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Michael Hastings Death Suspicious?

This appears to be video of the after-math of Michael Hasting's car "accident" and death. He was driving his Mercedes-Benz and somehow ended up hitting a tree and the car exploded. Apparently he was driving really fast. But I thought people drove a Mercedes because they are "like a tank". I don't normally do the conspiracy angle, but this really does seem kind of odd.

http://gawker.com/gruesome-video-appears-to-be-aftermath-of-...

Here's another video which MAY show him speeding before the wreck. Just seems kind of odd.


http://youtu.be/gNhqKRugk8Q

Then there's this from WikiLeaks; WikiLeaks just threw some gasoline onto the conspiracy fire. On Wednesday night, they Tweeted: “Michael Hastings contacted WikiLeaks lawyer Jennifer Robinson just a few hours before he died, saying that the FBI was investigating him.”

http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/timstanley/100222652/wikil...

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sharkhearted's picture

Important article about this possible assassination...

By Paul Joseph Watson:

http://www.infowars.com/evidence-indicates-michael-hastings-...

~Chris
Norfolk, VA

Time to INVESTIGATE the investigators of 9/11. PROSECUTE the prosecutors. EXPOSE the cover-up.

GENIUS PULLS UP TO BURNING CAR !

And we wonder why local govt. can't help us.

Hypothetical Scenario

"Okay Michael, you have two choices. 1, we kill you in a, "car accident," or 2, we fake that you died in a car accident (so people learn how to stfu) and you and your new identity comes to work for us with a handsome salary, free air travel, free booze, and plenty of free hookers. Take your pick, 1 or 2."

When faced with a real life or death situation, which would you choose?

Would you say, "Give me Liberty or give me death?"

Or would you bow down to the dark side?

A or B? There is no C.

Never be afraid to ask simple questions.

Do you know how many times the guys a "Myth Busters"

tried to make a car do that ? Check out their back shows.

It is hard to imagine a more stupid or more dangerous way of making decisions than by putting those decisions in the hands of people that pay no price for being wrong.
Thomas Sowell

Seems like suicide to me.

It seems curious to me that nobody is talking about the possiblity of suicide.

Alex Jones and others are putting forward stories that Michael Hastings was assassinated by the CIA or FBI. I don't think anything so sinister occurred. If somebody had tampered with his brake lines, why wouldn't he simply try to drive onto sand or into the ocean to brake?

To me, it appears that Michael Hastings intentionally drove at a high rate of speed and crashed his car into a tree. Why else was he out at 2:00 AM driving his car? Maybe he was drunk and coming home from a bar, but why was he was driving so fast? If you are drunk, wouldn't you drive slowly not to attract attention that would give authorities reason to pull you over?

After reading the email

I would have to say, after reading the email sent by Michael Hastings hours before his death, this does not seem to be the writing of someone who was intent on suicide.

Email Sent by Michael Hastings Hours Before His Death

That's a distinct possibility

That's a distinct possibility also. Lacking evidence, it would be unwise to completely rule out simple explanations.

There are only

three ways people die, homicide, suicide and natural causes. The police must investigate this as a homicide first (they can rule out natural causes). They MUST eliminate homicide. Less than a week later, the police are being reported to have determined this is an "accident." It's impossible for them to make this determination this early in the investigation, unless they aren't going to do an investigation.

LOS ANGELES (KTLA) — The crash that killed journalist Michael Hastings was ruled an accident by police, but conspiracy theories continued to circulate on Friday.

http://ktla.com/2013/06/21/exclusive-hastings-sent-colleague...

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An extremely active, controversial, bulldog of a journalist...

Who brought down the corrupt General Stanley McChrystal

Who just weeks before the Guardian leak, wrote about widespread surveillance in the NSA...

Who, according to the LA Weekly was about to publish a scathing report on the CIA...

Who, according to Wikileaks attorney Jennifer Robinson, had contacted him just hours before his death, that he was being investigated by the FBI..

Who, has been a robust exposer for years of the shadowy forces that control our government and the corporations that have bought them out....

Who....by the way....DOES NOT DRINK.

The "suicide" idea is so ridiculous for an individual like this, it bears not mentioning.

Cars don't explode like this, unless an incendiary device (bomb) is attached to the gasoline tank.

There are many, many mysterious deaths like this and more. All you have to do is look. See below:

http://www.infowars.com/evidence-indicates-michael-hastings-...

~Chris
Norfolk, VA

Time to INVESTIGATE the investigators of 9/11. PROSECUTE the prosecutors. EXPOSE the cover-up.

A Study of Assassination - CIA (1953)

Well this is creepy-
http://www.gwu.edu/~nsarchiv/NSAEBB/NSAEBB4/ciaguat2.html

Automobile accidents are a less satisfactory means of assassination. If the subject is deliberately run down, very exact timing is necessary and investigation is likely to be thorough. If the subject's car is tampered with, reliability is very low. The subject may be stunned or drugged and then placed in the car, but this is only reliable when the car can be run off a high cliff or into deep water without observation.

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how bad is the tree he hit?

how bad is the tree he hit? By the looks of the car there should no longer be a standing tree, has anyone seen the tree he hit?

    Here's your answer ~ mod

Self parking cars + internet access= remote control car???

I'm not saying this is what happened, but if they can't do it now, how long until they can?

BMW Connected Drive - Self-parking car
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xu9VM_Ln938

Mercedes Benz Internet Access
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eIJkQPbaeBY

boston brakes

the boston brakes": assassination technique developed in boston
a technique in which microchip transceiver's built into cars (mostly after theft and recovery)override the steering column and braking funtions causing seemingly out of control accidents
drift, powerslide, and or skid marks are all commonly found in cases involving the "boston brakes"

If they can't do it now?

The CIA has access to technology we still only dream of. They could have done that ten years ago.

Not saying for sure the CIA hit the guy, but it wasn't amateur hour, that's for sure.

He was either hit, or there is such a stinking pile of coincidences that we should all join hands, sing Kumbayah and question existence.

Yes, cars can be remote

Yes, cars can be remote controlled, BUT, they have to be set up for it with physical equipment. The worst someone could do is to turn your car off. We arnt yet to the point where they could disable your brakes and that sort of thing.

To climb the mountain, you must believe you can.

Mercedes has a black box

Electronic Data Recorder. Hopefully Buzzfeed will be able to publish any info gleamed from it.

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My only question is...

...will they ship the car's steel to China prior to the investigation?

How can people assume Michael Hastings was driving?

There is no evidence of that.

Furthermore how could Buzzfeed issue a statement of death as a FACT when there was no autopsy and the remains were supposedly so charred that the autopsy was scheduled for next week? How would Buzzfeed know he was in that crash? Is that proper journalism? Shouldn't they preface their statement with 'suspected of dying in car accident?'

If you're interested in another very different alternative theory feel free to read my post:
Who is Michael Hastings?
http://www.dailypaul.com/289800/who-is-michael-hastings

9-11 Media Fakery: Did anyone die on 9-11?
http://www.cluesforum.info/

http://www.septemberclues.info/

9-11 Actors:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6aPvJSQtmoE

Pysops.. media.. actors.. propagandists... disinfo agents.. fake videos.. fake photos

Good point!

How is it that all the media sources are jumping on this wagon? The cabin was fully involved and it will most-likely require dental records to identify an occupant. Unless, of course, this was one of those special "magic fires" like that one at the Pentagon...it can evaporate a 40-ton airplane but leave human tissue alone so it can be DNA tested!

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BC
Silence isn't always golden....sometimes it's yellow.

"The liberties of a people never were, nor ever will be, secure, when the transactions of their rulers may be concealed from them." - Patrick Henry

Without divulging too much about myself here....

I used to drive race cars both professionally and amateur. I have crashed and seen high-speed crashes up-close...I understand the physics of what happens during instances such as Mr. Hastings'.
Although I see conspiracies in EVERYTHING, I do not see a bomb in this incident. The drivetrain was torn from the car because the impact was well off-center (to the passenger side of the hood ornament) leaving the drivetrain, still going 100mph, an easy exit path through the radiator...the front U joint sheared off and let the gearbox go, still bolted to the motor. The fire erupts from the still-spewing fuel lines that were just torn off the injection pump and the sparks from rubbing metal. Mr. Hastings most-likely died from what so many do in front crashes, basal skull fracture. Basically, the car stops from 100 to zero in a matter of 2 or 3 feet (the amount the car crumpled) and his skull was still going 100mph. It hyper-extends forward and upward during impact, disconnecting the brainstem from the bottom of the brain. This is what killed Dale Earnhardt...I have also, sadly, watched 2 people die this way...one who was a good friend. The fire didn't kill Mr. Hastings.
The BIG question is, WHY was he driving this way? Was he being persued? Is this a Princess Diana scenario all over again? I'm sure that the media will tell us he was drunk and that the car was full of beer bottles or something...I rather doubt that, but this car crash, to me, appears to be driver error.

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BC
Silence isn't always golden....sometimes it's yellow.

"The liberties of a people never were, nor ever will be, secure, when the transactions of their rulers may be concealed from them." - Patrick Henry

Thanks for the excellent

Thanks for the excellent information.

Yeah, I've read some others

Yeah, I've read some others say the same thing. The thing about being chased is that on the cop-cam nobody is seen racing behind him.

good post

The real question is why would he run that light at a major intersection? Even in the middle of the night, it'd be extremely dangerous.

Hopefully the cameras will be able to show if he was being chased, or some cell phone record indicating why he'd be driving like that.

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New Times subordinate LA Weekly throws CIA into the mix:

Michael Hastings Probed the CIA Before Fatal Hollywood Crash

By Dennis Romero Tue., Jun. 18 2013 at 10:48 PM

Michael Hastings, the Buzzfeed writer who appeared to have died in a fiery Hollywood crash early today, had reported extensively on the CIA and was rumored to be continuing work on that beat at the time of his demise.

That Hastings had the Central Intelligence Agency in his sights is no surprise to those who knew his work. In March he gave what could now be seen as an eerie interview to Current TV about his recent Rolling Stone coverage of a CIA operative, Andrew Warren, who grew to believe he was being followed:

He started drinking heavily. He started abusing these drugs, Xanax and Valium, he started hearing voices. He believed he was being followed. He might have actually been being followed. Maybe, probably not, you don't know. It gets into this very strange ...

"Well, he's CIA, he might have been followed," says host Cenk Uygur.

Hastings: "He might have been followed for sure. For sure."

H/T: InfoWars

Is Journalist Michael Hastings a Victim of Obama’s Assassination Policy?

Kurt Nimmo
Infowars.com
June 19, 2013

Update: Michael Hastings was working on a story about the CIA prior to his death, according to LA Weekly. “That Hastings had the Central Intelligence Agency in his sights is no surprise to those who knew his work,” writes Dennis Romero, adding that “the shadowy world of intelligence and off-the-record American aggression was a favorite topic of the journalist.”

Predictions in due Time...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zGDisyWkIBM

"Let it not be said that no one cared, that no one objected once it's realized that our liberties and wealth are in jeopardy." - Dr. Ronald Ernest Paul

I think most people who'd

I think most people who'd know would say it's ridiculous to think that the CIA would have killed him. The CIA doesn't work that way. Of course, that's not to say a CIA agent or private contractor wouldn't kill him but never the agency itself and not as any USG policy.

Even Hastings said that when you go against the powerful, they typically try to destroy your reputation as opposed to anything violent.

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Riddle me this

Why then would the CIA have an assassination manual? Someone wrote it out of boredom?

“Although it was the middle of winter, I finally realized that, within me, summer was inextinguishable.” — Albert Camus

and... who would those statist zombie "most people" be??

you say this like you know from 1st hand knowledge:

The CIA doesn't work that way. Of course, that's not to say a CIA agent or private contractor wouldn't kill him but never the agency itself and not as any USG policy.

Do you?

So a CIA agent or contractor carrying out the orders of the agency is NOT the agency itself flexing its muscle?

Are you being semantically facetious??

LOL

So, you say that "it doesn't work that way", but that's not to say that they don't? So you actually mean, they DO, DO it? No?

LOL

In fact, for the first time since the Church Commission hearings, it IS in fact CIA's policy to assassinate, despite Gerald Ford's Executive Order banning assassinations.

In my anecdotal encounters with people, most people's image of CIA or other govt blackops is hyper TV/film versions (not to mention, probably most other things in life they've never personally experienced or activities they participate in) of hitman walking up to a target, every time.

Human bodies are very fragile; there are millions of ways of ceasing it to function...

Just who do you think has been running GWB and oBUSHma's Drone assassination programs?

It ain't the DoD. It's been the CIA & contractors.

It is naive to think and irresponsible to claim that CIA doesn't assassinate, at this juncture in history.

Do you even know whom NSA dispatches to actually 'hunt' down their own?

The "Q Group"

You know who they hire? Guys like Michael Janich, publicly known former NSA & guns and knives expert, and Kelly McCann, another former NSA operator.

People truly have NO IDEA how pervasive influences from the likes of former SOF and the REAL "special operation forces," 1st SFOD-D operators, are in American society, let alone the fact that FBI embeds one of their own in EVERY SINGLE major metropolitan police departments in American cities.

The worst part: the FACT that many of these former and present NSA operators are publicly known in tactical training circles, and are public info to anyone willing to research this topic.

Yet, it seems that most Americans, and apparently a few here, still cannot accept the obvious reality.

This whole empire is f'ng out of control; there's only one trajectory for such tyrannies: collapse.

The only question is how well will you individually cushion the fall, surf, ride, or evade it, the best you can while figuring out a way to outlive the bastards.

Predictions in due Time...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zGDisyWkIBM

"Let it not be said that no one cared, that no one objected once it's realized that our liberties and wealth are in jeopardy." - Dr. Ronald Ernest Paul

Wayne Madsen is not a credible source

Source that the Q Group assassinates people?

Source that the Q Group is affiliated with Janich who seemed to serve in the NSA in the 80s or early 90s?

The CIA drone program was targeting suspected terrorists. Now it's the DoD and both operate with significant bureaucracies.

And I was referring to people who worked in the military or the intelligence community, who have direct experience with agencies like the CIA. They would dispute everything you said (and Wayne Madsen, who is akin to the Weekly World News).

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anyone who doesn't know who Madsen is, or claims that

he's not a credible source has no idea what they're talking about, and is not a credible person to me.

"The CIA drone program was targeting suspected terrorists. Now it's the DoD and both operate with significant bureaucracies. "

Oh, you mean like Awlaki's 16yo son, the "suspected terrorist"? Oops, even CIA admit he was NOT a suspect. Seriously, you still buy their LIE that they actually "target" "suspected terrorists"?

Really? No, Really? Like Really??

Besides, anyone who cannot see the self-contradiction in this:

I think most people who'd know would say it's ridiculous to think that the CIA would have killed him. The CIA doesn't work that way. Of course, that's not to say a CIA agent or private contractor wouldn't kill him but never the agency itself and not as any USG policy.

I'd question their discernment skills, let alone rhetorical verbal comprehension.

Your statement basically says that 1st you say in referring to an arbitrary third party: "I think most people who'd know," then without qualifying ("sources"?!!!) who they are, you proceed as IF to presume you are one of those people in 1st person but state in 3rd person: "would say it's ridiculous to think that the CIA would have killed him."

Question is, are you CIA? Have you worked with those in CIA?

Then you proceed with built-in syntax contradiction: You first assert hat "CIA doesn't work that way" as if you 100% know. Then, you say: "Of course, that's not to say a CIA agent or private contractor wouldn't kill him but never the agency itself and not as any USG policy." As if CIA is some inherent animate object whom if it orders its employees to carry out the directorate's orders, they're not actually carrying out those order on BEHALF OF the CIA.

The only thing you expose in your above statement is to lightly allude that you personally know people in CIA or those who've worked with or in the CIA. (I care not either way, whether you do or don't) Then you contradict yourself by saying they don't assassinate, but they do, via their agents and contractors.

Right. Because employees carrying out orders of their agency employers isn't the agency itself doing it?

As for the rest, StartPage.com them. I'm not gonna spoon feed you.

"Q Group"'s existence is not in doubt. Just what do you think an armed group of NSA agents tasked to hunt down one of their own do, use soda-straws and nice language?

The fact you've never heard of Janich or McCann tells me you know very little about their world. NSA's primary task is codes. Janich and McCann's employment with the NSA is not in dispute. You can track down their publicly available bio yourself. Their background is non-computer paramilitary. Just what do you think they did?

Um, like DUH much??

Tell you what, You first:

And I was referring to people who worked in the military or the intelligence community, who have direct experience with agencies like the CIA.

Seeing as how all I got are publicly available sources, tactical instructors whom I've been in contact with, please, enlighten me, show us your CIA or intel community "sources."

Then we'll talk. Good?

Good.

Predictions in due Time...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zGDisyWkIBM

"Let it not be said that no one cared, that no one objected once it's realized that our liberties and wealth are in jeopardy." - Dr. Ronald Ernest Paul

Madsen has claimed

Madsen has claimed extraordinary stuff in the past and nothing comes of it.

My point simply was that if a private contractor or CIA agent killed Hastings, that the Director of CIA and the DNI would not know about it. And it'd be from orders of a private entity not a government bureaucracy.

My sources are anecdotal. And I have no real connection to anyone special.

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