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Guardian Exclusive #2 Today: GCHQ intercepted foreign politicians' communications at G20 summits (Snowden leaks)

In addition to the NSA targeting Medvedev specifically (which was exclusive #1 today), British intelligence was targeting other politicans and officials who attended the G20 summit in 2009:

Foreign politicians and officials who took part in two G20 summit meetings in London in 2009 had their computers monitored and their phone calls intercepted on the instructions of their British government hosts, according to documents seen by the Guardian. Some delegates were tricked into using internet cafes which had been set up by British intelligence agencies to read their email traffic.

The revelation comes as Britain prepares to host another summit on Monday – for the G8 nations, all of whom attended the 2009 meetings which were the object of the systematic spying. It is likely to lead to some tension among visiting delegates who will want the prime minister to explain whether they were targets in 2009 and whether the exercise is to be repeated this week.

The disclosure raises new questions about the boundaries of surveillance by GCHQ and its American sister organisation, the National Security Agency, whose access to phone records and internet data has been defended as necessary in the fight against terrorism and serious crime. The G20 spying appears to have been organised for the more mundane purpose of securing an advantage in meetings. Named targets include long-standing allies such as South Africa and Turkey.

There have often been rumours of this kind of espionage at international conferences, but it is highly unusual for hard evidence to confirm it and spell out the detail. The evidence is contained in documents – classified as top secret – which were uncovered by the NSA whistleblower Edward Snowden and seen by the Guardian. They reveal that during G20 meetings in April and September 2009 GCHQ used what one document calls "ground-breaking intelligence capabilities" to intercept the communications of visiting delegations.

This included:

• Setting up internet cafes where they used an email interception programme and key-logging software to spy on delegates' use of computers;

• Penetrating the security on delegates' BlackBerrys to monitor their email messages and phone calls;

• Supplying 45 analysts with a live round-the-clock summary of who was phoning who at the summit;

• Targeting the Turkish finance minister and possibly 15 others in his party;

• Receiving reports from an NSA attempt to eavesdrop on the Russian leader, Dmitry Medvedev, as his phone calls passed through satellite links to Moscow.

The documents suggest that the operation was sanctioned in principle at a senior level in the government of the then prime minister, Gordon Brown, and that intelligence, including briefings for visiting delegates, was passed to British ministers.

Read in full here: http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2013/jun/16/gchq-intercepted-co...

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So....our politicians are

So....our politicians are terrorists then

Unmask the NSA

I think I know why Snowden exiled himself to Hong Kong.
As he reveals more and more of this entity called the NSA, we are going to eventually say..."You are one ugly motherf...er".
Something like when the "Predator" took his mask off.
I think this is why Snowden left the U.S.
He will slowly reveal more and more over the next few weeks, and we will understand more then....Ouch, Ykes, Yuck...
NSA is one ugly....mother f....er.

I dunno,


I think they're uglier than that. ;)

Just open the box and see

The book Edward has written

The book Edward Snowden has written so far is amazing, trust me. He chose the best venue within to write it and he has plenty of time on his hands to finish it. It will be the best seller of all time worldwide rivaling The Bible, believe me.

Cell phone manufacturers need

Cell phone manufacturers need to install a direct on/off power privacy switch connected directly to the battery, especially on phones with embedded batteries. This is so government employees can't remotely activate the camera and microphone in communication devices.

Say I'm banging my women friend and I don't want some government employee in their cubical getting off listening into my jam secession?

The first cell phone manufacturer with this feature I will buy from.
Until then, I don't keep my phone in the same room as my jam secession room.

He shouldnt have leaked this.

He shouldnt have leaked this. This is typical intelligence crap that everyone does. It has nothing to do with Americans' civil liberties. This one migth actually be treason.

Ventura 2012

are u mentaly ill

by your comment you appear to have a mental illness.

Let me break it down for you. The Us Military has recorded every click of your mouse or keyboard every cell phone call you have made. What do you say. Well I really dont see nothing wrong with that but we should hang the guy to made us fully aware of this theft of this invasion, of this unconstitutional unlawfull act.

So you got to be insand. Not just because of your very ignorant stupid comment but because you actually think anyone could ever agree with you.

Your comment was actually vile and evil to me. To the extent that I must block you so I can prevent from ever seeing a thought that you try to communicate.


Um, Im talking about the

Um, Im talking about the posted article you halfwit. Which is about wiretapping foreign diplomats not US citizens...

Ventura 2012

Without resorting to vile name calling, let me ask you...

What doesn't the CIA do that we need the NSA to do, as it relates to foreign affairs?

“It is the food which you furnish to your mind that determines the whole character of your life.”
―Emmet Fox

What does the G20 have to do with the 4th amendment?

Espionage, to the level of hacking and following people in other governments is essential, especially in closed societies like China.

Goodness gracious, could you

Goodness gracious, could you sound more like Peter King?

Are you Peter King?

Serious question.

Grow up.

Grow up.

Ventura 2012

What's wrong? Have you run

What's wrong? Have you run out of hollow criticisms? Empty witticisms?

"He shouldnt have leaked this. This is typical intelligence crap that everyone does. It has nothing to do with Americans' civil liberties. This one migth actually be treason."

Seriously, Bmore, help me understand you. Because that? That sounds like consecutive bullet points from a neocon talking points memo. I ask again: Are you Peter King?

Now, you don't have to take my advice, since you're clearly intent on appealing to emotion rather than reason, but here it is anyway: Perhaps... just perhaps... you might try offering some substance to back your neocon talking points.

Any substance.

Just a suggestion.

We all await your wisdom with bated breath.

realist vs knowing nothing with zero experience

Believing the intelligence community is a required necessity in the world today doesn't make you a neocon. Yeah you can spin exciting conspiracies theories but the reality is the world is not a stable place. All war and all the chaos isn't due to "the Rothschilds".

The liberty movement needs intellectuals, academics, professionals, people with real experience that can offer libertarian-based solutions.

The exact opposite of most of the Daily Paul.

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When you're ready to proffer

When you're ready to proffer a cogent argument outlining the necessity of the surveillance state in its current form, addressing both the benefits as articulated by its advocates as well as the drawbacks articulated by its critics, we'll be here to sift through your deeply considered point of view which leads to such a conclusion.

Until such time, please spare us your entirely empty apologetic nonsense, you vapid piece of shit.


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Your one reason of many that

Your one reason of many that cause people not to post here. You don't even know what you are talking about. I find more enlightened libertarians on tech forums, people with actual articulate well reasoned thoughts.

If DP represents the average libertarian, then we are doomed.

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Uhhhh this is foreign

Uhhhh this is foreign surveillance of government officials. Peter King wanted to arrest Snowden for leaking info of surveillance of AMERICAN CITIZENS which is unconstitutional. Totally different. Have a little respect for someone who's been here fore 5 years, jeez.

Ventura 2012

Tenure is immaterial. What a

Tenure is immaterial. What a ridiculous thing, to invoke tenure as though it has bearing on the substance of the question at hand. I care not whether a member has been here 100 years or 1 month; it has no bearing on the substance of the matter. You're not helping yourself one bit with this response, Bmore.

But you would do well for yourself if you'd address the questions posed by a fellow DP member here: http://www.dailypaul.com/289338#comment-3108789

I'll quote them:

I was just wondering...

As a none American, are the truths not self-evident that I have been endowed by my Creator with certain unalienable Rights?

After all, is it not true that when those words were written, those who wrote them - like me - were British subjects?

Does a border dissolve the self evident right to privacy or justice?

Is there any excuse I could render to you that I have a lawful right of access to YOUR papers under UK law?

Your response?

1000 words in you address the

1000 words in you address the substance of what I said! All governments spy on each other, it is Constitutional. Point to the Constitutional provision that states otherwise. That doesn't mean it is moral.

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Perfect timing

With the G8 summit this week. Obama is going to have a rough week.

yah but since its a meeting of mostly all if not all

War criminals who are all members of the same Rothschild counterfit debt mafia.

Its quite appropraite. In reality each and everyone of the despots are very aware that they are spying on each others opperation. Its their protocall.

So IMHO this crisis and its being alowed on the MSM indicates that this one is a front distraction from some other greater crime they are pulling.

I am not saying that this is a important crime and a huge violation to humanity.

I am saying they (ZIO-ROTH Mafia & head minion IzUnReal) are doing by far worse and have planned to do by far worse.


leak creep

Well this will surely stop everyone else from spying on everyone else.

I support Snowden but I don't support him talking to China about the US hacking abilities or exposing the NSA for spying on Russia.

Am I wrong here?

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Wrong is a bit strong, but

Wrong is a bit strong, but yeah.

First off this isnt about the US, it's about the UK. The US shows up as a cameo (in relation to Medvedev) but the story is about the UK.

Second, US or UK, inviting all your allies to a 'summit' and then going to such efforts to spy on their accredited diplomats and representatives is actually not something everyone does, it's quite scummy behaviour in fact. If I dont badly miss my guess I would say it probably broke several UK laws as well as the relevant international law.

You really seem to be buying into the us-against-the-world-anything-goes mentality that makes americans look bad around the world. Even with your enemies (and remember, China isnt an enemy, they're our biggest trading partner) you expect a certain amount of decorum, and we would be (rightly) outraged if one of our diplomatic delegations was treated this way. Yet we (and the UK, apparently) do it routinely and you are worried about it being revealed?

It's not the revelation that's the problem, it's the fact it was being done in the first place. The people who signed off on this 'at the top levels' should spend time in prison for it.

China being our biggest trading partner does not

preclude it from also being our enemy, which it is.

It's clear that PRISM is

It's clear that PRISM is unconstitutional and thus illegal.

If the NSA stopped spying on other countries, they'd still be spying on the US. Power abhors a vacuum right? If the US is no longer the world's superpower, who will be? China?

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"If the US is no longer the

"If the US is no longer the world's superpower, who will be? China?"

The fallacy here is the implication that there has to be one.

Contrary to neocon fantasy, the world neither wants nor needs a superpower.

The Chinese give no indication of seeking that status, and if that changed? So what. Let them spend themselves back into the dark ages trying, it wont help them anymore than it has us.

It's a legitimate problem

It's a legitimate problem that should be addressed. Just saying the world doesn't need a superpower is naive.

You say that now but what if China became the superpower? What if the renminbi became the world's reserve currency? What if the world moved towards a more Chinese-style form of politics?

If you think this is impossible, read history! People are not angels.

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If the Chinese currency, for

If the Chinese currency, for instance, were widely adopted because it was convenient and stable, then I'd say good for them and be happy to take it, though I would still prefer gold or silver. Dont forget that the US existed for a long time with no mint, simply using Spanish dollars. The world has too many centers for it to move with a single leader. The US attempts to be that single leader as a result always inspire resistance and simply eat away at us in terms of blood and treasure.

If the Chinese are foolish enough to try and take that role after we come to our senses and return to the foreign policy of the founding fathers, then let them. That would ensure the eventual fall of the Communist regime, which is fine with me too.

(And in all honesty, pay attention to China, not to what US Politicians say about China to scare you, and you would see that the chances of them making that mistake are actually pretty low. It's an authoritarian regime, but not a particularly stupid one, and very much the opposite of suicidal.)


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And it's coming.