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The Argument to Repeal the Seventeenth Amendment of the Constitution

One of the less known and more controversial moments in the history of the Constitution of the United States was the 17th amendment of 1913. It birthed what some claimed was a more fair and accountable political system, and what others called Unconstitutional, tyrannical, and the removal of the voice of the States at the seat of government.

Out of the 17th amendment’s history came a movement to repeal the seventeenth amendment and return to original Constitutional law, and of course, a movement that supported the new plan for electing Senators.

The original words of the the Constitution that are affected by the Seventeenth Amendment are in Article 1 Section 3, and read:

“The Senate of the United States shall be composed of two Senators from each State, chosen by the Legislature thereof, for six Years; and each Senator shall have one Vote”


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fireant's picture

Very good article, but there is more...

The power of the People, expressed solely in the "House" by design, has been diffused, thus weakened.
They keep us chasing issues in one house then the other, changing things around, then changing them again in conference.
It is not an accident that the "House" likewise holds the purse strings. At this point, I think it would be better if We simply ignore the Senate, and focus all our attention on the "House".

Undo what Wilson did

The 17th amendment dissolved

The 17th amendment dissolved the Senate and created another House of Representatives.

The balance of power in the bicameral legislature was between the direct representation of the people (the House) and the direct representation of the people's state governments (the Senate).

After the 17th Amendment, the state's lost their representation on the federal level, and the people lost the ability to direct the Senate through their more accessible state legislatures.

fireant's picture

Well stated and precise.

I'd vote you up a dozen times if I could.

Undo what Wilson did

I like the 17th Amendment

six feet under ground, buried by a 28th Amendment.


Repeal the 17th

If we repealed the 17th Amendment, Barbara Boxer and Diane Feinstein would be out!

They're the ones putting huge burdens in the form of unfunded mandates on the California legislature which they, in turn, make themselves unpopular by heaping on local governments, and eventually the taxpayer (rain tax!).

If they had to be accountable to their own legislature, they'd spend a lot more time at home, trying to solve local statewide problems, instead of coasting on their PR before an ignorant public.

What do you think? http://consequeries.com/

What if the 16th & 17th were foist upon us? Law that never was?

Alice in Wonderland

17TH AMENDMENT When Bill Benson toured the capitol of every state existing from 1913 & collected evidence that not a single one had actually & legally ratified the proposal to amend the U.S. Constitution. Thirty-three states engaged in the unauthorized activity of altering the language of an amendment proposed by Congress, a power that the states do not possess.

Since thirty-six states were needed for ratification, the failure of thirteen to ratify was fatal to the Amendment. This occurs within the major (first three) defects tabulated in Defects in Ratification of the 16th Amendment. Even if we were to ignore defects of spelling, capitalization and punctuation, we would still have only two states which successfully ratified.Alice curtsy to the Queen

17TH AMENDMENT More of the same failure.

16th & 17th AMMENDMENTS are law that nver was. Are the original documents are disappearing from the national & state archives?
Alice in Wonderland

Disclaimer: Mark Twain (1835-1910-To be continued) is unlicensed. His river pilot's license went delinquent in 1862. Caution advised. Daily Paul


The 17th amendment was specifically designed to put decisions into the hands of ignorant people.

This is not to degrade people, ignorance ins't stupidity. Most people are involved in their own lives, as they should be. With the MSM able to sway and even project the public opinion they want, the 17th amendment was perfect to gain control of the country. As evidence of that, I submit current events. ;)

But, if the 16th and 17th amendments were passed without ratification (as seems to be the case), how can that be defeated? "The People" have had no real power for a long time now.

The government has officially thrown off the cloak of "we the people".
They kept "we" and turned "the people" into subversives and terrorists because "the people" don't support what "we" do.

Just open the box and see

Nullify action based on what never happened.

Nullify. Cease & desist. Stop.

Pause & reflect.

Disclaimer: Mark Twain (1835-1910-To be continued) is unlicensed. His river pilot's license went delinquent in 1862. Caution advised. Daily Paul

The 16th & 17th? Why must you repeal what never was?

The Money Trust (Where your money went).

USA Theatre of the Absurd: Who in this theatre is convinced that 3 quarters of the states of their "More Perfect Union" dissolved their nation in 1913?

  • Money of gold & silver dissolved into a system of credit, the Federal Reserve Note, 1913? A paper promise to pay? Never ending revolving credit?
  • War Tax on personal income? The coming Great War? Pre-war tax? A reviled tax on their own labor? A despised tax? Mythical national debt? Debt paid with said-same debt? Sold to pay for a war "over there"... that we pledged to stay out of?
  • Senate dissolved into oblivion? A "More Perfect Union" dissolved into a stateless mass?

Pretending the 17th Amendment: What Is ... Behind the 17th Amendment? Submitted by Jim Brown to Daily Paul, 05/26/2010.

The Fed Summary: Fed Inflates Itself Beyond "Alice in Wonderland"$2 Quadrillion Submitted by Mark Twain to Daily Paul, 03/03/2010.

Disclaimer: Mark Twain (1835-1910-To be continued) is unlicensed. His river pilot's license went delinquent in 1862. Caution advised. Daily Paul

I say


It's time! Rand Paul 2016!

"Truth, Justice, and the American Way!"

17th amendment bump!

The popular elections of the senators neutered the states of their constitutional influence in federal government. Big mistake!

and while we're at it...

..repeal the 16th and the 22nd as well.

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