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I'm proud to have never served; The great plea for humanity.

I’m sure this post will cause a gamut of emotions but I have come to a point in my life where I feel just as much warrant and right to declare my stance on war, and why it is I am proud to have never served.

If you cannot look at history and see that war is the perpetual branch in the spokes of spiritual evolution and humanity’s fullest potential, then you are seeing life as expendable if it aligns with a “right” cause. Look at the army of broken men returning home and the many thousands more returned before them. Look at the states of mind and the states of physicality of these men. Look at the families torn asunder and the children left parentless all in the name of vindication and retribution and freedom?

Are these men the victors? Are these men any more honorable than me because they adorn a purple heart or keep a uniform of tradition locked up in an old chest, only to be brought into the light on the most saddening of days; days we celebrate without understanding the true foreign policies and the lies by which they are upheld? Are these men any more fortunate for the limbs and wits they’ve lost, the years they’ve sacrificed away from their children, the codes they’ve upheld to see the fruition of grievances and stolen memories of men they have never met? Are these men more pure of heart than me in their complicity to bastardize children and make widows of women? Are these men fighting for God? Are the casualties and ravages of war the orders and knowledge we have of morality and sensibility?

War is plunder; hateful, devolving, destructive and engineered by the darkest recesses of our capacities. How long before we see that?

I would like you all to imagine for a moment that you have just returned home from work. You push the button of the garage-door opener and get out of your car. You see the garage door opening and know immediately it will be followed by, “Daddy!” as your son runs out to greet you in the driveway. You kneel down and give him a hug, the kind of hug you give only your son, the kind of hug that finds you completely vulnerable and alive in the moment. You rub his blonde little head and say, “I missed you so much today buddy” to which he replies, “yeah” (in a tone that tells you he understands what love means and that you are the one responsible for that understanding). You both race to the door and enter the house, greeted by the smell of red lemon potatoes, sautéed tempeh and kale greens. You make your way over to your 3 month old daughter who is drooling and mumbling little protests on the bopi pillow, playfully batting the colorful animals dangling from the arches above her. You pick her up and hold her close and whisper, “I missed you today little princess”, which is followed up by countless kisses upon her forehead, cheeks and lips.

As you all sit down to enjoy the dinner your wife has devoutly made out of love, you hear a wisp and suddenly your back is planted into the kitchen wall. Dazed and bewildered you fall to the floor after what seems an eternal peel from the imprint you left behind. Your eyes are hazy and filled with drywall. There is a deafening, selective silence as you’ve force the sound of detangling debris to reside for the panicked and innate desperation that finds you in hysterics as you look for your wife and children. You glance over to the living room where the recliner has leveled the entertainment center and reduced it to giant slivers of particle board. There is a puddle where your hand lands as you attempt to stand up. It has gathered under the heat of steam from a persimmon piece of metal lodged beneath the side of the refrigerator. You peer out the front door which has been completely unhinged and blown out on the road beyond the scorched front yard, now blackened with the fervent flickers of flame.

And then you see what I pray upon no man, woman or child…you see your life laid out before you in red and eternal rest. You see every single memory in a flash and drop to your knees involuntarily as if you had just been compacted with a sledgehammer between the shoulder-blades. And as you look upon the tattered remains of your family you begin to literally see red. You begin to contemplate things you’ve never imagined yourself capable of thinking. It sets in that you will never walk through that front door again and be tackled with a childish hug. You’ll never see the early smiles of the daughter you were just starting to find interaction with and you will never say, “I love you” and feel the response in breath upon your face of the same statement.

Can you imagine your rage being categorized and your intentions being reduced to a terrorist? Can you imagine what it would be like to be “collateral damage” and have an arrogant prick in another country disavow the traumatic emotional dilemma that you are faced with all because your government was in conflict with another government. Can you imagine your lividness as a man on television speaks for your family as if your loss was “just a consequence of war”?

There are those who will turn an indignant shoulder to the dead in another country, but put yourself in the shoes of just one man who has lost his whole purpose and reason for living and tell me to my face that you believe such an incident to be “just a consequence of war”! I dare you!

Peace and love always.

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War is futile. Plunder always comes after productivity. War is therefore destructive in every way possible.


I feel if someone is considering service they really ponder what type of service they are and may be asked to provide.

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I feel if someone is considering service they really ponder what type of service they are and may be asked to provide.

Father - Husband - Son - Spirit - Consciousness



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"We have allowed our nation to be over-taxed, over-regulated, and overrun by bureaucrats. The founders would be ashamed of us for what we are putting up with."
-Ron Paul



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When was the last war or theater in which Americans died

honorably? We are engaged in over fifty countries if I understand the insanity. Which of those countries offer honorable service?

I'm almost 60 and can't remember a single American military engagement which I would consider honorable. I could be wrong and if so please enlighten me.

"A vote for the lesser of two evils is a vote to keep things the same", Buckminster Fuller..
A choice for liberty is always a choice for liberty.

The war of 1812

When the Brits burned down the White House, we probably should have reminded them of that when we bailed them out in WWI.

The Revolutionary War?

The Revolutionary War?

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Just remember that good men

Just remember that good men died doing violence on your behalf so you could say these things.

What about the soldiers that

What about the soldiers that "serve" in Guantanamo or in Abu-Ghrabi? Are they defending free speech? Are they good?

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which war?

did good men and women die in to secure our freedoms here at home?
which war was it that secured our rights to say anything we wanted?
which was it that secured any of them rights we had before
their was a war to fight?
when was the last time we had a war that involved our land here at home? you know,that our fighting men and women had to protect from outsiders
which rights/freedoms have we lost as a result of wars? no need to go back further than 9-11-2001 to answer this question
did we gain freedoms here at home as a result of 9-11? or was more taken?

If we deny truth before your very eyes,then the rest of what we have to say,is of little consequence

ummm..Revolutionary War ring

ummm..Revolutionary War ring a bell?

War to preserve slavery?

Arguably the "Revolutionary War" was a the last (and only) successful war of secession to preserve the "right" of Americans to own and sell slaves. Had the treasonous insurgents failed in their attempt then chattel slavery would have ended in all of North America in the 1830s when it was abolished throughout the British Empire. As it was, the "peculiar institution" survived for a couple more generations, inflicting still more horrors on innocents. Many a Canadian and Caribbean family can trace their heritage to manumission by the crown in exchange for fighting for king and country. Not saying that particular war was a bad thing, necessarily, just that, like all other things, it had mixed effects.

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i was waiting for that response

more of expecting it,
the poster was not alive during that war,was he/she
so other than that,not one war has been fought to secure anything
here at home in america
so it would seem the poster is glad/happy to not have served in wars that made the bankers richer,and also they were/all unconst

If we deny truth before your very eyes,then the rest of what we have to say,is of little consequence

Your powers of clairvoyance

Your powers of clairvoyance continue to serve you well :)

The OP made no comment that would make me believe that they were only referring to wars since he was born.

I am only pointing out, from a veteran, that we should be careful to share respect to those whom gave their lives, families, and wealth in order to give us what we have/had.

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i knew what you meant

and i did comment further down to that effect
and i do whole heartedly agree with your founders statement
lol clairvoyance,not so much :)

If we deny truth before your very eyes,then the rest of what we have to say,is of little consequence

Am I supposed to feel guilt?

Good men die everyday. I never asked any man to kill for me and certainly never asked any man to sacrifice his future and family for me. Show me how their deaths allow me to say these things.

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I'm sure the colonists tried

I'm sure the colonists tried asking nicely that England would give them sovereignty and rights. Asking nicely didn't work.

Guilt? No, unless you're

Guilt? No, unless you're guilty of something.

Respect and honor? Yes.


I cannot respect someone I do not know simply because they take up a responsbility to kill in the name of a ideal I don't believe in...and I cannot feel honor when it comes at the expense of so many more innocent lives than combatant lives.

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Holy shit. Just show respect

Holy shit.

Just show respect and honor to the memories of the Revolutionary War vets and the patriots who secured us our freedoms from England.

Damn dude, its not that hard.

That is different...

The revolutionary war was a war to rid of oppression and tyranny...it was on our front doorsteps - if you haven't noticed, we are everyone else's doorsteps now.

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And they are not worth

And they are not worth respect because......?

How is the military protecting freedom of speech?

Freedom is repressed during times of war, and the freedoms taken away are usually never restored. War is the health of the State.

The military and militias of

The military and militias of the revolution secured the rights to free speech and others.

Who were they? Only people I

Who were they? Only people I can think of were the founders, who just sat here and waited for the British to attack. Defending yourself is not violence. Violence is offensive, not defensive.

Please come join my forum if you're not a trendy and agree with my points of view.

Are those founders that died

Are those founders that died good enough to be shown a little respect?

Are you going to ask an

Are you going to ask an actual question, or are you going to just make a nonsensical appeal to emotion? Your question is the same kind of crap you hear on TV like "terrorists attack us because of our freedoms." What does respecting the founders have to do with enlisting into the military industrial complex? They aren't serving anyone but war lords. Not the people. Oh, and people worship the founders too much. I think they do just fine in the area of respect with their many holidays.

Please come join my forum if you're not a trendy and agree with my points of view.

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voted up

for truth,and positive statement

If we deny truth before your very eyes,then the rest of what we have to say,is of little consequence