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Doctors Dump Health Insurance Plans, Charge Patients Less

Doctors Dump Health Insurance Plans, Charge Patients Less

UPI 6/15/2013 3:56:04 AM
WICHITA, Kan., June 14 (UPI) --

A Kansas physician says he makes the same income and offers better quality care to his patients after he dumped all health insurance companies.

Thirty-two-year old family physician Doug Nunamaker of Wichita, Kan., said after five years of dealing with the red tape of health insurance companies and the high overhead for the staff he hired just to deal with paperwork, he switched to a system of charging his patients a monthly fee plus the price of an office visit or test, CNN/Money reported.

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the more the merrier!

remove all these middleman leeches.

"If Tyranny and Oppression come to this land, it will be in the guise of fighting a foreign enemy." -- James Madison

I would not doubt that the

I would not doubt that the government will shut that down! They lose their control over YOUR HEALTHCARE! I know this has been going on for years. But, it is going to be shut down. Wait and see!

fireant's picture

Not if we don't let them!

This may be the issue which stirs people to act. There is nothing more personal than one's health care, and for the goobermint to step in and say we can't have this would be a step too far imo. Maybe I'm just projecting or dreaming. I do know that if we let them do that, we are hopelessly destined for a long march into an ugly and bloody form of fascist socialism.

Undo what Wilson did

Further proof that the only single payer you need

Is you


AMEN To That sleepdog!

Love the good doctor... Imagine how much better off we would be IF we had Ron Paul in the "Oval Office"

ChristianAnarchist's picture

We have a small clinic and we

We have a small clinic and we may someday go to cash too. The main reason for the "monthly" charge is to become an established patient so that we can have your health history for better treatment. Unlike the "government" we only want this info so that we can better treat what your conditions are. It's a big benefit to the medical staff when they are dealing with someone with a known health history so that things like allergies and persistent high blood pressure do not get missed resulting in a very bad treatment outcome.

Sure, we could just charge "per visit" (and we do for some cash pay patients) but the cost per visit will be higher this way. Certainly we will see someone on a one-time basis for cash but the resulting office visit will require more time and that of course would result in a higher bill. It's quite amazing to us in the health industry how people will go out every Friday for a meal and drinks ($100?) but complain about being charged $100 in order to take care of their health. Which is more important to you??

Beware the cult of "government"...

Why can't I just pay when I NEED to see a doctor?

Why this persistent practice of trying to get me to pay no matter if I use the service or not?

This doctor's scheme is certainly better than insurance, but not by much.

fireant's picture

If we had a free market in health care,

we would have a wide variety of choices, including this type arrangement.
Actually, I think this is far better than a third party insurance company. If the doc is good and service ok, I'd certainly look into it were it offered in my area.

Undo what Wilson did

What happens...

If you get injured and don't have accident insurance? If you get an appendicitis, Viral pneumonia, etc., it would also be another expense that you would be responsible for. Problem is, playing without insurance puts you at risk. The hospital bill, and all of the labs, X-rays, and such, in the hospital, would not be covered.

Good doctors can't, really, see more than thirty patients a day. If there is a doctor shortage, it would cause, even more, problems. There are, also, many doctors that treated chronic pain, that have, also, been removed from the medical market. I guess we can all be seen by foreign graduate doctors! They can kiss butt and play good politics, so they are not in danger of being judged by overzealous medical boards!

Practicing "cutting edge medicine" is frowned on by some medical cliques. It makes the other doctors look bad! Can't have that!

fireant's picture

In a free market, we would have the choice of carrying

catastrophic insurance only, and pay cash for regular visits, my preferred arrangement.

Undo what Wilson did

Yes, it is far superior to insurance.

I wanted to make the point thought that the default mindset of paying regardless of usage needs to be addressed.

If my only options were insurance or this, and I was forced via threat of arrest to do one or the other (which Obamacare does not do) then I'd pick this method.

Personally though, I'd rather pay for what I use and need when I use and need it.

fireant's picture

On another note, I never give my SS number.

They always say they HAVE to have it. I just ask if they are going to refuse service if I don't give it. That always shuts them up. Since I pay cash, what the hell does it matter?

Undo what Wilson did


You could be one of those bad doctor shoppers! The government will have the doctor's license, if they find out!

fireant's picture

I'm at the point of choosing arrest if it comes down to that.

Actually samadamscw, you can pay cash for service now, even though the system is not set up for it. You'll get strange looks from the clerks, and they won't know what price to quote you. I have found most docs end up charging much less on a cash basis.
Anyway, there comes a point when you have to take a stand. I will not sign up for any federal mandated health care, period, and I will not pay a penalty or "tax" for not doing so. If it means going to jail, so be it. It's my line in the sand.

Undo what Wilson did

then, don't use this dr.

to each his own

Christians should not be warmongers! http://www.lewrockwell.com/vance/vance87.html

I agree. I'm just using the story to illustrate the point.

Certainly, this is a very free market approach that I support.

This is such an important business model

cutting out the govt, insurance companies, not to mention the crap the CDC, and , the soon to be Obamacare will be spewing out, not to mention, these doctors wanting to get back to Prevention.
Their price comparison chart and web page are a must see:

Thanks, emalvini! This is info I can really use!

And here's a video on their concierge or VIP service, which is a little more expensive.


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