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Arizona Sheriff Joe Arpaio Racially Profiled Latinos, Federal Judge Rules (BC Investigation heating up behind the scenes)

    PHOENIX, May 24 (Reuters) - A federal judge on Friday found hardline Arizona lawman Joe Arpaio had violated the constitutional rights of Latino drivers in his crackdown on illegal immigration, and ordered him to stop using race as a factor in law enforcement decisions.

    The ruling against the Maricopa County sheriff came in response to a class-action lawsuit brought by Hispanic drivers that tested whether police can target illegal immigrants without racially profiling Hispanic citizens and legal residents.

    U.S. District Court Judge Murray Snow ruled that the sheriff's policies violated the drivers' constitutional rights and ordered his office to cease using race or ancestry as a grounds to stop, detain or hold occupants of vehicles - some of them in crime sweeps dubbed "saturation patrols."

Read more here:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/05/24/arpaio-racial-profi...

Timed perfectly since the B.C. Investigation is mere weeks away from major developments. Interview with Lead "Cold Case Posse" Investigator, Lt. Mike Zullo | May 23, 2013:


http://youtu.be/hnKZU-nJ-sw




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BC >>>>>>>

its a dead issue.. I have not seen any major developments . its all a false agenda.. I just think its a waste of any persons interest .. I hate to admit my own fascination with the jive around this thing ..but ..

Allow me to explain one small thing about profiling in AZ.

You can go to Phoenix today, you can go to the southern half of this state and you can meet brown people that speak with a Mexican accent and THEY ARE THIRD AND 5TH GENERATION AMERICANS.

OK THAT IS AS LONG AS ARIZONA HAS BEEN PART OF THE UNION.

Curiously, many of these post-3-Gs as we are sometimes called DON'T EVEN SPEAK SPANISH. OR MEXICAN. Maybe bits and pieces but not la lengua, they don't speak Spanish, THEY SPEAK ENGLISH. It's their native language in much the same way yours is. It's an accent, it's a culture and it's a lifestyle.

And if you don't like it, well I certainly wouldn't recommend you move to or visit Southern Arizona. Because Southern Arizona is even more of a mix of native, Latin European and Anglo Saxon Europeans like most of you.

Now if you like to be surrounded by very white and light people, Northern Arizona might suit you better but you will still be bothered by the presence of persons who might LOOK JUST LIKE MEXICANS or Latin Americans to you but if you listen closely you might notice that they are speaking languages like Dineh, Hopi, Apache, Yavapai, Huallopai or Havasupai.

Now if Sheriff Joe and his boys came up here and started profiling there's a lot more of us than there is of them up here.

But that just gets us started. Jailing journalists, theft of evidence, illegal searches and seizures beyond count, INCARCERTATING CITIZENS PRETRIAL IN NEOLITHIC CONDITIONS IN HIS TENT CITY WHICH IS RUN BY DRUGS AND GANGS....

Guys, defend him and you just took a side. Bigtime. Think carefully before you take this one because there's a lot of skin in this game. Of all colors.

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Hey hiya howdy

Arizona here, Sheriff Joe is no friend to freedom, there's no doubt he and his crew not only profile but use it as leverage for their various deals. We got a laundry list of his constitutional abuses.

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Glad to see I have my usual unexplained negs. But you will hear more voices from Arizona than mine. Punks who uphold Sheriff "Nicklebag Joe" are respected not in traditional law enforcement or true conservatives here.

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Perhaps they should have a

Perhaps they should have a computer program to advise for the vehicle stop after entering some criteria like entering the license plate number, the car is speeding, the car was in an accident, the car just ran a red light. If the computer program gives a positive response to stop the vehicle and check the occupants valid immigration status, this takes the human out of the profiling aspect of the equation as computers are not capable of profiling. Would this be acceptable?

deacon's picture

maybe they shouldn't be giving

illegals driver licenses,then there const rights won't be
violated....what??? an illegal has rights,but we as a nation don't?
deacon

setting your expectations to high,can cause depression

If you believe this happened because Arpaio's "investigation"

You should think again.

Arpaio is a racist, punk.

My ability to think is exactly why I posted this.

Maybe I'm naive because I'm Canadian, but in a state that borders Mexico, is it not common sense that one might come to a reasonable conclusion that most illegal immigrants may look, I don't know, like they're Latino? Maybe if he were a sheriff in Alaska and checking out more Latinos, I'd believe he was a racist.

Also, if something is really occurring, the use of quotations around the word doesn't make it less real and less happening. This is a real CRIMINAL INVESTIGATION.

Lastly, if my knowledge of grammar serves me correctly, it would appear to me that you are calling me a punk rather than Arpaio. That's just rude, bro.

"We are not human beings having a spiritual experience; we are spiritual beings having a human experience"—Pierre Teilhard de Chardin

Wrongly used comma, sorry.

I wouldn't call you a punk. :)

It isn't a real investigation.

No worries.

What makes you say it's not a real investigation?

"We are not human beings having a spiritual experience; we are spiritual beings having a human experience"—Pierre Teilhard de Chardin

I haven't researched indepth

But I don't trust Arpaio:

http://www.thefogbow.com/special-reports/first-arpaio-press-...

Also, if you listen to the radio interview in the above linked YouTube you posted, the first few minutes are "blah blah claim I tried to write a book blah blah blah blah I'm not writing a book" pointless dialogue. If these guys had any pertinent info, it'd be "The claims I am trying to write a book are false, here is our new evidence!" as the first thing they said. But you have to just wait a few weeks for their "surprise." I say they're frauds.

For someone who hasn't done your own in-depth research

you are very sure of your opinion.

I can tell you, as someone who HAS researched this issue in-depth, and listening thoroughly through the "blah blah blahs", I can say you are not completely correct.

The E-book in question was everything that was released in the press conference where all of the evidence was presented. They did this to get all of that same info out in E-book form so it can reach people all over the world. Lt. Zullo charged $0.60 per copy and all the proceeds went to his church. Good for him.

When you have an ongoing investigation, you don't generally go blabbing about all the new evidence you've since collected.

Do you not think that exposing the biggest fraud in US, if not World history, is an important matter to be investigated? You realize that all the laws and executive orders, like the NDAA, would be null and void? This investigation is the achilles heel of the corrupt Establishment, but it seems you may have bought into the Donald Trump ridiculousness that made this issue seem like a joke BY DESIGN.

Perhaps you SHOULD research it in-depth. Then you might see how important this is to all our freedoms. I am a graphic designer and I pulled that "BC" apart myself and quite easily actually. It is a BUILT ARTWORK and not a scan of an official document as it is claimed to be. Unless you have some expertise that has caused you to come to your conclusions, beyond the character assassination attempts on Arpaio (which are irrelevant if true anyway), then PLEASE enlighten us.

"We are not human beings having a spiritual experience; we are spiritual beings having a human experience"—Pierre Teilhard de Chardin

deacon's picture

it appears to me

it happened because of his investigation
how do you suppose it came about?
deacon

setting your expectations to high,can cause depression

deacon's picture

yes..by illegal drivers

if they were not driving,then there would be no need
for the so-called profiling
because if they didn't drive,then them sheriffs would have no need
to watch for illegals driving
in our state they have a real easy time getting a drivers license
they bring one in who interprets(gives the answer),take the questionnaire to the counter,pay a small fee,get license (without even taking the driving test) then drive home !!
now when an american goes to get theres,it costs around $400,complete with a permit,then the driving test(which costs extra)
deacon

setting your expectations to high,can cause depression

Because,

"The ruling against the Maricopa County sheriff came in response to a class-action lawsuit brought by Hispanic drivers"

Your FOS !

'came in response to a class-action lawsuit brought by Hispanic drivers"
WHO FOR THE MOST PART are sympathetic towards the law breakers because of their 'race'......See it and hear it everyday here in Texas...who the hell do you think your fooling anyway Bozo? Because if the Feds say so it must be true RIGHT? Your a Idiot!

"If ever time should come, when vain and aspiring men shall possess the highest seats in Government, our country will stand in need of its experienced patriots to prevent its ruin."
Samuel Adams

"WHO FOR THE MOST PART are

"WHO FOR THE MOST PART are sympathetic towards the law breakers because of their 'race'"

That could be a factor, or it could more logically be, many citizens from Arizona's Hispanic population, who are legal citizens (like a class-action would be filed on behalf of illegals?!) were unnecessarily profiled and harrassed by Arpaio's sheriffs and officers, because their race.

The only thing I'm full of is Quinoa from supper lol.

You have NO clue !

Where do you live ? In MANY cases it is the very citizens you speak of that pay to have their family smuggled over here! I will tell you something else, Hispanics/Mexicans stick together LIKE GLUE...

"If ever time should come, when vain and aspiring men shall possess the highest seats in Government, our country will stand in need of its experienced patriots to prevent its ruin."
Samuel Adams

Where I live doesn't have any influence on my informed opinion.

But fyi, I don't live in Texas (your state) or Arizona.

Let's say, for the sake of argument, Arpaio and his sheriffs and officers are almost all Hispanic. You, for this, are White (probably your race anyway.) Arpaio's sheriffs and officers routinely profile and harass White citizens, including yourself, because they're White. Many of you are legal. Would you be pissed off? A simple Yes or No will suffice.

"In MANY cases it is the very citizens you speak of that pay to have their family smuggled over here!"

What percentage? How MANY? What supporting documentation?

((Where I live doesn't have

((Where I live doesn't have any influence on my 'informed' opinion.))

The hell it doesn't!. Complete and utter BS!..My supporting documentation is living here the last 43 years and seeing it all around me FIRST HAND! You cant document something that's undocumented and for the most part ignored by the authorities! Ive watched the demographics here change at a unbelievable rate solely because of illegal immigration and the lack of enforcement and of course them coming over here and having babies LOTS of babies and sucking on the government tit.
I have a neighbor who has admittedly been bringing his family members over here for the last 10 years. He's told me how bad it is there. Living here, If your observant to whats going on around you, you can see it all around you! Where do you think those folks get the many thousands of dollars to pay the smugglers? In Mexico ? I'm supposed to believe that these people who for the most part dont own nothing but the shirt on their back saved thousands of dollars to pay for smugglers by working in Mexico ? If thats the case, WHY COME HERE ? I'll tell you something else about Mexicans/Hispanics, They put their family and RACE first!
You will never see a Mexican/Hispanic hire a white guy to do anything, they will only take care of their own ! Ive talked to many Hispanics and almost ALL are sympathetic towards illegals so go blow your 'informed' opinion up somebodies ass that doesn't know any better. WTF do you want them to do , pull over white people to curtail illegal immigration? Your politically correct BS is just that, BS that just adds to the problem...When you live around it and see it everyday you dont need to read some BS Government documentation...as if it would be worth a chit anyway.....

"If ever time should come, when vain and aspiring men shall possess the highest seats in Government, our country will stand in need of its experienced patriots to prevent its ruin."
Samuel Adams

I am not saying

that those type of crimes (what are conspiracy crimes, to illegally enter the U.S.) aren't true in some cases. And I don't live in Texas or Arizona, so my opinion isn't based on firsthand experience. I'll partially default to you on that.

But the fact remains, the class-action was filed on behalf of legal U.S. citizens who'd been profiled and harassed by a racist sheriff's department, no matter if that department's "intention" was good.

Fourth Amendment

The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.

Being a person of a certain race, who others of that race are, or possibly have been, committing crimes, is not reasonable grounds. And that's why Arpaio had the judgement not in his favor.