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Sen. Mike Lee: Huge problem with Amnesty bill: All implementation, enforcement etc., taken from Congress given to Executive

Senator Mike Lee (R-UT) spoke out against the “Gang of 8” immigration bill. Many complain the bill puts amnesty ahead of border security, but Lee says there are bigger problems in the bill. Even if the border security part is strengthened, Lee claims four other parts remain weak.
The bill limits Congressional oversight of the executive branch, which allows the branch to enact the new laws in their preferred method. Congress is held accountable by the citizens and this bill keeps both out of the loop on immigration.

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Michael Nystrom's picture

Yeah...

I'd say that's a problem.

The only way to make sense out of change is to plunge into it, move with it, and join the dance. - Alan Watts

yes..

thanks for bumping this back to the frontal lobes :)
and I'll repeat my thoughts on this
with this link:
http://www.dailypaul.com/288875/rand-votes-for-cloture-to-br...
concerning Rand Paul's vote for Cloture
pushing and rushing this gang of 8 bill to the floor.

Michael Nystrom's picture

I hear you. But anyway

He's playing a game, and that game is constrained by rules. You have to play within those rules if you want to get where you want to go.

There was another article floating around here that put some good perspective on it. Here, read this:

http://www.dailypaul.com/289469/nyt-tea-for-2-rand-mitch-in-...

Also that New Republic article that is floating around.

I'm not defending it, just observing it and understanding it.

The only way to make sense out of change is to plunge into it, move with it, and join the dance. - Alan Watts

'scratch my back, I'll scratch yours alliance'

yep... I could never do it.. makes me ill.
reminds me of:
'The newly elected go to DC intending to clean up the septic tank of corruption...
and find out it's a hot tub.'

fireant's picture

I blame the Pubs just as much as the Dems.

For over 20 years they keep pretending there is some legislative action which will solve the border issue, when in fact, it is the Executive branch which has full Constitutional authority to secure the borders, and it could be done overnight. Have any of the Pubs bothered educating their constituents accordingly? NO. They had 8 years with Bush and went along with his overseas incursions rather than actually securing our own country first. All save Ron Paul. They can whine all they want, but it's their own damn fault. I even had my Rep tell admit to me in a town hall meeting that it would work to put the guard or army on the border, but they probably weren't able to because they were stretched thin in Iraq.
Let's be clear; this is an Executive Branch responsibility.

Undo what Wilson did

while the border

isbordered controlled by the Feds, except Texas they have a patrol as well. Implementation, money etc. for the Amesty bill is the business of congress, not the President.

fireant's picture

Yes, but they are arguing now to put some legislation in

which will secure the borders, which is not a legislative function, and distracts from the fact it is the President's job. The only stance the pubs should take is fold arms and debate no immigration policy until the border is secure. They have control of the "House" and the purse strings. What they lack is testicles.

Undo what Wilson did

securing

the borders is just a trick, to make amnesty look good.

Who cares about the borders, giving amnesty is irresponsible.

This will be the final demise of the Constitution.

"The law would put the Secretary of Homeland Security, a position not elected by the people, in charge of immigration. Lee points out that last year the government published over 82,000 pages of new rules and Congress never saw them. This bill would only make it worse."

No question will BIOMETRIC IDENTIFICATION be implemented, as Ron Paul has and is WARNING.

ALL Reps, senators and congresspeople MUST be contacted in every way possible to OPPOSE this crap.

"What if the American people learn the truth" - Ron Paul

The Constitution is done

put a fork in it if this monstrosity passes. We must call everyone we know to stop this.