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Not Buying It - Snowden Puts New Spin On Old News

If you didn’t know that Edward Snowden is a fabrication by now, all I have to offer you is this…

Glenn Beck
I think I have just read about the man for which I have waited. Earmarks of a real hero. http://t.co/H63dlBdX2d

He was waiting all this time for a high school and community college drop-out who exaggerates his income and his military record and tells us nothing we haven’t been hearing since 2006? Is this Broke-back Mountain?

He’s a hero to the Glenn Beck clans and a hero to the Ray McGovern set… a hero on Huffington Post and a hero Reddit.

He’s a hero for hanging out in a high dollar hotel up the road from Hong Kong’s CIA offices and telling Glenn Greenwald nothing that hasn’t already been told to us by real whistle-blowers who live right here in the U.S. and you can talk to every day.

Oh wait… according to the Huffington Post, Snowden dropped another “big bombshell” leak on the world today!

Edward Snowden Drops More Bombshells
The Post reported that Snowden said that the U.S. government “had been hacking into computers in Hong Kong and [in China] for years.”

Lam also reported:
“Snowden said that according to unverified documents seen by the Post, the NSA had been hacking computers in Hong Kong and on the mainland since 2009. None of the documents revealed any information about Chinese military systems, he said … Snowden believed there had been more than 61,000 NSA hacking operations globally, with hundreds of targets in Hong Kong and on the mainland.” Huffington Post

Did you guys know the NSA and the CIA have been hacking China and other countries? Wow. Now that’s news! He must be legi…

Oh wait, no it isn’t…

At the Jamestown Foundation on the afternoon of Feb. 28, Hayden delivered a speech titled “China and the Cyber Challenge.” On that day, the Chinese military accused foreign hackers of an average of 144,000 attacks on China’s two military networks per month last year, and 62.9 percent of those attacks were from the U.S. A China Review News reporter asked Hayden if he believes these two nations are engaged in media warfare over some mere cyber issues or has cyber warfare really occurred between them, and how to respond to this kind of challenge.

Hayden replied that the media likes to take unpleasant things that happen on the Internet and call them “cyber attacks” or “cyber warfare.” This is inaccurate, misleading and sensationalized. He said he has personally always used the term “cyber espionage.” In no way should the behavior of spies be classified as “attacks” when this is a typical state activity. China Review News March 2, 2013

So former CIA Director Michael Hayden said he likes to call the attacks something else, but… yeah, he admitted the U.S. intelligence agencies have been hacking China.

But he is so heroic… I mean he gave up that $200,000 a year job in paradise where he never got a tan and left his whacked out “pole dancing super hero” girlfriend with no thought for himself..

AND he knows all the 10 year-old catch-phrases to use in order to buy himself credibility in the alternative movements …

“I will never feel safe,” he said. “Things are very difficult for me in all terms, but speaking truth to power is never without risk.” Huffington Post

“Speaking truth to power” Yep, everything else seems as sleazy and manufactured as a Christmas Fleshlight in a trailer park, but when he said “speaking truth to power” that did it for me. He has to be legit.

Now I see why someone as legit as Glenn Beck can’t quit him.


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It's Only News When it Becomes Common Knowledge.

Edward Snowden sacrificed himself to expose ongoing excessive Federal Government criminality. The government is vacuuming up and storing private communication data on every American citizen. How is that not criminal activity when it violates the supreme law of the land?

Joe, I got as far as GB...

Didn't need to read Glenn Beck either.

"Give a man a gun, and he could rob a bank. Give a man a bank, and he could rob the world."

It's telling that lawmakers and the MSM demonizes snowden

It's telling that lawmakers and the MSM demonizes snowden

the tell... is that snowden is not a plant or plan or whatever otherwise the narrative wouldn't be damage control.(at least in regards to snowden's character)

but still, the sheer fact the MSM is reporting on it means one of 2 things... they are losing the infowar and this is damage control(which i think is what's going on)
or 2. the snowden leak wasn't planned but is being used to push some other, more shady, issues

Tools of war are not always obvious. The worst weapon is an idea planted in the mind of man. Prejudices can kill, suspicion can destroy, and a thoughtless, frightened search for a scapegoat has an everlasting fallout all of its own.

All good questions

Question everything, even Edward Snowden... if Glenn Beck is reporting on it, be wary.

Is Snowden real or not, and either way, what is the MSM pushing... you know they have their earpieces in, taking orders, to hide things, and promote other things.

I could buy it except for one thing that is the big test for me-

CNN has been trying everything it can to divert attention away from it. They spent a whole day covering the riots in Turkey when the Snowden story was the biggest story out there. They are trying to downplay it by moving less talked about stories to the top lead.

Why isn't NSA letting Snowdon

Why isn't NSA letting Snowden go free since he hasn't leaked anything new. Also, just because it is old news doesn't mean it is right. Why wan't dropping out of high school a problem when he was hired, but a big issue when he leaked? Anyway, this isn't about Snowden leaking. It is about NSA spying illegally.

The government

Must have retarded monkeys running the show if they're deliberately bringing this to the public.

By your logic we should expect them to provide documents of select individuals they've been tracking just to show the extent of their surveillance. That'll really show us who's boss...

Yes, you're right that this is old news, but is it popular news? No.

Lets look at this logically.
1. The majority watch the MSM
2. The MSM rarely mentions this topic or whistleblowers

It's only old news for people who actually care to find it.

It is old news.

But most people haven't been paying attention. For whatever reason, this has gotten their attention. I see no down side. I see no way that this helps the PTB. If this is some kind of psy-op, I'd say it's backfired.

"Alas! I believe in the virtue of birds. And it only takes a feather for me to die laughing."

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My 2 cents Joe,

If what he said/revealed was "old news" half the politicians and cable news media in America wouldn't be puckered, pissed, and calling for his head.

There must be something there.

I get you

But there seems to be a pattern developing...whereby every time there's a scandal, the media brushes it off the front page with another scandal.

Why wasn't this promoted? https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=eaTv...

It just FEELS manufactured.

I think it's possible they're going to use this to stage a big false flag and blame "the internet". They work in stages, they set the stage with one "event", then build off that with another.

We've should all know this.

"If this mischievous financial policy [greenbacks], which has its origin in North America, should become endurated down to a fixture, then that government will furnish its own money without cost. It will pay off its debts and be without debts. It will hav

It's not a pattern....

Damage control has become an art form to these people. They turn the most damning evidence into good sound reasoning to continue. Its absurd but there it is... at every turn.

Maybe there is a silver lining.... in order to become good at something you have to do it a lot. As good as they are at damage control, its just that. Even when controlling damage, your just controlling it (your still taking some damage) and they are doing damage control more and more. The damage they cant control is credibility and credibility is being lost day by day. Most importantly, credibility is their trump card. We (people who question things and smell the problems even if we can see them) are looking less like the kooks every time they cover up. People who used to think, "man, they would never do that" now say "yea maybe they would". There is a tipping point, they are afraid of that tipping point and with this release we get a lot closer.


"A cynic is someone 'who knows the price of everything
but the value of nothing'" -- Oscar Wilde

Skepticism is one thing,

Skepticism is one thing, being fucking clueless is another.

I must be willing to give up what I am in order to become what I will be. Albert Einstein


The Liberty movement, which I have enthusiastically been a part of for the last 7 years, is so desperate for a hero, they'll forget all past betrayals (Beck, Jones, etc) and lap up whatever is fed them.

I understand the reason for this, but it still makes me sad. Skeptism is healthy, especially when we're all aware of what the ruling class and their minions are capable of pulling off.

"If this mischievous financial policy [greenbacks], which has its origin in North America, should become endurated down to a fixture, then that government will furnish its own money without cost. It will pay off its debts and be without debts. It will hav


but remember that this is coming to light through Glenn Greenwald. He does very good work and, judging from afar, he's about the only one I see who has a shed of credibility in this. Also, it's not the only evidence of this going on.


has been good in the past, but how do we know he's not being played in this as well? Don't forget, he's making money, and he's never offered any "leaks" regarding 9/11.

All I'm saying that that we should approach this event as critical thinkers, and not blindly devoted sycophants.

"If this mischievous financial policy [greenbacks], which has its origin in North America, should become endurated down to a fixture, then that government will furnish its own money without cost. It will pay off its debts and be without debts. It will hav

Greenwald Quit A Constitutional Law Career

To become a columnist writing on civil liberties.

He has proven himself to care about things much more important than money.

"Bipartisan: both parties acting in concert to put both of their hands in your pocket."-Rothbard

he seems

a bit too smart to be a sucker, plus he said they have been getting ready for this for awhile and he's gone over lots of the documents, supposedly. I think it would be hard for him to be duped all the way along by snowden. He could be full of it though for other reasons. I remember reading in the Mitrokhin Archive that the Guardian once had KGB plants working there in the past before they were exposed. It could be some disinformation stuff, but I have a feeling it's not. Watch him speak. He's driven by the content. You watch politicians speak and you can tell they have something else going on in there heads. Greenwald is hitting this story only. If he's duped, it would have to be because someone is exploiting his passion for this. That's my opinion anyway.