OUTRAGE in Louisiana!!
Submitted by islandflyer on Wed, 01/23/2008 - 10:23
I'm speechless!!
You have GOT to see this to believe it.
It's on Lew Rockwell's blog, on top at 10:AM
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Is this worth discussing?
How many more states have this kind of situation? Any more caucus left?
What gets me is that the "Reagan Pro-Lifers" AREN'T
What gets me is that the anti-Paul coalition in Louisiana lied through its teeth to call themselves "Reagan Pro-Lifers." What did Reagan do to protect the rights of unborn persons? Talk is cheap. Giuliani, McCain, Romney and Huckabee all talk out of both sides of their mouth on abortion. The one who talks the best talk is Huckabee but even he did NOTHING substantial for the rights of unborn persons while governor of Arkansas!
Thoroughly disgusting. It really shows what god these guys worship: they idolize and lust after political power.
God is the LOVE in the Ron Paul rEVOLution: "Dear friends, let us love one another, for love comes from God. Everyone who loves has been born of God and knows God. Whoever does not love does not know God, because God is love. This is how God showed his lo
RP Delegates MUST GO UNDERGROUND
Remember 1776, incognito...
We need to be alot more subtle during these kinds of events.
Then get buck wild RP style during rallys!!
I can't believe Louisiana GOP would
allow candidates to fuse together. Either list your name for consideration, or don't. That's pretty cheesy. Just right for fraud and manipulation. Ron Paul should have just played along and put his support in the "fusion" goup, and then guess what you'ld have - a Unanimous Winner - the Fusion Group! How stupid can politics get?
alan laney
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What you all are missing is
What you all are missing is that when we get to the convention there will most likely be only one of them left and Dr. Paul, and they will throw their votes to whoever opposes Dr. Paul. They did this purely to tie up the delegates for who ever is left standing at convention time. They also used the RTL moniker to deceive voters into voting against Dr. Paul but not for anyone.
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By the convention, Ron may
By the convention, Ron may have many more supporters, maybe enough support that the party would have to back him
Bilabrin, xxonice, and overcominghope...
I saw your comments down at the bottom and hopefully I can help. If it makes you feel any better, I live here (in LA) and I find the process one mass of confusion.
We have 7 districts, and each district elects 15 delegates to go to the state level (on Feb. 16) at which point the # of delegates will be reduced to 44 through rounds of voting. After that point, I get confused so I won't try to explain it further than that.
Our primary is on Feb 9th.
Now, last night at the caucus (district 7) we had a huge Ron Paul table, and LOTS of Ron Paul people. There was one little Mitt Romney table with 3 people and hardly a soul talking to them.
Further down the hall, there was a large group of people with "Pro-life/Pro-Family" fliers, and lists of which delegates to vote for. We, at the time assumed that they were McCain people. Now, it appears that it was a fusion of the candidates banding together.
At one point, some McCain people were trying to take the Ron Paul delegate list out of our people's hands and substitute it with their list; but our group wisened up to that REAL quick.
We had a huge turnout, and there were Ron Paul people everywhere. We had stickers on everyone who walked in and was voting for Ron Paul delegates. But it was essentially one candidates delegates, up against all 4 others running as one group. It's ok though, we'll still kick their butts at the primary on the 9th.
Hope that helps a little.
My thoughts after the process....maybe we should have infiltrated THEIR campaigns, and run as delegates for their candidates (or pretended to be uncommited like they did) and then voted for Ron Paul at the state level. But then, that would be stooping to their level. :)
Tit for tat - Apparently this is what it will require
I hate to say it but it looks like we're going to have to employ these tactics as well. My GF will be a delegate in Virginia. I will advise her to proceed appropriately.
THIS IS A JOKE
Please join me in getting "Project 'AIR' Strike" off the ground.
http://www.dailypaul.com/node/28738
WOW
those dirty rotten b*stards. They MUST be stopped.
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HQ should issue a press release declaring victory in Louisiana!
Something like "Ron Paul won more delegates than any other candidate!"
THAT would send the OM into a tizzie, and put this issue into the limelight!
Let's Reign! (Rev. 5:10)
Let's Reign! (Rev. 5:10)
Valrico (Hillsborough County), Florida
YES. Exactly. They cannot refute it.
The only thing they could say is a slate of all other candidates had to form to put down this rebellion.
Ron Paul Takes Louisiana!!!!
We're Seeing 'Em Sweat!
...hmm...the other candidates grouped together and formed a pro-life/pro-family slate in Louisiana, eh?
Could they be nervous about Jane Roe's endorsement of Ron Paul, and what that might mean for their campaigns?
Let's make 'em shake in their boots even more: heed the call to action -- click on this link NOW and shoot off a quick email to the RTL groups. Lots of contact addresses are in the comments section of that post.
No, really -- go there now. We can each invest just a few minutes to reap a bounty of support!
They ganged up to beat
They ganged up to beat RP:
http://www.nolanchart.com/article1382.html
Deer in Healdights
I guess we should expect a lot more of this childlike behavior in the coming contests. On the positive side though, this is an obvious act of desperation. The saddest part is that this all boils down to 1 issue: Iraq. Blind loyalty to corrupt leadership is NOT a virtue, But saving face has become a way of life for this poor lot. These people would sooner Die than let their precious Trophy from Iraq slip away, and they'll gladly take the rest of us down with them.
So my question is, what is the better strategy? Focus on converting the enemy, or focus on new recruits? or both?
So give them a reason,,,,
,,,to change their minds and still feel good about themselves, e.g. the war is unaffordable, the country is going bankrupt, in hock to the Chinese, borders undefended etc
It's like Michael Medved
It's like Michael Medved said, "Ron Paul is more dangerous that Barack Obama."
The neo-con warmongering scumbags will do anything to beat RP!
OK I checked out the rules
It doesn't matter if the other campaigns formed a pro-life/pro-family slate (Mitt pro-life?) except for the MEDIA. otherwise we still get the same number of delegates to the state convention. The other FUSION delegates are now UNCOMMITTED, which means that they could vote for anyone, including Ron Paul, but are most likely to break up into their previous choices. I mean can you see a huck supporter voting for Mitt? So we will still have the most delegates at the convention. That means we picked up AT LEAST 10 delegates last night. Probably more, with another 11-12 being split between the other 4 and 22 uncommitted unless there is a clear majority (51%) in the primary, which will mean those 22 go to the winner. Clearly underhanded, but does not affect our delegate count.
But it mattered for the
But it mattered for the voters. Every voter was allowed to vote 15 people. Because the other candidates didn't have that many people to offer, they formed the pro-life/pro-family slate so that the supporters could in a mutual agreement, vote for each others' candidates and just trust others would do the same.
That sounds
like a sound explanation - I hope you're right.
Lets cross that bridge when we get to it
Lets worry about kicking *ss in the primaries!
unreal
Do they actually WANT us to never vote Republican again?
I just watched Ron Paul's speech at the March For Life. They had huge Ron Paul banners. At least some of us are old enough to know what a real Republican is. Ron's speech was good.
And to think that the psuedo-Republicans used Ronald Reagan's image to impose tyranny. What a travesty.
delete my account!!!
I don't get it
this is exactly my thinking. It's as if they are SO blinded by this partisan limited issue mentality that they dont even care if they lose the conservative vote. It's like they WANT be to resign from the GOP. I'm really pissed off by this. I know there is disagreement between Paul and the others but really as a conservative there should be far more agreement than disagreement. Guns, taxes, spending, borders, etc should all be common ground. I just dont get it.
Exactly right
I mean, Lousiana they could just dismiss as a state that noone cared about. Let us have our few delegates and leave us alone. Now we are all the more motivated to not just see Ron as the GOP nominee, but all the more resolute in encouraging him to run third party.
OVer and over, they have made very clear that the GOP of today wants nothing to with Dr Paul and his views. So if they won't have us, I will be more than happy to oblige.
SOund like Louisiana needs some CommonSense
Ron Paul & Common Sense flyers
Provisional LA votes
Wouldn't these provisional votes matter once the no-RonPaul group has to split to their candidates? They don't matter against the entire group, but they could easily matter when the group gets to the LA state convention and each delegate has to pick one Republican candidate.
Maybe.
They could. These names at the top are for a slate of non-Ron Paul delegates. They will be casting votes for someone other than Ron Paul, but there is a very good chance that Ron Paul, with the provisional ballots can pick up a delegate here and there, but the way I see it, there are 11 districts with 15 delegates each. That's 165 delegates total. If you assume that those 15 are made up of three for each candidate.. Huck, Rudy, Mitt, Fred, Mac, then each candidate has 33 delegates. There's no way Ron Paul picks up enough of the provisionals to win. These delegates aren't bound to vote one or the other. They can all vote for one at the state convention if they have to. What will need to happen is for the delegates that support Fred, Rudy, and Huck to not show up at the state convention in order to get Ron Paul friendly alternates in their place. Or, the alternative. The economy crashes and these guys get convinced that Ron Paul is the best choice.
Don't they have till Feb 9th
to decide? They could all go to one guy, to whoever is left standing after Super Tuesday - to prevent Ron Paul from winning the state.
I'm sick to my stomach - I had no idea that this sort of treachery was even possible.
By the time of the convention
one or more may have dropped out. In that case, those that are left will split the delegates.