot’s first steam powered 3-wheeler in 1769 to present day. If you have a 3-wheeled vehicle that is not listed in any of these pages please let me know and I will add it. I hope that you enjoy your visit."

It includes an interview with Elio Motors.

"Jesus answered them: 'Truly, truly, I say to you, everyone who commits sin is a slave to sin. The slave does not remain in the house forever; the son remains forever. So if the Son sets you free, you will be free indeed.'" (John 8:34-36)

or...

quit being a baby and buy a real motorcycle... and one that is NOT covered in puke green plastic. ;)

I use Blue Wave, but don't expect one of THEIR silly taglines.

Sure. Let me know what "real"

Sure. Let me know what "real" motorcycle gets 84 mpg, has a 5 star safety rating, can be used in the snow and has AC. I love bikes but they cannot be compared to this thing. This is a real car. I sat in one and was quite impressed. Way bigger then it looks and the back seat very roomy.

as someone who commutes 75 miles per day

i'd definately consider it. currently drive a kia rio getting about 28mpg, but this would cut my fuel costs by 2/3.

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Alrighty thennn....

Where do you put the plywood and 2x4's? Lol. Or even the wife and kids for that matter...

If you grocery shop for the week, it looks like you better be buying MRE's or maybe 10 cans of Beanie Weenies if you want to take it home with you.

Unless they thought of a shopping cart hitch. Lol

you would

obviously still have a bigger vehicle for the family, but for the small price tag and mpg savings, it'd be worth it if you work more than 25 miles from home just to get to work and back each day.

The specs

look great. But this thing looks terrible, like a blind man designed it. That's why I doubt it will be successful. Cars are a lifestyle product, people love ecological cars, but they do not want to be ridiculed. That's a human weakness, inner values should outweigh everything, but in reality they won't.

Napolitano: "We need Ron Paul now!"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3k3JNRTVI0Q

There's only one problemo

The color.
Look at what real owners of the platform vehicle are saying...
http://www.motorcycle.com/specs/can-am.html
Into off-roading?
http://can-am.brp.com/

http://youtu.be/cKXUwJfpewg

Hope it doesn't get squashed by big oil?

The car of the year in 1911 was electric and it got 100 miles. lol (efficiency is the issue, electricity is not free) Number two 98% of the worlds oil is owned by foriegn governments ....... So do you mean you hope governments don't squash it ?

If I were a betting man, I would put my money on Volvo.

Volvo's energized carbon fiber technology. http://www.gizmag.com/volvo-battery-infused-structural-compo...

I predict carbon fiber will eventually 3D printed, as well as motor, wiring harnesses, etc. thanks to 3D metal printing. http://www.gizmag.com/esa-amaze-project-3d-printer-iss/29447...

Electrical hazards will likely be minimized by insulation between the charged surfaces and exterior surfaces. Hemp plastic is a perfect choice, due to its incredible strength, durability, high insulation rating and, best of all, 3D print-ability. http://hempnayer.blogspot.com/2013/04/hemp-and-3d-printing.html

Hemp can also be dyed prior to print injection, eliminating costly and environmentally hazardous painting. Vehicle weight reduction will be phenomenal, as well effective MPG. Such a vehicle could be rapidly charged wirelessly. Such a vehicle could, theoretically, travel unlimited distances, as long as radiant energy recharging is available.

Tesla demonstrated radiant energy transmission in the 1930. http://www.tfcbooks.com/teslafaq/q&a_016.htm
South Korea and other nations are using it to charge buses.
http://www.wired.com/autopia/2013/08/induction-charged-buses/

Get the banksters and the military-industrial complex out of the way and we could see such a passenger vehicle by the end of this decade.

All the disadvantages of a motorcycle, plus...

...all the disadvantages of an automobile.

"Timid men prefer the calm of despotism to the tempestuous sea of liberty" TJ

I love this vehicle!!!

I love this vehicle !!! With a little engineering and a hydrogen on demand system you could realistically push the mpg up to a little over 100 mpg.

RickStone

I love these optimists!!!

With a little bamboozling and a Jaegermeister on demand system you could realistically con the right brained in the 100's of millions!

Jus keedin'*

*said the A.S.E certified Master Machinist, certified Master Mechanic, certified truck technician, certified alternate fuels technician, graduated #1 in the engine design class....

"Timid men prefer the calm of despotism to the tempestuous sea of liberty" TJ

Yes I am an optimists !

All great inventions were discovered by optimists ! All great inventors had train loads of mocking naysayers. If it were up to the mocking naysayers we would still be living in caves and hunting with sticks. The naysayers will say "you can't do that" the optimist will say "move aside, I am starting on my second version." I have learned to filter out educated idiots that only know what they have been told and can not go beyond their programing.

50 years ago if you were alive and were to told by an inventor that he was going invent a telephone that was small enough to fit in your pocket and would work without wires, the naysayers would mock him and say "give up, that will never happen" , the optimist would say " I can't wait, hurry up and get started so I can have one". Would you have your cell phone today if the inventors listened to the mocking naysayers? Mocking naysayers do more harm to mankind than if they had said nothing and gone about their business.
Watch this and maybe it will plant a seed of optimism in your soul. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OPR3GlpQQJA
My personal motto is "In my world there is no box" so I never have to worry about thinking outside of the box.
I am in the process of building a tube cell hydrogen generator for my truck. I will let you know how much money I save on gas.
I also have several original designs for solar air heaters that I am experimenting with. I plan on marketing the best one. Maybe you would like to purchase one of my inventions one day and save on your power bill. My optimism has driven me to be successful many times after naysayers have mocked me.

RickStone

Good for you Rick.

I was alive 50 years ago, thank you. Back in the day of the Walkie-talkie. Your comment about what naysayers would say is a silly straw man argument. In those 50+ years I've run into many folks with wide eyes and no physics or engineering experience. Folks that swear by the Pogue carb, magnetic fuel filters and cars that run off bong water, fresh air, New Age crystals and those wacky on-board hydrogen generators.

This vehicle is one of a very long line of 3 wheeled vehicles that fail over and over again in the American marketplace because:

they have the deathtrap qualities of a motorcycle, without the agility.

They have all the stability of a 3 legged milking stool, without the capacity to haul a fat friend or a weeks worth of groceries.

They have terrifying braking characteristics without the bugs-in-your-teeth exhiliration. Think about it. You hit the brakes hard and your right front tire slides while encountering some loose gravel from the shoulder, causing you to be yanked hard across the centerline into opposing traffic.

My personal favorite is you will have to wear a helmet in several states.

P.S. You state that your personal motto is "In my world there is no box". You don't work at UPS by any chance, do you? ;)

"Timid men prefer the calm of despotism to the tempestuous sea of liberty" TJ

You are right...

You are right about those wacky on board hydrogen generators like this.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9JTEUpRdKFY ,that Genpax automobile must be a hoax. Maybe this is another one of those hoaxes,

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zZ2QciCN5Ks that Stanley Meyer guy was a real charlatan and the Pentagon people that were interested in his invention they must been an easy mark to con.

Or maybe that wako named Paul Pantone and his geet fuel processor, that guy was a real scam artist. Just look at this presentation and his amateur fake scientific explanation.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lbB7z9gQ_yQ

Steve Ryan and his motorcycle that ran on water was just another one of those scammers with a hidden gas tank trying to get your money.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lbB7z9gQ_yQ

It is a shame we have too many naysayers that are government sponsored suppressors of alternative energy inventions. The government and big oil have a lot to lose if we could use our garden hose as a source for fuel for our cars. How could they finance their corruption without tying us to gasoline? They are fighting tooth and nail to maintain their power and have fought hard against alternative fuels that they can not regulate or tax.

If you are interested in a 3 wheel vehicle with a little more pep and tons of agility and stability at a higher price, check out this T Rex.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iluIZqOFYCA

This would be my first choice if I had the money, bugs in my teeth and all.

And yes, many states have laws that have not keep up with new vehicle designs. But that is not a reason to give up and submit to the status quo vehicle designs. Any law can be changed, nothing is set in stone.

RickStone

I like the T Rex too. I'll be the Debbie Downer though.

It would be perfect if I had an extra $85,000 and lived on Maui. It's noisy, and it will still have atrocious braking characteristics if you are on different surfaces, like asphalt under the left front tire and the other two on gravel. I promise you, these three wheel cars will make an instant hard left turn into oncoming traffic.

I agree, "any law can be changed, nothing is set in stone".

However, I don't need to tell you, the nature of laws is for them to get bigger and more restrictive.

In my opinion, the only vehicles out there with automotive promise are powered by cng and electricity.

I keep wondering why someone doesn't make a car with exchangeable batteries. You pull into a lane like you do in a car wash and when the light turns red, you put the car in PARK and let the battery on the bottom of the car be changed. Drive away. It shouldn't take more than 5 minutes.

If you swipe the idea I want 10% of the profit.

"Timid men prefer the calm of despotism to the tempestuous sea of liberty" TJ

If the Elio goes well...

Then other companies could see that there is a market for this type of vehicle, and start competing.

Look at the "Smart Car..." There have been competitor models since it was released.

to all gearheads here:

have you guys been able to find out more details on its specs?

they say they can do all this, including A/C, airbags, all made in US...for $6800 MSRP?

WOW.

I'd love to see them succeed!

That said, even assuming some parts will be made elsewhere, whenever a manufacturer says "made/sourced in N. America," that's just an industry euphemism for 'mainly made in Canada or Mexico.' So more than likely, they'll be "Assembled in US," no?

Any guesses as to the engine?

Polaris (who just bought Indian Motorcycle!!!) is the only non-Harley major US motorcycle engine manufacturer.

Then, there's Canada's Bombardier.

Or, Bombardier/Austrian Rotax?

Or, some VW-engine variant made in their Mexican plant?

Or Elio's own?

Bombardier/Rotax engines are pretty costly...so a 3-banger that produces 70hp @crank and does 84mpg?

Who currently makes a reputable 3cylinder engine other than Triumph and Benelli, whose engines alone probably costs as much as Elio's $6800 (assuming they're not made in their Chinese QianJiang parent factory)?

Seeing as how they haven't released the motor mfr. info at the FAQ page, I'm left speculating: I'm assuming they're most likely using a motorcycle engine, considering power-to-weight ratio.

Predictions in due Time...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zGDisyWkIBM

"Let it not be said that no one cared, that no one objected once it's realized that our liberties and wealth are in jeopardy." - Dr. Ronald Ernest Paul

The Engine

Around 4:15 in this video their rep. says it will be a 1L 3 cylinder engineered by IAV, and that the one in their prototype is from a Geo Metro.

http://youtu.be/BpSn00HlM30

thanks

for the vid!

y'all are such resourceful bunch.o)

well, if this is who IAV is, it literally looks like they worked with EVERY engine maker on Earth!

I still can't believe they can sell a 3cyl. engine that produces that much HP, with A/C and airbags for $6800 MSRP??

just how? and wow!

I'd love to see how they were able to source all that.

Wonder how much they'll maker per car?

These are old numbers: but, as I understand it, on average, most domestic vehicles in a typical American family's price range ($25,000~45,000) they really only make about $500 in profit per vehicle. By comparison, BMW's 3-series supposedly makes about $5000 profit, per vehicle. Rest are all made on aftermarket and replacement parts. But car companies' real bread and butter has ALWAYS been their credit/car loan divisions, like Ford Credit and GMAC.

so, I'd love to see how Elio was able to arrive at this amazing package.

can't wait.

Predictions in due Time...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zGDisyWkIBM

"Let it not be said that no one cared, that no one objected once it's realized that our liberties and wealth are in jeopardy." - Dr. Ronald Ernest Paul

The engine is supposed to be

The engine is supposed to be an automotive one. Not motorcycle. My guess is a form of the new Ford ecoboost 1.0 liter 3 cylinder being offered in european fiestas. That or a form of Suzuki`s 3 cylinder that was found in geo metros. Those were made in Fremont Calif I believe. I like the idea a lot. Can`t wait to drive one...

thanks

for the info.

hope it at least FEELS 'motorcycle-peppy,' regardless of its 0-60mph in 9sec, or not.

yup. can't wait to check it out, either.

Predictions in due Time...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zGDisyWkIBM

"Let it not be said that no one cared, that no one objected once it's realized that our liberties and wealth are in jeopardy." - Dr. Ronald Ernest Paul

This thing is a whole lot more interesting than I first thought

http://www.empowernetwork.com/amadomanalo/blog/elio-motors-t...

In the link at the bottom of the page there is an interview with Mr Eilo, the CEO who developed this. If the car companies or the regulators don't squash it, IMHO this will be a huge success.

The Elio looks much like the

The Elio looks much like the 2003 Corbin Merlin that I lost $1000 deposit on. My recommendation would be to wait until they have production vehicles for sale before putting up any money. The web site is full of pretty pictures, but scant on details about engine and drive-train. Buyer beware.