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Snowden's Greatest Fear

He said his greatest fear is that nothing changes.

His life is changed forever. He could have stayed on the down low in Hawaii collecting big paychecks, blowing it every night on booze and blow. But he didn't.

He donated to Ron Paul. He's one of us. How do we help him? How do we make sure his biggest fear is not realized? That nothing changes?

We have to reach beyond ourselves, our own small group and become part of a tidal wave, like the one in Japan, that washes over the entire Apparatus.

Time to activate the networks. Beyond the Ron Paul circle. Beyond the anarchist circle. Beyond the libertarian circle. Beyond the Republican circle. To everyone.

The first time I heard the chant, live and in person, was at the 1999 WTO protest in Seattle:

The people
Will never be divided!

Let's not allow young Snowden's greatest fear to be realized.

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Re- BUMP. Just because.


Just because.

"Cyril" pronounced "see real". I code stuff.


"To study and not think is a waste. To think and not study is dangerous." -- Confucius

We will know that we've eliminated criminal government elements

We will know that we've eliminated criminal government elements when Snowden can walk American streets and Assange can go home.

Free includes debt-free!

If this isn't the kick that

If this isn't the kick that we needed then I don't know what is. We all knew that this type of surveillance was taking place but most of us were ridiculed for suggesting that others be wary of their own privacy.

"If you haven't done anything wrong then what do you have to hide?"

That argument holds no weight now that the full scope of the surveillance state is in the public eye.

Let us all make every effort to bring this matter to the forefront in every way possible.

The politicians love to use crises to sway public opinion to their side. Well this is our opportunity to use this crisis to sway public opinion to our side.

The media is already trying to do damage control and they will try to fade this issue out as quickly as possible and point the public's attention elsewhere.

It's our job to make sure that this issue doesn't leave the public's eye. This is the one issue on which we have the best chance of bringing people over to the cause of Liberty.

Most people are not interested in taking the time to learn about sound money, free market economics, central banking, etc. Most people are too busy and too entertained to be concerned about the injustice of the illegal wars of aggression taking place in the Middle East and they are too busy to be bothered with the specifics of drone assassinations in Pakistan and the like.

And, prior to now, people were too busy to do their own research on the mass surveillance and the budding police state.

But now, thanks to Mr. Snowden, the word is out and it will require very little research for the public to become aware of the mass surveillance taking place.

And people will not be happy to know that their every phone call has been recorded, possibly monitored, and stored. They will not be happy to hear that their every text message has been recorded, possibly monitored, and stored. People will not be happy to learn that their every email has been recorded, possibly monitored, and stored. They will not be too pleased to know that their Skype conversations, gchats, instant messages, and any other form of electronic communication has probably been recorded, possibly monitored, and stored.

They will know and understand that this is un-American. Such surveillance violates every principle upon which America was built.
And the people will know that. They may not care to learn much about Austrian economics or how the Federal Reserve is destroying the currency. They may not care to learn much about classical liberalism and the tenets upon which this country was founded. But they will be receptive to the news that their own government is spying on them every day. It is now in their face and requires no additional research to understand how offensive this is.

So let’s do everything that we can individually to keep this issue at the forefront. We must not be invasive or aggressive in our endeavour but we need to make sure that everyone has the opportunity to learn about what Mr. Snowden has so courageously made known to all.

Mention this in casual conversation. Ask every friend and family member that you speak with if they have heard about this issue. Print out copies of the internet articles and leave them all over town.

Let us do whatever it takes.

Mr. Snowden, in my mind, is one of the greatest American heroes to
ever live. He knows very well the powers wielded by those he spoke out against but he did not let that deter him from doing what was right.

They will demonize him and in all likelihood kill him for his brave actions.

Let’s make sure that his bravery was not in vain and that his message reaches the masses.

And let’s make sure that 'they' know that if they do murder this hero, every single American will see the murder for what it is: an act of government aggression against an American hero working to better the lives of his fellow Americans.

For Liberty,

"The only tyrant I accept in this world is the still voice within." - Mahatma Gandhi

Well said!

Thank you, Liberty patriot!

A Constitutional, Christian conservative who voted for Ron and stands with Rand

Been thinking about this.

I think one of the best things we can do is stop bashing those who are just now waking up or who are not fully awake yet. Instead of saying, "See I warned you about this when you supported the Patriot Act!" maybe we we should be saying, "Well, though many people supported the Patriot Act because they believed it would help fight terrorism, it is now being exploited." Yes, Bush is as much to blame as Obama, but we will get nowhere by making people defensive. If we are to turn the tide here, we need everyone on our side that we can get.

We must build friendships and alliances with people of all views, and we have to help them see past the political divide that allows these criminals to be elected again and again. We may never be able to agree on gay marriage, abortion, or welfare, but we MUST try to draw them to our side on this issue because if this battle is lost, if we sit by and watch them trample the Constitution this time, it won't be long before all of our rights are violated without any attempt to even hide it.

This issue is clear

The politicians are either with us or against us on this issue. We should demand a yes or no answer. Do you support this program? Yes or no. We should support or oppose them based on their answer. If this is not stopped the rest doesn't really matter.


Eloquently stated, Michael

Lovely piece of poetry, and heartfelt thanks from me.

"Hence, naturally enough, my symbol for Hell is something like the bureaucracy of a police state or the office of a thoroughly nasty business concern." ~~C.S. Lewis
Love won! Deliverance from Tyranny is on the way! Col. 2:13-15

Michael, you are quite the poet,

so eloquently stated.

Here Here!

We must all be whistleblowers, in our daily lives. Our only choices are to teach and influence others, or to just let it all pass us by. Move on with our lives.

Luckily I know this crew well enough to have no doubt as to which path most here will take.

I'm no collectivist, but Michael is right when he says Snowden is "one of us". We all know what kind of person gives $500 to Ron Paul.

Don't let this die.

*Advancing the Ideas of Liberty Daily*

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Norfolk, VA

Time to INVESTIGATE the investigators of 9/11. PROSECUTE the prosecutors. EXPOSE the cover-up.

Thanks Michael

Shared on Twitter.
Also tweeted this quote:

"I can’t in good conscience allow the US govt to destroy privacy internet freedom & basic liberties for people around the world" -E. Snowden

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sometimes LL can suck & sometimes LL rocks!
Love won! Deliverance from Tyranny is on the way! Col. 2:13-15

Since "they" are reading this...

"they" should know that WE THE PEOPLE will not sit idly by and allow an authoritarian state engulf our society.

We are growing in numbers...

I believe what we can do to help Mr. Snowden is to be vocal every single day. Talk about what is happening every single day, with at least a few people. Wake people up. Organize. Work towards peaceful revolution.

And to "they" who are no doubt monitoring the DP...please trace me. Find my name. Build my file. Add me to your list. I am not scared of you!

Not living in fear and standing up for our beliefs is how we can help!


We the People Congress

I propose that we be the change we want to see. As I see it, there is plenty of "look how bad it is", "that is wrong", "woes with me", "lets protest", "lets boycot", etc.
What was awesome about Ron Paul's campaign is that we could point to what was wanted. Since then, it seems we have not had anything positive to rally around / work towards. Getting more people bitter at the state does itself not bring about the positive. Love begets love. Hate begets hate. Respect begets respect.
I propose We the People Congress and imagine and create what is wanted. Then as we rally and create that what is wanted, status quo will become less and less relevant. And that is the key point. "They" are relevant because we hold them to be relevant.
The change, I would suggest, we are looking for is mutual respect. So... I would suggest we respect the state and "the powers that be/were" for who they are (as unconscious/naive/delusional/egocentric/insecure/ignorant/criminal as they may be). Let us create anew upon the existing constitution, or enhance or craft a new constitution, and simply live by it. Let us create new town councils / states, and allow the exiting power structure to dissipate by becoming irrelevant. I get that the transition may be bumpy. But if we focus on being respectful, and appreciate that the principles of individual liberty are rooted in mutual respect, let us be the change we want to see. Let us congress and state what is wanted, rather than complain about what is, or dwell on what is not wanted...

None of the above will keep

None of the above will keep this kid out of prison. We need to show huge numbers are behind him or else down the rabbit hole he goes.

Out of Prison?

I'm not sure he is as concerned about going to prison as he is that nothing will change. "Showing numbers" to the existing "powers that be" only continues to make "them" relevant. It only empowers "them" more. Whether they imprison him, or not, despite our show of numbers, in either case, "they are empowered" by our show of their relevance. Personally I believe we need to move away from "group think". I believe it is prudent to return to respect of individual liberty... Not because there are so many of us that value individual liberty, but because so many of us live that, and have accordingly, taken responsibility to administer our rights in accord with the principles of law... not group think.

I agree with the "make them irrelevant" approach, but

What could be easier and more effective than simply canceling your cable tv? And nobody, not even even DP'ers, can manage to do that.

Have not had TV for over a

Have not had TV for over a year... The way the mainstream treated the Doc was the end for me.

None of the above will keep this kid out of prison. We need to show huge numbers are behind him or else down the rabbit hole he goes.

If we need to take to the

If we need to take to the streets... Stop working... March on DC... What ever it takes this guys actions need to be defended.

Liberty needs the support of the people like Mr. Nystrom, Kokesh, Jones, the Pauls, and all the others who have prominent stages. If these people could unite in a meeting great things could happen.

These people have a stage that could be used to organize and the minds to find solutions.

Pardon March coming soon? End the NSA march shortly after? Power returning to the people?

Just have to mention, Michael

that although not in person at N30 (a couple friends of mine went from NYS), the WTO protests changed my life: I was just becoming interested in politics while having joined the work-force and seeing thousands stands up to authority was very inspiring.

I also leaned left due to an anti-war position, but funny how Libertarian principles and true statesmen like RP can alter the course of history.



Snowden T-Shirts found here

I made it on cafepress just so I could buy one for myself.


What is required here...

is that each and every body reach out in your own communities. Pick a restaurant, post a few signs and take the lead. Print out some material, pass it around and discuss, much like that tea party group did before.

This works.

"What if the American people learn the truth" - Ron Paul

The public accepts it

Majority Views NSA Phone Tracking as Acceptable Anti-terror Tactic

Public Says Investigate Terrorism, Even If It Intrudes on Privacy


The following poll says exactly

the opposite, so I'm not buying into what I think is 'damage-control propaganda' (being your and other like polls):

59% Oppose Government’s Secret Collecting of Phone Records
26% approve
15% undecided

According to the article, the above poll was conducted June 6-7, 2013...

ETA: (None of the above is against you, limelemon)

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Ron Paul 2012...and beyond

It all has to do with the way the question is phrased

The Pew Research poll includes "investigate terrorism," while the Rasmussen poll speaks of "regardless of whether there is any suspicion of wrongdoing." How an issue is framed is key to swaying the public; as this matter plays out, you will hear Senators McCain and Graham constantly refer to "keeping us safe," while Senator Paul will keep saying "respect our rights."

A Constitutional, Christian conservative who voted for Ron and stands with Rand

Fully agreed

He gave up a $200K per year job in Hawaii and is now "on the lam" running for his life. All to help out the common good. If we don't do our best to get things turned around right now, how in the world can we ever ask anyone else to blow the whistle.

Now is the time to STEP UP our efforts.

more on Edward Snowden:

The Spy Who Loved Me: Linday Mills, whom Edward Snowden leaves behind... & NSA activates "Q Group" to hunt Him Down!

The Real NSA Scandal w/ Edward Snowden's Case: FULL 'Privatization' of the National Security (Theater) State!

Predictions in due Time...

"Let it not be said that no one cared, that no one objected once it's realized that our liberties and wealth are in jeopardy." - Dr. Ronald Ernest Paul

In the market people choose to be in control of their privacy.

MySpace was the leading social network with 100 million users, while Facebook had 24 million users. Today, Facebook has more than a billion users. The differing ways that the two companies handled privacy defaults was an important part of this story. The default settings on MySpace five years ago allowed everyone to see your profile.

Pew Research study found that 56 percent of consumers had decided not to complete an online transaction because of the data they were expected to share, and 30 percent had uninstalled an app from their phone over privacy concerns. So, yes, privacy matters to consumers.

75 percent of the consumers we surveyed in the U.S. and Europe said they wanted DoNoTrack on by default.


Government has unconstitutionally violated the 4th Amendment. People might not bite the hand that feeds them but people want to choose to be private and with whom.

But things have changed. Thanks to Snowden our ignorance is cured.

But the Full Court Press in on!

Updated June 11, 2013 - 1:12 AM EDT

LRC, Ron Paul, Andrew Napalitano, and last but not least us denizens of the DP.

The people of the many States demanded a Bill or Rights to go with a Federal Constitution.

We, also should consent to nothing less.

Will it be enough? It's what we've got.

Free includes debt-free!

Linda Cross's picture

people elect privacy that's why we have passwords

People have a choice to do business with , or not to do business with, based on the annual required privacy disclosure statements given by companies to their customers such as credit cards. I like your argument! Based on the fact that Americans always choose privacy, these polls have to be BS

If you see something, say something, the government is listening.
Silence isn't golden, it's yellow.

Passwords! That sums up the reality quite nicely!

Or locks on our doors.

If Lockmakers go out of business that would be a credible indicator that American have abandoned their desire for privacy.

Free includes debt-free!