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Ron Paul's TX Straight Talk - June 10, 2013: Journalists like Glenn Greenwald & NSA Whistleblower MUST be Defended!

"There are calls for the persecution of Greenwald and the other whistle-blowers and reporters. They should be defended, as their work defends our freedom."

Ron Paul's Texas Straight Talk 6/10/13: Government Spying: Should We Be Shocked?

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Published on Jun 9, 2013

Government Spying: Should We Be Shocked?

by Ron Paul
June 10, 2013

Last week we saw dramatic new evidence of illegal government surveillance of our telephone calls, and of the National Security Agency's deep penetration into American companies such as Facebook and Microsoft to spy on us. The media seemed shocked.

Many of us are not so surprised.

Some of us were arguing back in 2001 with the introduction of the so-called PATRIOT Act that it would pave the way for massive US government surveillance—not targeting terrorists but rather aimed against American citizens. We were told we must accept this temporary measure to provide government the tools to catch those responsible for 9/11. That was nearly twelve years and at least four wars ago.

We should know by now that when it comes to government power-grabs, we never go back to the status quo even when the "crisis" has passed. That part of our freedom and civil liberties once lost is never regained. How many times did the PATRIOT Act need renewed? How many times did FISA authority need expanded? Why did we have to pass a law to grant immunity to companies who hand over our personal information to the government?

It was all a build-up of the government's capacity to monitor us.

The reaction of some in Congress and the Administration to last week's leak was predictable. Knee-jerk defenders of the police state such as Senator Lindsey Graham declared that he was "glad" the government was collecting Verizon phone records—including his own—because the government needs to know what the enemy is up to. Those who take an oath to defend the Constitution from its enemies both foreign and domestic should worry about such statements.

House Intelligence Committee Chairman Mike Rogers tells us of the tremendous benefits of this Big Brother-like program. He promises us that domestic terrorism plots were thwarted, but he cannot tell us about them because they are classified. I am a bit skeptical, however. In April, the New York Times reported that most of these domestic plots were actually elaborate sting operations developed and pushed by the FBI. According to the Times report, "of the 22 most frightening plans for attacks since 9/11 on American soil, 14 were developed in sting operations."

Even if Chairman Rogers is right, though, and the program caught someone up to no good, we have to ask ourselves whether even such a result justifies trashing the Constitution. Here is what I said on the floor of the House when the PATRIOT Act was up for renewal back in 2011: "If you want to be perfectly safe from child abuse and wife beating, the government could put a camera in every one of our houses and our bedrooms, and maybe there would be somebody made safer this way, but what would you be giving up? Perfect safety is not the purpose of government. What we want from government is to enforce the law to protect our liberties."

What most undermines the claims of the Administration and its defenders about this surveillance program is the process itself. First the government listens in on all of our telephone calls without a warrant and then if it finds something it goes to a FISA court and get an illegal approval for what it has already done! This turns the rule of law and due process on its head.

The government does not need to know more about what we are doing. We need to know more about what the government is doing. We need to turn the cameras on the police and on the government, not the other way around. We should be thankful for writers like Glenn Greenwald, who broke last week's story, for taking risks to let us know what the government is doing. There are calls for the persecution of Greenwald and the other whistle-blowers and reporters. They should be defended, as their work defends our freedom.

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Anyone NOT see the apparent irony of an American National Security State whistleblower, taking refuge in the Communist Fascist Nation of China's sole 'free' enclave of Hong Kong?

Edward Snowden's choice of Hong Kong as haven is a high-stakes gamble
NSA whistleblower's calculations over Hong Kong likely rest on its relatively liberal culture and sovereignty of Beijing

Julian Borger, diplomatic editor
guardian.co.uk
Sunday 9 June 2013 18.24 EDT

In comparison with mainland China, Hong Kong is an island of press freedom and political tolerance. Photograph: Jerome Favre/EPA

Edward Snowden's choice of Hong Kong as a haven from where to leak intelligence documents and to unmask himself as a whistleblower rests on calculations on the territory's press freedom safeguards and its extradition treaty with the US. It is a high-stakes gamble.

Just before sovereignty over Hong Kong passed from Britain to China in 1997, the US signed a new extradition treaty with the semi-autonomous territory. Under that treaty, both parties agree to hand over fugitives from each other's criminal justice systems, but either side has the right of refusal in the case of political offences.

Beijing, which gave its consent for Hong Kong to sign the agreement, also has a right of veto if it believes the surrender of a fugitive would harm the "defence, foreign affairs or essential public interest or policy'' of the People's Republic of China. In short, the treaty makes Snowden's fate a matter of political expediency not just in Hong Kong but in Beijing.

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Think Dr. Ronald Ernest Paul is aware that one of the most bravest American souls to have come along in years, one Edward Snowden, is possibly his own supporter?

Was NSA Whistleblower Edward Snowden a Ron Paul Supporter?

Well, considering the fact that his former Chief of Staff, Mr. AnCap Extraordinaire Lew Rockwell himself noticed, too? You can bet that Dr. Paul, if not aware already, shall soon be finding out!

Via Travis Holte: NSA Whistleblower a Ron Paul Supporter

*** Ron Paul: Constitutionally Correct, since DOB!



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assuming these a-holes literally recorded every-single

electronic communication in America, if not across the entire globe, and say that we actually delusionally buy into their unicorn rationale veil/fairytales for their numerous state-sponsored false flagged terrorist acts, and say that we actually delusionally buy into their characterization that ALL of these spying escapades are for 'our own safety and protection,' then here's a simple question for the delusional statists and their acquiescent bootlickers:

why the FcUK didn't all this spying stop a SINGLE terrorist act?

Doesn't this in fact, in a spectacular fashion, prove to even the most brainwashed sheeple dolt, that the entire national security state apparatus is an utter failure??

Rhetorical. I know.

Oh, and if your rebuttal is that NSA's illegal spying actually 'did stop' a supposed NYC subway plot, the timely coninkydink rationale touted by Rep. Mike Rogers (MI-RINO/NeoCon), the NDAA-signing, Fmr. FBI govt terrorist asshole whose wife literally works for the MIC, eager to become the next FBI Director, orgasmic over the prospect of having all those illegal panopticon toys at his disposal? Then, you are a bigger idiot than Piers Moron:

From AP, via DailyMail UK: NSA phone spying program FOILED plan to blow up New York City subway, claim under fire security officials NSA domestic spying program foiled 2009 NYC subway bombing plot

You'd think AP would know better than to prop up the State/The Leviathan, after finding out that they weren't part of the 'Club.' But alas, psychotic statists are gonna do, what psychotic statists are gonna do.

check out the self-important, delusional govt terrorist prick propagandize for the police state, fittingly, alongside Dianne Feinskunk:


http://youtu.be/z7TITaoguc0

Predictions in due Time...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zGDisyWkIBM

"Let it not be said that no one cared, that no one objected once it's realized that our liberties and wealth are in jeopardy." - Dr. Ronald Ernest Paul

updated: Guardian article added

Anyone NOT see the apparent irony of an American National Security State whistleblower, taking refuge in the Communist Fascist Nation of China's sole 'free' enclave of Hong Kong?

Edward Snowden's choice of Hong Kong as haven is a high-stakes gamble
NSA whistleblower's calculations over Hong Kong likely rest on its relatively liberal culture and sovereignty of Beijing

Julian Borger, diplomatic editor
guardian.co.uk
Sunday 9 June 2013 18.24 EDT

In comparison with mainland China, Hong Kong is an island of press freedom and political tolerance. Photograph: Jerome Favre/EPA

Edward Snowden's choice of Hong Kong as a haven from where to leak intelligence documents and to unmask himself as a whistleblower rests on calculations on the territory's press freedom safeguards and its extradition treaty with the US. It is a high-stakes gamble.

Just before sovereignty over Hong Kong passed from Britain to China in 1997, the US signed a new extradition treaty with the semi-autonomous territory. Under that treaty, both parties agree to hand over fugitives from each other's criminal justice systems, but either side has the right of refusal in the case of political offences.

Beijing, which gave its consent for Hong Kong to sign the agreement, also has a right of veto if it believes the surrender of a fugitive would harm the "defence, foreign affairs or essential public interest or policy'' of the People's Republic of China. In short, the treaty makes Snowden's fate a matter of political expediency not just in Hong Kong but in Beijing.

Predictions in due Time...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zGDisyWkIBM

"Let it not be said that no one cared, that no one objected once it's realized that our liberties and wealth are in jeopardy." - Dr. Ronald Ernest Paul