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The new XBOX console will come with a required-for-operation 1080p camera with IR tracking and microphone *UPDATE 2*


Germany's Federal Data Protection Commissioner Peter Schaar has basically called the device surveillance equipment.


**UPDATE 2**

Microsoft's Chinese Skype client uses a list of keywords to save information on conversations that may be suspected as anti-government. They absolutely are capable of doing the very same thing here, and I fully expect them to.


This couldn't possibly be more Orwellian. For those of you who aren't up on video gaming, Microsoft's new game console that's set to release this holiday season was revealed yesterday. Called the "XBOX One", it promises to deliver better graphics, better social networking and better media interactivity. It's also going to endanger our privacy like never before.

The current Microsoft game console, the XBOX 360, has an optional peripheral called the Kinect. Its internal 640x480 camera and microphone allows it to track movement for use with motion gaming and lets you operate aspects of games and media playback with voice commands. It can also be turned off, unplugged, not even used.

The XBOX One comes with an upgraded version. It too has a microphone and a camera, only this one is full 1080p. It can also track infrared with sensitivity so high, it's able to get a good guess on your heartrate by how flush your face is.

The article at the botton says that the camera can be disabled. I can disable the GPS in my cell phone, that doesn't stop someone else from enabling it, or even turning my phone on to track me. The cell companies have this capability. The XBOX One requires that the Kinect be connected to operate.

The system falls short of requiring it always be online, but the level of connectivity they're aiming for practically requires that it does.

Under the guise of fun, we're being peddled a literal window into our living rooms. The government already has no problem accessing our communications without warrant or probable cause, this device will absolutely be no different. People will be arrested for saying things within their own walls, investigated for badmouthing the government on their own couches.

On to the article.

Some things you take for granted, like the fact that in Star Trek, there’s a computer that’s always listening, always observing, always standing by cataloging data. Who owns that data? Where’s it stored? Who determines how it’s used? Who knows. The shows chose to slide by those questions and focus on others. The holodeck was creepy because, whoops, maybe you’d get trapped, or addicted, or its fictional denizens might inexplicably come to life, not because the computer was collating and archiving everything you did, whether hiking a simulation of the Appalachian trail or indulging some crazy erotic fantasy.

Microsoft’s Xbox One won’t surround you with holographic fir trees, azaleas and mountain laurels, nor, as far as I know, will it dish out interactive porn. But it is going to be listening — and capturing data, and transmitting that data back to Microsoft — in ways no device in your household has ever listened to or observed you before.

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Just don't buy one.

Valve is putting out their own SteamBox anyway.

My Truth About XBox; a tide that got high enough to drown reason

It is the first tech comprised of a large enough customer base for theo-skitzos to finally attempt behavioral psych experiments they have been waiting for: The Slave will master his own sensibilities so that once and for all only one theogeny can measure the downfall of neuropathways for reason

A true flower can not blossom without sunlight and a true man can not live without love.

I have the Xbox One

and I love it. It's only in my room so any creepy spying won't reveal much about myself, ha. I think the stories video games tell are interesting and I'm not brainwashed, nor is my brain "mush". I just have it for fun. And it's very fun (Assassin's Creed: Black Flag is one of the best games I've ever played)

Plus, if they choose to spy on me, I hope the Austrian Econ books and Libertarian philosophy books on my back wall really piss them off. ;)

In all honesty, I'm not too worried. I think I'll be ok. It's not the end of the world.

How much does this thing cost?

$400? You COULD have spent that money on a nice pistol. Leave your friggin' bedroom and go to the range to learn something valuable rather than wasting your time away in a fantasy-world. Spend your brainpower on how to improve your life, your surroundings, your chances of survival...the sh*tstorm is coming and you're wasting your time playing some trivial game that means exactly zip, not preparing yourself. Time is short, the meter is running. Just my opinion...
About my perspective, I don't game...have never even tried it...just not really interested. I don't have a smart phone. I don't want one. I want my analog Motorola Brick back! I grew up when kids actually played outside. I have relatives that are just like the 'Big Bang' characters...if the internet goes down or the electricity goes off, they'd have NO IDEA what to do!! LOL

Silence isn't always golden....sometimes it's yellow.

"The liberties of a people never were, nor ever will be, secure, when the transactions of their rulers may be concealed from them." - Patrick Henry

And the massess will fight to be the first to get it

But really this is just more signs of the times.

We are now bombarded will constant advertising for home security that states the following ability:
1. Watch cameras from smart phone(which means - the internet company can watch too)
2. Turn off lights - from smart phone
3. Lock and unlock doors -from smart phone
4. Open garage door - from smart phone

Just a few of the highlights in the commercials.

My Hyundai Sonata has blue link which can:
Start car from smart phone
Unlock car from smart phone
Locate car on smart phone

The service company can:
Disable the car
Slow the car down
Lock doors
Locate Car
and who knows what else.

Needless to say I did not sign up for the service.

People are stupid, plain and simple.

And they are begging for more.

That being said - everyone lay off CoD. It is the only game I play - on an xbox 360 (gamer tag RonPaulx2012 if anyone has run into me). Don't play much now since I am working too much though.
It did not give me brain mush - quite the opposite - it keeps you sharp - any brain activity is exercise for the brain.

dont forget to mention the

dont forget to mention the always on internet connection they tried to implement for drm purposes, until massive opposition........funny how all these things are being built to be so EASILLY "misused", mandatory constant internet connection:hhhhoooooo, so close

Twats:government, corporate and media

It really is that creepy

Try this...

Turn your Xbox 360 completely off. Walk into the room and say xbox on. It will log into your account.

Now turn the Xbox completely Off. Have your kid walk in and say xbox on. It will log into their account.

The camera is really more like 3d radar. It is really impressive but it truly is always on.


creepy? yes. New? No. I am willing to bet that there may be a camera staring at your face right now and has been for several years.

Let's not get paranoid.

it's only streamlining technology that government can control in which biological measurment tools scan your endogeny to theologicalize your method of life for biomimicry purposes... jeesh *sarcasm intended* :)

A true flower can not blossom without sunlight and a true man can not live without love.

Creepy. I, for one, am not

I, for one, am not even remotely interested in purchasing this POS :D

BUMP again for the Updates!!!

This should see the front page! How many young people will have this tech in their homes listening and watching them and cataloguing that information on corporate servers? Millions!

As a gamer, I find it a breach of trust that I cannot unplug a monitoring device from the console because it will not work without it. A Lawsuit should materialize from this.

Xbox One? More like Xbox 1984!

"We are not human beings having a spiritual experience; we are spiritual beings having a human experience"—Pierre Teilhard de Chardin

Big Brother

"I, __________, do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic."

There is no duration defined in the Oath

How Kinect works - night vision

see it under night vision:

Chris Indeedski!

Daily Paul cured my abibliophobia.

After a certain age it is

After a certain age it is difficult to enjoy videogames so much. I haven't played a game recently which had the magic of Terra, hypnotized into a war machine by the emperor in Final Fantasy 6, the time travel adventures of Chrono Trigger....the journeys between the dream world and real world of Dragon Quest, the pet monsters of Lufia...

Storytelling is becoming a lost art in videogames as emphasis on graphics increases.

The last GREAT game that I played was probably Legacy of Kain: Soul Reaver...there is talk of a reboot to the series and that MAY compel me to but the Xbox one.

Privacy...well to be honest they will have terms of agreement and I don't have anything to hide so I don't mind too much.

I can also see why Microsoft would want to collect as much information about gamer habits as possible so I see it as a free market solution. If you don't like it, don't buy it. Simple as.

+1 for Chrono Trigger

I made a hardtype hack of that years ago. Used to love remaking/updating SNES games, to me games are funner to make than to play these days. I don't like modern JRPGs though; too linear *glares at Final Fantasy 13*.

But yeah, once you hit a certain point in your life, it just becomes a temporary time-filler more than anything else. The last games that pulled me in like that were Fallout: New Vegas and Civilization 4.

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Loved the RPGs of SNES,

Loved the RPGs of SNES, FFIII, Legend of Zelda - A link to the Past, and Secret of Mana!

The JRPG genre isn't what it used to be, I completely agree

But even nowadays there's the occasional gem. If you haven't played it yet, you should give Xenoblade a try.

And the Xenosaga trilogy

If you're looking for storytelling godsfavson, there is no better game IMO.

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Thanks, I'll check it out

Thanks, I'll check it out =)

My suggestion for you: Wrath of the White Witch. Not a typical JRPG but contains some nice animation and storytelling.

If you played SNES I'm sure you must have liked Secret of Mana, Secret of Evermore. SquareSoft was churning out hits like nothing else.

First person shooter just give me a headache, lol, and sports games...I really prefer my sports on TV or actually playing them.

Bioshock 1 & 2 were nice experiences. Even though they promoted a weird outcome of free market capitalism.

Think I'll stay in the Dark Ages with my Atari 2600,

IntelliVision II (A.D.& D. Treasure of Tarmin is still dope!), and our ol' IBM P.C., Jr. with Wizardy and Ultima III on it....


(I'm not even joking. My older bro and I discovered that IntelliVision Dreadnaught Factor is a great drinking game! Shit.... so is Atari River Raid. All the rest of 'em, for that matter....)


What would the Founders do?

Plus one for the River Raid

I have a working 2600 in my basement.
Thanks to Ebay and after market - you can even get replacement controllers - which is the biggest problem with them.

Nothing beats the awesome sound effect in Pit Fall when you jump on a rope.

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I think I'm gonna stick to my HP-28S

I think I'm gonna stick to my HP-28S


"Cyril" pronounced "see real". I code stuff.


"To study and not think is a waste. To think and not study is dangerous." -- Confucius



What would the Founders do?

Couldn't resist.

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"We are not human beings having a spiritual experience; we are spiritual beings having a human experience"—Pierre Teilhard de Chardin

Beat me to it :)

I was just reading about this "Always Listening" feature. So not only is it looking and scanning your home interior, it's also got a microphone that's always on and listening to every word you say in your home.

So, this "game console" can get a 3D scan of anyone in its sights, recording their posture and movement characteristics, it can listen and record your voice patterns and anyone else in the room along with you.

I actually read that it WILL require an internet connection once per day. Not sure what the user consequence is for not having that connection, which could potentially force the user to keep it always connected to avoid some sort of hassle.

They make you think they'll implant you with tracking chips, while we ARE walking around with them in our phones. They make you think that the surveillance state will be watching your every move, while they sell you "gaming consoles" that WILL do far more.

Let's not freak out folks. Let's take this as a learning opportunity and further educate ourselves and those close to us.

"We are not human beings having a spiritual experience; we are spiritual beings having a human experience"—Pierre Teilhard de Chardin

Why do you think

Why do you think Cloud Storage and gaming was invented..... So you won't really own anything program related, just a big disk with a key code.........soon they'll just sell you the key code and require that you be online to play and to store any computational data created using Cloud based programs.
And they will stop selling programs retail, just the keys.

I don't Cloud, and I don't want them in my living room.

Some things are worth giving up to stay free, well at least to me they are.

God Bless

Drew, by the very grace of GOD through the blood of Christ Jesus.
"there shall come after us men whom shall garner great wealth using our system, and having done so shall seek to slam the door of prosperity behind them." George Washington

No, EA just tried this with

No, EA just tried this with Simcity and it fell flat. Being required to be online at all times to play something is never going to work(for all programs, especially those that are single person) until internet is as easy to get as power is to your home.

To climb the mountain, you must believe you can.

Never say never

You do realize there is a HUGE push to make sure every house has internet connectivity right?

And people said paying for cable when you get TV for free would never work either.

You do realize you just

You do realize you just replied to my months old comment and that I said when internet was as easy to get as power to your home. Obviously if they are trying to put it in every home, it will be as easy to get as power.

To climb the mountain, you must believe you can.


This deserves front page.