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Name One Country That Came Back From Tyranny Really

I am waking up today to the reality that we really are in a beast grid police state that is driven by welfare takers (rich and poor -- i.e. $500,000,000,000 Farm Bill) that has become very difficult to invest in.

The NSA is no more than a taxpayer funded, super security system to protect the money and enterprises of data giants, banks and other related corporations. It will never change or go away in my lifetime.

The way I see it, the only rational thing to do is find another country to start over. It will be a long time before this infrastructure collapses. It's too globally wired to fall in the next 5 or 10 years.

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Cyril's picture

I can name one country that WILL recover from rampant tyranny

I can name one country that WILL recover from rampant tyranny poisoning Her:

The United States of America.

To be Born Again.

And I promise you She will.

"Cyril" pronounced "see real". I code stuff.

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"To study and not think is a waste. To think and not study is dangerous." -- Confucius

Sorry, but Germany is still beholdent to the Central Banks

and as long as the indentured servitude that the Ponzi fractional reserve lending and banks exert on humanity, there is simply no way to scape the tyranny. Bring the banks down and we have a chance.

beephree

What it means to love your country.

You can't just leave on your own. It's like jumping off of a sinking ship without telling anyone else that the ship is sinking. So there are friends, family, and other people you don't want to fall. You tell them to come with you, but they don't want to come with you, because they have friends and family. . .

You have to right the ship. There's too much at stake.

Michael Nystrom's fists can punch through FUD.

Germany.

Germany.

Croatia

They are looking great these days, relative to the Marshall Tito era.

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Rhodesia!

I mean Zimbabwe Zimbabwe Zimbabwe

The US came back from tyranny in 1776

Now, the individual states need to cooperate to rescind some Federal powers and/or begin the process of secession. The Federal government has gotten way out of control and probably cannot be redeemed in its current form. Tax money and all delegated powers need to be reclaimed by the states to starve the beast of sustenance.

(No subject)

My point is none have come back completely and

Two things..
1. 1913 was the end of freedom and beginning of nondiscriminatory slavery for all Americans (Federal Reserve/IRS Complex)

2. As technology spreads globally the data collecting will reach everywhere except those places you probably won't want to live into old age.

The places with the weakest governments (i.e. Chile, Argentina) seem to be the best at least for now.

Chile..

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I have a ten year plan. I will be living abroad once my child is an adult..

'Peace is a powerful message.' Ron Paul

The Premise Is Extremely Flawed ...

Who cares about the arbitrary label of a geographical territory when that label has nothing to do with who is in power? A so called country coming back doesn't quite address the issue. A more accurate question would be along the lines of:

In recorded history, name any dictator, individual, or group of people in power that have voluntarily reversed course from tyranny to liberty.

No other country in history

No other country in history was the USA.

The United States, in 1802, 1870, and 1921

The United States, in 1802, 1870, and 1921, to be precise.

In 1802, the Alien and Sedition acts were overturned, thus taking tyrannical powers away from the presidency.

In 1870, Virginia was at last readmitted to the Union as a state, thus ending martial law under Reconstruction.

In 1921, the various war preparations and powers acts from 1916-1917 were repealed, thus restoring private ownership of all industries and resources to their rightful owners.

"Cowards & idiots can come along for the ride but they gotta sit in the back seat!"

your name is quite apt, apathy-fighter

Chile

Chile

Argentina - twice I think

Russia, been there done that.
Germany, rather East Germany, been there done that
Poland, been there done that.
Romania, been there done that
Hungary, been there done that..

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Peru?Republic of Georgia?

They still have problems but they are no longer under totalitarian rule. Georgia is in the EU, however.

Georgia is a fascist drug dictatorship

Georgia is a fascist drug dictatorship, and the criminally insane powr-grabber and war criminal Saakashvili still hasn't being tried and jailed for his efforts to start WWIII in 2008.

"Cowards & idiots can come along for the ride but they gotta sit in the back seat!"

"It's too globally wired to fall in the next 5 or 10 years."

i cant disagree more. all it takes is for the rest of the world to abandon the dollar as the reserve currency. all they do is predicated on the dollar being "strong". but the farther they go, the deeper they get, the closer they are to reaching an inflection point where other countries cant get out of the dollar fast enough. and it has started.

the easiest way to get something done isnt to change the behavior; its to change the meaning of existing behavior. like a cut isnt a cut, torture isnt torture, its enhanced interrogation. war isnt war, its kinetic military action. declaring war now appare

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Dear OP, I beg to differ.

Dear OP,

I beg to differ. I darn well know what you're alluding to, as for the grand system design. Yes, it's ugly. Yes, it's impressive. Yes, it's scary. They have been very patient setting it up since 1913, if not earlier, I can grant you that. However, two remarks:

1. no fight is ever lost until you've been knocked out or you have surrendered;

(and yes, I know all the jokes on the French, the white flag, and surrendering; they are not that funny)

2. even I can think of a couple things that outstanding individuals could do to scare the hell out of the NSA and entire governments themselves, and game changer to turn the masses' minds in no time; and they know these feats are not impossible and they cross their fingers that nobody will ever get a chance to go for those. I can't say more.

But (2) is a bet with very poor odds to save freedom; (1) remains a must try, first, thanks to something very very few countries have anything even remotely resembling to:

your first Amendment.

Americans underestimate greatly its full power.

I can only beg the People to keep using it before it ever disappears, in turn.

Do you think I am brave calling the POTUS a TRAITOR and stating he deserves the rope for crime of treason?

No, I am not particularly brave. I am only informed.

That I have this MOST POWERFUL right.

YOU have it, too.

Keep USING IT to call it like it is, and have more people do the same, for your own sake, before too late.

Peace.

"Cyril" pronounced "see real". I code stuff.

http://Laissez-Faire.Me/Liberty

"To study and not think is a waste. To think and not study is dangerous." -- Confucius

France

A few folks had to lose their heads over it, but the French Revolution did back things off a bit.

I disagree

The revolutionary and then Napoleonic governments were orders of magnitude worse than the Bourbons. Despite a few libertarian reforms (abolishing the last of feudal privilege, e.g.) it was fundamentally a leftist revolution. It had more in common with the Bolshevik than the American revolution.

"Alas! I believe in the virtue of birds. And it only takes a feather for me to die laughing."

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In 1776 both sides had

In 1776 both sides had relatively equal arms technology and access. That's no longer the case today.

Only in Small Arms

Not until the rebels stole cannon from the British, trained a continental army in the European style with the help of Steuben, and enlisted the help of the French navy.

If you want to see what happened when the rebels went against the British as a rabble with small arms, look no further than the battle of Long Island. The result was that the British held New York until the Treaty of Paris was signed, ending the war. The British were *never* evicted from NY by force of arms.

Depends on how you look at it

Keep in mind that there are many in the military who'd take the side of the people should it ever come down to that situation again.

Further, and this is strictly opinion, I believe that 3D printing will help close the technological gap. It's not that hard to build anything from a 'super'computer to a UAV without spending a fortune if you know what you're doing. Finally, I also believe human ingenuity will eventually find a way to exploit any and all weaknesses in any given piece of technology.

...of course, those exploits will eventually be fixed...then exploited again..and so on. It's like two people coming back and threatening each other with increasingly larger 2x4s with nails in them.

A signature used to be here!

Really?

Does the United States ring a bell? Circa 1776.

Also Germany and Poland as has been stated below

Except the United States LOST


It is a complete myth that The United States ever won its Independence. It did not.

The Rothschilds Banking Dynasty has controlled this Country virtually non-stop, aside from just a few very brief periods (Jefferson ending the 1st Bank, and Andrew Jackson ending the 2nd).

By the mid-1800s, Philadelphia was no longer even the capital, and a new totally artifical District State (District of Columbia) under British legal control as their "Corporation" -- then became the new faux Capital of this Land (and the home of Congress and The White House).

If this Country were free, The U.S. Treasury would control the Nation's Money -- and not Goldman Sachs and Private Banks.

We did not defeat the Empire. The Empire just made us all pay their costs, for their Imperialism.


"By the mid-1800s, Philadelphia was no longer even the capital"

Philadelphia ceased to be the capital in 1800, not the mid-1800s.

"and a new totally artifical District State (District of Columbia) under British legal control as their "Corporation"

What does "British legal control" mean? And some evidence please.

"The Rothschilds Banking Dynasty has controlled this Country virtually non-stop,"

I'm well aware of Rothschild influence post-CFR, but have seen nothing concrete about their influence prior to the CRF. What evidence do you have?

"Alas! I believe in the virtue of birds. And it only takes a feather for me to die laughing."

It was always them...


First of all, Ben Franklin wrote about how the cause of the American Revolution was that the (Rothschild's) Bank Of England via King George outlawed the use of the debt-free Colonial Script currency which had made the Colonies prosperous (and debt-free). That change led to higher debt and taxes and unrest.

So The Revolution was not really about such trivial matters as a "Tax on Tea", or "The Stamps Act". It was about the loss of our whole Economic self-determination and control at the hands of The Bank of England (Rothschilds) and The British Empire - due to the currency switchover.

Secondly, after the First Bank of the U.S. (which was modelled after the Rothschilds Bank) was terminated, Nathan Rothschild then threatened us again -- and The War of 1812 was started. What was the result of The War of 1812? The Second Rothschild Bank (in this Country).

And of course, Lincoln was killed by the Banksters.

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