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Can you be closed border and libertarian?

What is the libertarian justification for closed borders?

Is the justification, "The goals I seek to achieve through government would be foiled by a more open immigration policy"?

Is that a libertarian justification?

If you don't stand on your principles, someone else will.

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whose property??

whose property is the migrant stepping onto by freely traveling, unmolested, across arbitrary government delineated lines? does the government own the land, is the border a boundry limit for government property?

My comment states clearly: "my property".

I haven't had a migrant step onto my property recently. Truth is though, that I live close to the arbitrary government delineated line between what are arbitrarily referred to as Minnesota and Manitoba. The border there is a boundary limit for jurisdiction. "Open" and "closed" remain undefined as of yet in this post, and I'm not really sure yet what anyone here means by these terms. My general impression though, from surmising what might be meant by these terms thus far, and what I have to go through when crossing into Manitoba [and back], is that the jurisdictional boundary limit to my close north is a relatively closed border, both ways. As such I don't find many Canadian migrants on my property. Neither do the Canadians find many American migrants on theirs.

I really don't have much of an opinion regarding how people in Texas [AZ, NM, CA] protect their property, but I am in support of those there who attempt to do so...

There will always be an economic demand from immigrants...

for property. As more people refuse to service that demand, the price for such an immigrant to buy property will increase thereby attracting people at the margin to meet the demand. Therefore, a free market will have open borders even while respecting private property.

I think John Robb was

I think John Robb was specifically referring to trespassing.

One group of people I definitely don't

want trespassing on my property is Federal Immigration Agents.