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Adam tells the story.

Just info, but Adam and fellow inmate tell their story in Adam's latest podcast.

I don't see it posted here. (Surely it has been)

https://adamvstheman.com/podcast/
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#258 The Final American Revolution - Adam's Prison Stories - Mon, 27 May 2013

http://adamkokesh.libsyn.com/

http://tinyurl.com/npwlz63 <--- Direct download: Adams_back.mp3

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UPDATE:

Extremely important hour interview with Adam Kokesh re Mass Civil Disobedience:
Restructure: The March in DC is off - it will now take place at all 50 State Capitals
http://vimeo.com/67067868

2013-05-27 Hour 3 Adam Kokesh - from Ernest Hancock

Declare Your Independence with Ernest Hancock radio show. Listen Live on LRN.FM, M-F, 9-Noon (EST). James Babb introduces Adam Kokesh ( Adamvstheman.Com) on his recent arrest and what is next for the Armed March on Washington and the nation - N.A.Poe (The Panic Hour) on his arrest/activism...

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And if the band you're in starts playing different tunes, I'll see you on the dark side of the moon.

If the federal agents said...

That Adam used his hands to hold back and push a federal agent, and the video clearly shows both his hands up in the air; doesn't that mean perjury?

Why aren't these agents being charged and tried?

Would it be worth our time to figure out who made the false claim and call for their prosecution?

Yes

Can you imagine how much more perjury occurred before cell phone cameras?

As you point out it's clear perjury. We need an effort to push for prosecution.

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It's easy to imagine

Police cameras fail at a rate something like 200,000% more than industry standards.

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LOL @ "Adam's prison stories."

The guy was in holding. Here's how it works, first you go to holding, then you go to court, then you go to jail to await sentencing if convicted, you go to court again for sentencing and then get shipped off to prison if your sentencing is more than 6 months. This guy is milking his little "stint" for everything it is worth.

Now he is claiming to be the leader of the "Free Revolutionary Army?"

Sorry, I have lost all respect for Adam. Perhaps he smoked that DMT one to many times?

“When a well-packaged web of lies has been sold gradually to the masses over generations, the truth will seem utterly preposterous and its speaker a raving lunatic.” – Dresden James

Milking it?

Should he be downplaying it? I mean the point is to demonstrate to the public that anyone can be arrested on bogus charges and what they can expect...

If the "holding" is unpleasant, and there never was good reason for a citizen to be detained in the first place, what issue do you have with "milking it"?

Would you mind being placed in holding for a few days on a trumped up charge?

The issue I have

is him lying saying he was in prison. He was not in prison, and there is a huge difference between holding, jail, and prison. I hear the MSM sensationalizing things enough, why does he have to take a page out of their book and lie about where he has been?

To me, there is a huge difference between prison and everything else. It is the big house, and why would someone brag about being there if they weren't? Unless they want credibility, and imo him saying he was in prison tells me he is only trying to build credibility. Sorry, but between him claiming that, and now saying he is the leader of the 'American Revolutionary Army" (which sounds eerily similar to the 'Free Syrian Army,' I no longer trust the guy.

And where the hell did he get the 'Free Revolutionary Army' slogan from any way? Did he just make it up and appoint himself leader?

“When a well-packaged web of lies has been sold gradually to the masses over generations, the truth will seem utterly preposterous and its speaker a raving lunatic.” – Dresden James

Ok I see your point.

I voted you up because I think its STUPID to vote down an opinion you don't agree with. I'm not sure why you're getting all these down votes, or what anyone hopes to gain here. Instead of trying to chase you off the board I'd rather engage you and come to an understanding. (Thats the first 'P' in the sites name in action)

I can see that these are perhaps two very different things, holding pin and prison...

I just think the bigger issue here is false arrest. So I tend to feel like it is semantics like someone else has already said.

"now saying he is the leader of the 'American Revolutionary Army" - I even understand to a large degree your feelings there too. But you know its just marketing an idea. Adam uses this macho BS but his Ideas are worth listening to I think.

It's semantics...

Here in Philadelphia, the county jail is called the Philadelphia Prison.

And if the band you're in starts playing different tunes, I'll see you on the dark side of the moon.

It is not

semantics.

"Though they are similar, jails are not the same as prisons. Prisons are large facilities that hold large numbers of people for long terms; jails are usually smaller and hold smaller numbers of people for short terms. Prisons confine only convicted criminals; jails can hold convicted criminals, but usually only for short periods. Many jails are used for the sole purpose of detaining defendants awaiting trial. In jurisdictions with these jails, a subsequent sentence of short-term incarceration is served at a different facility, such as a work farm or workhouse."

http://legal-dictionary.thefreedictionary.com/jail
http://www.diffen.com/difference/Jail_vs_Prison

There is a big difference in being in prison and being in jail.

“When a well-packaged web of lies has been sold gradually to the masses over generations, the truth will seem utterly preposterous and its speaker a raving lunatic.” – Dresden James

if he was held in a prison then he was in prison

He clearly was not in just a jail, from his description he was indeed in a prison. Have you ever been in a prison? They are not pleasant places to be even if you are only in there for a day and you are a worker rather than someone being "held" there against their will.
In his case he didn't know how long he would be there which is even worse in a way. They could have considered him an enemy combatant and kept him indefinitely.

I didn't take it as bragging but rather describing. Everyone has their own filters I guess.

I have never been in

a prison or a jail, but have family who have. When you go to prison, you go first for intake. It is 23 hour lock down with zero visitors, 3 showers a week. You do not go directly to prison for anything. His story is complete bs, and I am ashamed that so many believe it.

People are so gullible.

*Edit* I was inside a prison for visitation, does that mean I was in prison?

“When a well-packaged web of lies has been sold gradually to the masses over generations, the truth will seem utterly preposterous and its speaker a raving lunatic.” – Dresden James

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Duplicity infects many victims, not the criminals.

If criminals have taken over, then why will, as in free will, why will any victim then claim that it is government, since it isn't, since it has been taken over?

I stopped the radio broadcast that was broadcast by the speaker Adam Kokesh at the point where he says that "the government escalates."

I can quote directly for greater clarity:

"The events of this past week from the government in response to the detainment of myself and N.A.Poe from Philadelphia this past weekend have revealed that the government is willing to escalate when it comes to confronting political opposition." Adam Kokesh

Here is a very serious demarcation line, such as can be described as The Thin Blue Line, or phrases such as "where the rubber meets the road" can help convey the accurate, honest, measure of the time and place where human beings either cause or fail to cause government to be real, in fact.

If a person intends to communicate, honestly, and accurately, that government will be done, in fact, then the intention to reach that goal can result in the fact that that goal is reached.

Government is the goal, government is worked toward accomplishing, and then the goal is reached, there it is, government, we the people have it, it is ours, thank God.

If, on the other hand, the intent is to communicate falsehoods, to reach the goal of confusing the targeted victims of falsehood, then that can prove to be true too, in due time, as that goal is reached, and as the targeted victims are successfully deceived, once that goal is reached.

Counterfeit government?

Government is not crime, or there would be one word, not two.

1. Crime
2. Government
3. Crime made Legal = NOT GOVERNMENT

Back to the words taken out of context, but none-the-less words that carry meaning, and therefore words that may help in the accurate assessment of the intended meaning, which then uncovers the intended purpose.

"The events of this past week from the government in response to the detainment of myself and N.A.Poe from Philadelphia this past weekend have revealed that the government is willing to escalate when it comes to confronting political opposition." Adam Kokesh

To me the government in question here is the people, self governors, who are abiding by the rule of law, the people who are sticking to the rule of law, the people here who are standing upon the principles of law, which is well understood by anyone to be, a process that is due to everyone without exception.

If someone claims that they are exceptional, as in someone claiming to be above the law, then that, to me, is a dead giveaway, an easy to see confession, a false front no longer working to cover up the criminal, a curtain pulled back by the criminal themselves, as the criminal confesses their crimes, openly, and as accurately measurable as anything that can be accurately measured, such as knowing that 1 apple added to 1 apple is 2 apples.

No one under a voluntary government agreement to be volunteers volunteering to create, and maintain government, does so as the one exception to the rules. Do unto others before they can do unto you?

The person, the individual, who claims to be outside of the law, does so, volunteers to do so, and that is, again, the dead giveaway, as the criminal confesses by doing so, with the spoken word, or failing to confess orally, the criminal confesses with willful actions.

Which government is it, Adam, or anyone, where this government, so called, exempts themselves from due process, which is a process due everyone without exception?

Words again:

"The events of this past week from the government in response to the detainment of myself and N.A.Poe from Philadelphia this past weekend have revealed that the government is willing to escalate when it comes to confronting political opposition." Adam Kokesh

I am all for armed protest against criminals who have usurped the otherwise lawful power of government at the National level, since that happens as a result of aggressive attacks by those criminals on a regular basis.

Waco is the shinning example of which I speak.

Church members in a Church were armed, and they protested, because they were criminally attacked by inhuman beings who tortured those people, babies, mothers, pregnant mothers, toddlers, teenagers, independent men and women, parents, old people, alike, tortured, for months, then they were burned to death, crushed, shot, beheaded, piled unto piles of burnt flesh and bones, commingled into masses of corpses, left to rot, for awhile, autopsies were done, but for the most part much of the incupatory evidence was destroyed, and those who were not burned, shot, and murdered, were then tried in a False Court, for the crime of failing to die, and those survivors are not rotting in the American version of The Gulag Archipelago.

The armed march occurs daily.

The aggressors are marching.

They marched through a Church in Texas.

They keep marching.

Some of the victims are armed, some not.

So why call it government?

Is the idea, such, that the goal is to confuse the targeted victims?

Criminals lie.

Criminals threaten.

Criminals torture and mass murder.

So why would anyone call those criminals anything but criminals, and why call their offices anything but illegitimate, why call their offices anything but false, and anything but government?

Why confuse the places where criminals meet and plan their crimes anything but places where criminals meet and plan their crimes, why call those places government offices?

Is the goal reasonable, attainable, and therefore reached by a certain date, or is the goal of falsehood perpetuated, on purpose, to maintain falsehood as the governing power governing all the targeted victims?

https://agoristmetals.com/

That is competition against monopoly, which is like water thrown on the Wicked Witch of the West, or Sunlight on a Vampire.

Like this:

"It is well enough that people of the nation do not understand our banking and monetary system, for if they did, I believe there would be a revolution before tomorrow morning."

Henry Ford

1.
End the FED
2.
End the IRS
3.
Bring the Troops Home (not to enforce 1 and 2)
4.
Do so by July 4th 2013 and who would be left to object to a being defensively armed anywhere in America?

In that video there is mention of a Lawyer. I would like to know if the Lawyer was a Union Lawyer, a Member of The Bar Association, and as such there would be leverage applied to that individual concerning how that individual makes individual decisions in this case, whereby a wrong move could cause the removal of his license, and a right move could preserve the license to "Practice Law" in Union Courts.

What was the jurisdiction claimed by the Judge in that Union Court?

I would like to know that too.

A statement was written by Adam, but not used, as the Lawyer representing Adam managed to get Adam free of further "punishment" by other means, not stated (as far as I know from the first hearing of this audio file linked in this Topic on this Forum.

Jim Mcque? <--------Lawyer

Statement spoken (not used in the Union Court) by Adam:

"This is a clear-cut case of selective political prosecution and I refuse to accept anything other than dismissal, or dropping of all charges, or a verdict of not guilty on all counts following a speedy trial by a jury of my peers. This court is of no legitimate authority and I refuse to wave any of my rights including, and especially, my rights to privacy, my right to the sanctity of my body, and my right to seek justice for unlawful arrest and detainment." Adam Kokesh

Strategy was explained later in the audio file linked.

Confront your accuser?

This goes to Adam:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wqcizZebcaU

Joe

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Immunity

"If someone claims that they are exceptional, as in someone claiming to be above the law, then that, to me, is a dead giveaway, an easy to see confession, a false front no longer working to cover up the criminal, a curtain pulled back by the criminal themselves, as the criminal confesses their crimes, openly, and as accurately measurable as anything that can be accurately measured, such as knowing that 1 apple added to 1 apple is 2 apples. "

Exactly: no piece of matter is immune from the consequences of actions taken by, or on, that matter (e.g., laws of thermodynamics).

For someone to state that they have been granted "immunity" to the consequences of their actions, then it is obvious that we should carefully watch those actions and ensure that they are not aligned with evil. Or, differently stated, actions that can have no consequences are inherently evil.

I live in MA, and the case against Whitey Bulger is going on now. He killed a bunch of people in the Boston area, and believed that he had been granted some form of "immunity" by the Feds. Regardless of whether the government will go after him for his actions, I'm sure the families of the deceased will want justice. If the government isn't going to provide it, then they just might provide it for themselves.

Which is to say, "immunity" only goes so far. And should never exist, because consequences are just.

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A better link, to more accurate (not so well twisted) information, may be supplied to meet the demand. A new topic perhaps?

I would like to take this opportunity to express my opinion that Adam Kokesh is doing all the right things that can be expected of an honest person who specializes in Defense of Liberty, an example of what can be done to move toward the goal of Liberty, and an example of what can be done to move away from Crime made Legal.

To me the example of Adam Kokesh is an example of why the Legal Criminals must have War, at all cost, War must exist perpetually, so as to kill off all the Adam Kokesh examples that may grow up around this great Country.

War is a means by which all the best and brightest are either killed off, or made less best, and made less bright, by exposure to pure evil.

I can look into the Whitney Bulger case, and thanks for it, as the more of this that occurs, the less effective will be the lies that work to cover up the crimes made legal by those Usurpers who took over government back in 1788, and those successive generations of Legal Criminals who still have that power to this day.

I think it is amazing, and a world of hope, to note, that despite the opposite of government being in force for over 200 years in this Country, We The People are still able to produce anything worth any value at all.

My thanks to the parents of Adam Kokesh, as far as I can tell so far, that is one exceptional child made by them, now Defending Liberty as no one else can.

Joe

Do You Have The Same Kind Of Problem

With people who call Obama the president? IF so you must be switching off a lot of people (in person and on TV, radio, and so on).

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Disccussion versus Dictation

I can't answer your question without a specific reference by a specific person.

I know, and can verify, that "The President" is an office of false authority in the true sense of the word.

If there is currently a person in that office of false authority, then that person has a name, and if the name is mentioned by anyone, then they have a reason for mentioning that person's name.

If the reason for naming the person can be understood, then there can be a discussion commencing from that moment on.

If the reason for naming the person is dictatorial, then the discussion will be very short, and one sided.

If you can explain why you targeted me with this reply on this forum topic, then I may be able to tailor fit the answers I can offer competitively, for your consideration, concerning the questions you offer to me.

Back to thinking about Adam and his work:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m6hxZ8ze-eY

Know your rights!

Joe

I think those who follow this guy are making a mistake

I don't know if he is an agent provocateur, but he might as well be if he isn't.

We all want progress, but if you're on the wrong road, progress means doing an about-turn and walking back to the right road; in that case, the man who turns back soonest is the most progressive.

-C. S. Lewis

Would you care to explain?

I understand that you have an opinion, but I have no idea how you came to have it because you've given us no argument.

I think this community should be about free exchange of many points of view, but none of us benefit without your case being made with a logical argument.

To My Knowledge

this is my first reply to any thread regarding Adam ( other than signing up and attending the March on D.C. in March 2012. "Just Do It", Brother.

Wow adam kokesh you have a

Wow adam kokesh you have a shirt with the F word on it, Your sooo Anarchy

You don't like Adam's style...

So what? I don't understand the motivation to comment on the personality of a guy arrested for a trumped up charge.

Is there an intellectual point here that I am missing?

What are you missing?

Get your Adam's F-ing style merch now! Don't delay!!!

some explaining to do..

Like why AK's FB page said he worked for Obama for Action ( an organisation that now leverages Obama's reelection to help push for gun control) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uCdADfVF6dI&feature=youtube_...

And how a website push for 'freeing Adam kokesh' was created 6 days before he was arrested.

http://www.networksolutions.com/whois/results.jsp?domain=FRE...

Is this one big set up?

ever

heard of sarcasm??

there are very specific trackable AIPAC-dildo-sucking neoCON/Tea-o-CON shiitebags who were the only ones who fell for that nonsense, and propagandized it as 'fact' online to their 'freedom'-friends: Cliff Kincaid, Michelle Malkin, Freedom Outpost, and a neoNazi twat Andrew Anglin: http://www.dailypaul.com/comment/3083218

plus his legal fund was set up in prep for the expectant arrest at the July 4th armed march@DC; at EVERY SINGLE previous Smoke-Down event, Adam and crew were NEVER arrested, so according to AVTM's producers and George Donnelly, Adam's lawyer from Shield Mutual, they were not expecting to be arrested, at the recent one. Though obviously, it all turned out differently. lol.

So, the REAL question is, whyTF would ANYONE believe what Michelle Malkin, AIPAC-Kochsucker Cliff Kincaid, RINO/Tea-O-CON Freedom Outpost, and a NeoNazi Andrew Anglin have to say, over what Adam Kokesh, regardless of one's legitimate or illegitimate qualms about his public persona, tact, etc., has to say??

Predictions in due Time...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zGDisyWkIBM

"Let it not be said that no one cared, that no one objected once it's realized that our liberties and wealth are in jeopardy." - Dr. Ronald Ernest Paul

Simple rule

Don't trust anyone, question everything. I don't care what your or anyone's opinion of Kokesh is or how many down votes people give me for just asking legitimate questions because here are some facts : The government employs agents provocateurs. AK knows this, he talks about it on his shows. There is nothing that AK can do to prevent agents provocateurs from infiltrating the march on DC without impossibly vetting personally every one of the marchers. AK would know the devastating effect of an A.P. shooting at the police...brutal crackdown followed by massive support for more gun control and discrediting of libertarians. Those FACTS mean we need to be extra more vigilant and ask legitimate questions as to why would AK expose the movement to this kind of risk and can we be absolutely sure he is genuine and not compromised.

they're ALL dangerous....

...if they were given "power": including AK .... Take the blinders off, atheists are insane fools!

The preferential collectivist mindset, craving security within one's group of "like minded individuals", is human....wouldn't matter if they're Jew-hating Nazi's, Chicago cop-hating gang members, Ron Paul supporers, Fox News junkies, Alex Jones worshipers, Catholics or Southern Baptists...

You hurl plenty of collectivist adjectives to describe those who disgust you, but if I wanted to waste my time, I'd betcha I could find a common thread that runs through Alex Jones, Kokesh, and the TF boy......

Bad things are happening in America, and there are MANY, MANY steam valves.looking to $$$capitalize$$$ off it!

Future News, The News You Can

Future News, The News You Can Plan On

Thursday, July 4, 2013

Joe Sheeple is firing up the grill, having just seen his in-laws pull into the driveway. Joe is soon joined on the patio by his brother-in-law, who greets him with "Man, how 'bout those shootings!"

"What shootings?", responds Joe.

"The ones in DC, you didn't hear?"

Joe turns the boob tube on to his most trusted news source, CNN, where the talking head is reporting "... Kokesh, an avowed anarchist, was leading a band of armed militants into the capitol today, when shots rang out. A firefight ensued, leading to the death of 6 militants and 2 DC police officers. Reports on the numbers injured are still sketchy.

The intent of the group is unclear, but Kokesh was arrested earlier this year for assaulting a federal officer."

Friday, July 5, 2013: Morning Joe

Mika (the voice of acceptable centrism from the left) delivers the report on the events of the prior day, then weighs in with "Joe, I know you have not been wholly supportive of what most of us would consider to be sensible gun laws in the past, what about now? We can't have armed anarchists terrorizing the citizenry, can we?"

Joe (the voice of acceptable centrism from the right) in his most serious voice responds "Mika, no, we can't. The gun rights nuts have now gone much too far. Congress needs to act, immediately and forcefully, to put a stop this threatening behavior."

Mika "Next up, we'll get Senator Chuck Schumer's thoughts on what must be done to stop events like yesterday's from ever happening in this country again.

Friday Evening, July 5, 2013: The Rachel Maddow Show

Maddow "... and this Kokesh character, he's not just an avowed anarchist, he was a Ron Paul supporter, check out this video we pulled from his YouTube channel..."

(first 8 seconds of this clip is shown) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FHEYl9fBh5w

Maddow, turning to guest "It makes you wonder how many other kooks there are in the so called liberty movement..."

I must be willing to give up what I am in order to become what I will be. Albert Einstein

well, then call me a "Kook"

http://www.dailypaul.com/286713/oh-by-the-way-to-all-r3vol-h...

'Cause I don't give a flying fcuk what a bunch of retard Z-grade actors guild at the Microsoft-GE-Warmachine propagansist whore brigade delude, nor what a collectivist 'oh you people make 'us' and 'our' movement look bad' thinks, either.

Statist propagandists are gonna do and say whatever they're gonna do, and say on their 2,000 audience per night shows.

LOL

Should ask yourself occasionally: if as Gerald Celente so often summarizes, "Politics is showbiz for ugly people!" then how much FUGLIER are those who cover and hang on every words of those who ARE 'too ugly for showbiz?'

It's like: 'The Fulglier covering The Uglier.' Two sets of losers legitimizing their mediocrity, in stereo. Whup de fcuking do. LOL

And, they have any credibility in shaping public opinion in the year 2013...because?

The sad reality is, the only ones who watch the likes of FakeNews, MSDNC, and Commie-comedy News Network, and actually believe their propaganda are those who still laughably trust govt and statists, on their sole say-so.

Really, isn't it high time, especially those here at DP, stopped worrying about what you look like to 'them,' or how you're 'seen/taken/understood' by the zombie brain-dead moron sheeple whose very delusional subservient acquiescence brought us to the current precipice, in the first place?

If you're subconsciously seeking 'their' approval for the legitimacy of your own existential well-being, ie. who you are or what you believe, or think, you don't truly own your own conscience. Period.

No?

Predictions in due Time...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zGDisyWkIBM

"Let it not be said that no one cared, that no one objected once it's realized that our liberties and wealth are in jeopardy." - Dr. Ronald Ernest Paul

It's one thing to stand on

It's one thing to stand on our principles, it's another to purposely ignore reality, and reality is that the vast majority of the populace still forms their opinions based on what the MSM feeds them.

If something happens, something violent, in DC, or in any one of the 50 state capitols, the MSM will feed us something like what I posted above, and it will set back the liberty movement, perhaps by decades.

I understand frustration with the way things are, but that's not a good reason to act rashly, especially when one can so easily predict that it won't take much - just one guy doing something stupid - and there will be a bad outcome.

Think reasonably. March, but leave the guns at home.

I must be willing to give up what I am in order to become what I will be. Albert Einstein