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Police trainers gleefully sing and dance as they train police to kill the public with weapons of war (updated).

This is some kind of surreal sick comedic distopian alternate universe that we have found ourselves struggling to understand. This video is not portraying a military outfit. This is portraying a POLICE FORCE. Singing and dancing while they demonstrate some kind of disturbed orgasmic pleasure showing off the weapons of WAR they are training with in order to engage you and I, the general public. The "uptown girl" in the video looks a lot like Oklahoma's Governor, Mary Fallin, which is very fitting, considering her policies, and the context of the video. Watch it. Just watch it. I cannot explain to you how insane I think this is. Is this your tax dollars at use training your police to GLEEFULLY assault you with military weaponry?

Filmed at the Alliance, Ohio police training facility, funded by the drug war and even the DOD.

http://www.alliancepolice.com/training-shooting-facility

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6foDFXs1uyU

[I updated the title and description to address more accurately the nature of the video after my error was pointed out by other readers.]

UPDATE: OK. So maybe I over reacted about this video. I'm a bit jumpy with regard to this kind of stuff anyway...I tend not to give the state the benefit of the presumption of innocence...and I think that's OK.

I apologize for any hyperbole that was born out of my immediate reaction to the video.

I still find the overriding context of the video disturbing.



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This was filmed at the

This was filmed at the Alliance, Ohio police training facility.

"The building will be contructed primarily of used railroad ties purchased with proceeds of forfeitures from drug investigations from the railraod [sic]."

So it's funded by the drug war, with the obvious intent of training police to carry out the drug war.

http://www.alliancepolice.com/training-shooting-facility

This police force also has an armored personnel carrier donated to them by the Department of Defense. Wonderful.

http://www.alliancepolice.com/armored-personnel-carrier

EAG tactical are the people in the video

http://eagtactical.com/

They didn't get the proceeds from that. That vehicle in the video isn't even theirs apparently. Not to mention it's a decom apc from the 60's. Not exactly top of the line military equipment. I have no problem with police using ONE, but regular people should be able to own them too.

OH WAIT:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vvkLaa9bogU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OVH4ORI_kOs

Hell it's so damn old they use it in museum demonstrations:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RQ_qWfyLVFE

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See update

See update

Thank you

Much better post, and a very arguable position.
Changed my vote from down to up.

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lay off the crack pipe already...LOL

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I "second" that motion! That headline was totally misleading!!

Based on the headline, I was expecting props of "ordinary citizens" to pop up as "practice targets"....or something to that effect. But the "actors" in this video were merely dressed in combat gear and some were holding weapons. But there was ZERO evidence that they were training to "kill the public". No evidence, whatsoever!! As a fellow member of the Daily Pail, I encourage you to go ahead and post video links here in the future. But PLEASE keep it accurate! If there is ONE thing that Daily Paulers despise, it would be blatant "deception".

Robby Lane

Even a cursory investigation

proves this post to be a bit sensationalist.

EAG tactical is a training facility in Ohio, they do training for military, civilians, and police. This isn't a private police training facility. Though they probably do cater to them.

The people in the video are all employees and the owner.


http://youtu.be/T_-9cICE9cg

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oh. that makes it all ok

oh. that makes it all ok then...I mean, after a cursory investigation and all...

Yeah it pretty much does

Cursory means it was not a thorough or detailed one. Which means it's pretty obvious your post is sensationalistic nonsense.

There are training facilities all over the country run by small business men that cater all sorts of people. It appears your problem is with people who own firearms and those that train with them, not the police state or the militarization of police.

One of the biggest private trainers in the United States is run by an avowed and outspoken libertarian (James Yeager). There is nothing wrong with what they're doing.

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Yes there is. When they are

Yes there is. When they are taking tax payer dollars (taken by threat of the use of these tactics against the taxpayer) to train police to use those tactics to aggress against people who have not victimized anyone (ie drug offenders or tax non-payers). Or to lock down a city (ie Boston). There is definitely something terribly wrong with that. I don't know how anyone could think that there is not something wrong with that.

Fail boat

Most private trainers don't get paid by contracts. They gain most if not all of their money from police, military, civilians that pay for it themselves. Neither of us can even know that because we can't see their ledger. If they did take contracts, who cares? That's a government problem, not a small business problem. Do you bitch at the small farmer making videos of him on his farm if he takes farm subsidies or let's the government buy his products? The insinuation that this was your argument is laughable.

Your whole post doesn't even address this issue. Your argument is sinking under the weight of scrutiny and now you are changing the subject to avoid admitting you made a mistake.

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My post was made within the

My post was made within the context of the ever increasing police state we are seeing take shape. To me this video was a surreal insult to the seriousness of the fact that our police are being militarized.

The issue is that the militarization of our police is not a thing to sing and dance about.

And yes I bitch about the farm subsidies too...but...farmers are not training to kill us (GMO poison argument aside).

How?

It's a small business, they can sing and dance if they damn well please. I enjoy shooting and have fun doing it. Just because these private people happen to train police gives you no reason to make these kinds of insinuations about them. It's reminiscent of the sick hit pieces the MSM has done of gun owners. Hell, your whole "weapons of war" bullshit is taken directly from them.

If you don't like guns or people training with them, fine, whatever. Make a post that has balls enough to say that. But don't for a second think someone won't call you out for dressing up your argument to look like something else. You either didn't know these people weren't police and are lying now, or you have a problem with people training with and owning firearms.

You insinuated these were cops singing and dancing while thinking about shooting innocent people. That's your whole ridiculous thought. Just because someone has a gun, enjoys shooting it, and has a little fun while doing it, doesn't make them evil.

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For me it was the word

For me it was the word "POLICE" emblazoned across the front of the armored vehicle that kind of gave it away. But I probably misread it. It might have said "POLITE" or something all freedom-y and libertarian.

Fall to irrelevant quips

That's all you can do now that you've lost the argument.

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I see your point. I just

I see your point. I just don't agree with it. I don't think that means I've lost the argument. I just don't agree with yours. You can be the winner if you want.

You've already made some characterizations of me that are inaccurate, and the effort to set them straight isn't really worth it.

I don't agree with the glorification of the militarized police that this video portrays. I don't care if the cops pay for the training with their personal money, or use the donations they collect in boots on street corners, even if they don't use a dime of tax payer money they still end up using the training for oppressing and killing people.

I don't think its a subject to joke around about. It's not like I want to pass a law against it or something (people making videos glorifying the militarization of the police), I just find it morally repulsive, particularly in view of much of the public policy we are forced (by people trained in these tactics) to abide by.

If the law was limited to enforcing actual justice, then I'd probably be singing along with them, but as it stands, it's not.

It's not worth repeating myself.

You'd think you'd have the sack enough to admit this

This video is not a military outfit. This is a POLICE FORCE. Singing and dancing while they demonstrate some kind of disturbed orgasmic pleasure showing off the weapons of WAR they are training with in order to engage you and I, the general public.

was wrong.

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Ok, so I should have said

Ok, so I should have said that the actors in the video were not portraying a military outfit, but a police force.

I stand by everything else.

Just remember...

When police own ARs they are weapons of war. When Obama tries to ban them, they are not.

They even gave their names. I

They even gave their names. I bet their home addresses can be easily found on Google Earth. They did seem to have some decent rhythm though.

Alliance, Ohio only has a population of about 22k.

Wondering why they need all that military type of equipment.

Even people who kill for a

Even people who kill for a living can have fun!
(Even people who execute innocent civilians without consequence can be dads!)
(Even presidents who give orders to burn children alive for their religion can win DAD OF THE YEAR)

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Really Stupid

Seriously, this is why I get upset with looking at post on the daily paul... These guys were just having fun putting a little skit together, yet they might have been, police/military... at the end was just a basic mag change and room clearing... Military does this and police do this... Don't word it that they are trained to kill public like this is some sort of big conspiracy video that needs to be leaked out or something. I am prior military and now a proud Libertarian.. I really wish people would stop posting stupid posts on this page!!! Seriously, don't post anymore ignorant things on this page... thank you....

Sensationalizing The Title

gives the OP views and attention.

Actually no, this is a sick

Actually no, this is a sick perversion of law enforcement. A glad handed smack to the face of the public that's forced to pay for this insanity. Combine this with the draconian drug laws that serve as the poor excuse for the use of this military hardware against peaceful people, and you have a totally asymmetrical and immoral manifestation of a military police state. Not ignorance, not fun, and when you consider the laws these guys are out "enforcing" the conclusion is yes, they are training to kill the public, with song and dance even.

Yes Ignorance, On Your Part

After further investigation it turns out this is NOT police but a private company that trains police. They are not wasting tax payer money and are free to sing and dance as they please, as are you.

And I'm free to find it

And I'm free to find it disgusting and post about it. So I did.

Yes You Are

but you should get your facts straight because your post is either ignorant or a sensationalized lie for attention. This video is not "Police gleefully sing and dance as they train to kill the public with weapons of war.".

It was ignorance, I admit it.

It was ignorance, I admit it. And I updated the post to correct. I still find the video disturbing in its true context.