Fred Heads Turning to Ron Paul!
Submitted by hawkiye on Thu, 01/24/2008 - 00:36This was posted on another site Looks like some folks are considering Dr. Paul since Fred quit. Welcome to any Former Fred Supporters! Dr. Paul is in for the long haul so come on in the waters fine!
http://trailblazers.beloblog.com/archives/2008/01/thompson_q...
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FredIn08ORDeathin09
Even fox is reporting on it, cnn too. The deciders have decided. I am going over to Ron Pauls campaign now
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AHHHHH!!
This is a sad day.
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I am going over to Ron Pauls campaign now
I think I'll join you. I don't see much of another choice. I know we all like to bash RP, but he is the closest thing to Fred out thier.
I have taken a look at the other candidates and they are a bunch of freaking democrats.
McCain with his gun control and wanting to give illegals amnesty, Romney with more gun control, forced health care and other socialist ********. Huckabee is a socialist, wants to outlaw smoking, soft on crime. is broke and a freak. Rudy is a RINO and belongs in the democrat party. It seems like we have democrats running as republicans.
Mark Levin's pet lizard
Yes, a sad, sad day. It appears the only viable alternative candidate to Hiltlery is Ron Paul. I suppose I'll head over to his camp.
AHH I CANT BELIEVE THIS. WHAT THE HELL FRED?!?!
ahh.
Now there is only one real conservative left in the race. I cant believe this. After mocking and bashing ron paul for so long, hoping to bring his supporters over to our side, I AM NOW FORCED TO JOIN HIS SIDE!
Well, here I come Ron Paul. I hope we can compromise on foriegn policy...
bucko158
Hello Fred Thompson Supporters,
I am a Ron Paul supporter, formally a Fred Thompson supporter. I wanted to invite everyone hear to check out Ron Paul. You may not agree with him on all the issues, I don't. But, he is very similar to Thompson in many ways. Both are very honest and say what they mean.
Now that Thompson has stepped out and Duncan Hunter stepped out on Saturday, Paul is the only fiscal and moral conservative left.
McCain, Huck, and Romney are spenders and Rudy is all over the map morally.
Please check out Ron Paul's site. He isn't Fred Thompson, but he is a real conservative. The only one left in this race."
















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After one week, you will see what we have faced for a year now and understand why the News channels always say his support is "limited" to the Internet. And hopefully you will come to realize the efforts the grassroots across this nation have been able to accomplish are truly a part of American History.
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I just met a big Fred
I just met a big Fred Thompson supporter a couple days ago who heard the news that Mr. Thompson was going to drop out. We were talking about real estate and then we was showing me his immense gun collection and our conversation moved then to 2nd Amendment issues and politics. He then expressed his concerns with the other candidates and said that he's thinking about supporting Ron Paul. I then mentioned to him that I was also a big Ron Paul supporter and have been one since May and it appears we now have another member--and a very wealthy one too!
Welcome Fred supporters
Our condolances and empthathy with Fred's mother and a very warm and kind welcome to the Ron Paul team. Most people with RP are decent, honest and conservative people, just like with Fred's team, so you will feel at home soon. There are a few rude spammers, but they are only a very small minority. Let us all have fun together, kicking McCain's, Huckabee's,
Romney's and Giuliani's a..s back to where they belong: the big government Democrats.
Fred is indeed a very solid, kind, sincere man with consistence, just like Ron Paul. Apart from McCain-Feingold and some foreign policy issues (which could be overcome over time), there are many similarities in policies: the Goldwater-Reagan tradition! Fred Thomson did not indicate that he wants to be a running mate when he pulled out, and did nto endorse someone yet. I could see Dr. Paul having him as either a running mate or appoint to his cabinet: he has a lot of talent (legal and otherwise) that can be used well.
Invite your Fellow Fred-supporter over.
Apart from similar positions with regard to federalism etc., both also have more or less the same worthy style and gentleman. They have also never been involved in any clash during the debates and sure there must be a lot of respect (also good old time conservative value).
Welcome again and enjoy, have fun!
I also disagree with RP on Iraq, but he is still the only choice
4 years ago, RP's Iraq stance may have been a deal-killer for me. But that was when Al Qaeda controlled the Sunni population in Iraq and Fallujah, Tal Afar and Mosul were Al Qaeda cities. Read www.strategypage.com to see that the world is a lot different today then it was in 2004.
Also, 4 years ago Bush had not signed McCain legislation regulating the Internet in two important ways:
1) Federally mandated background checks for Internet dating
2) Creation of a credit card age check barrier for being able to view half the sites on the web
Only the federal court system can save us from McCain/Bush now and we have no idea who Roberts and Alito are except that the MSM hinted they might be pro-life (but being pro-life doesn't necessarily say anything about being pro-individual liberty).
My brother and father were Fred supporters.
They will support whoever wins the GOP nomination. It is my firm belief that is Fred had never entered the race, he would have won the nomination, hands down. Before he entered the race, he was doing great. To all the Thompson supporters, Welcome to the Revolution!!
As candidates drop out...
...their supporters will have to re-evaluate and give the remaining candidates another look. True conservatives will be left to choose between McCain, Romney -- both of which are quite liberal -- and Dr. Paul, the only true conservative in the race. They can sell their souls to stay in the war or they can forget about the damned war and stay true to everything else they believe in and choose Dr. Paul.
When it gets down to two men -- our guy and whoever, of course -- the media will not be able to censor Dr. Paul and the networks won't be able to exclude him from any debates or polls or whatever, so he'll become a household name. Once that happens, I believe we'll have a real shot at the nomination.
Fred would have been my second choice
Although I think his foreign policy ideas were nuts and he was weaker than I'd like on personal liberties, I think that Fred was a good fiscal conservative who would have been my (distant) second choice out of the Republican field. Although they will have to work out some disagreements, I think the FT supporters will find themselves right at home here in Ron Paul Nation in no time.
The things I liked about Fred I also love about RP - he's fiscally conservative, is a "straight talker", and has a reasonably good history to prove he stands behind his principles. If we concentrate on some of those things when talking with our Fred-Head friends, bringing them into the fold should be no problem.
i like fred as well!
and i know there is rumor of him looking for a veep position...maybe the good dr. would consider him?!
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RP Reinforcements!..Welcome!
Fredheads know how to recognize the "winning team" (RP Republicans), huh.... :D
"In circuit motorsport, a driver has..."Paul position" when he or she starts a race at the front of the grid."
I was a FREDHEAD at first
and then discovered Dr. Paul last July. I made the switch over and it was because Dr. Paul is more conservative than Fred is, but Fred Thompson was still my second choice.
Fred is an alright guy..
Was the only one, besides RP, that didn't want to make me "puke" listening to republicans during debates...
a ringing endorsement if I ever heard one!
;-) ...yes, but I get your point...
but first,I just wanted to say, I really feel empathy for any Fred supporters. I know how devastated I would feel if in your shoes. We all put so much heart and soul into what we do. Hold your head up for doing your absolute best. This is a rough game, man. Don't we know! I must say, at least I feel Fred wasn't a phony posturer like the other re/the amnesty issue, and that's saying a lot. He always appeared to me to be more of a decent fellow than those other snickering fools.
I know we disagree on the war issue, but it is true. This is going to be the roughest of years and I feel it will be self evident that we will have to leave immediately. Bless you guys...and if you chose...I would be proud to have you on board with the doc.
I agree, and understand
I would be heart-broken if Ron had to quit now. I thought Fred was more classy than the others too. We hope his supporters see fit to join us. For those considering Ron Paul, Welcome! I'd be proud to have you join us in support of the good Dr. Paul.
Libera me, let the truth break, what my fears make--Leslie Phillips
But that man should play the tyrant over God, and find Him a better man than himself, is astonishing drama indeed!~~D. Sayers
There is no difference between an authoritarian government from the right or the left...F. A.Schaeffer
Yes, and to review all the
Yes, and to review all the issues from the "horse's mouth" so to speak..please go to the HQ site at ronpaul2008.com and click on issues near the top..then you can check all of them out.
Thanks, and welcome!
Not sure about that for a slogan
"Ron Paul 2008: He isn't Fred Thompson"
Sorry about that. It amused me when I thought about it. :-)
Dink! Dink!
Sorry, couldn't resist the Law & Order reference! Haha! Welcome Thompson supporters. The more the merrier.
I liked Fred
His positions were constitutional. He would've been my 2nd choice. Small government, low taxes and he actually had a plan for social security that would have given something to the contributors, albeit not as much as promised. I have no 2nd choice now.
Welcome Fred supporters
Don't feel like you have made to big of a leap. I happen to be a recovered Democrat and I am a super diehard conservative republican now thanks to Ron Paul. Don't let the war issue get in your way Ron Paul is for a very strong defence for or country. If our congress declares war on a nation you better believe the other side will get a real war. He's a very serious person. He just believes that war is a last resort. He knows our nation is very powerful and has many ways to solve our problems than just one. He is without doubt the only person that can beat any of the Democrats and we all share this. This man is the most conservative man in the race by far. There are many thing to learn in this movement. I have learned so much about my country and how it has worked for the last 100 years. It has even been overwhelming at times. I wouln't trade this year of my life for anything. Keep and open mind its an amazing ride to say the least. I feel bad for your campaign ending the way it did. I'm sure you all had alot time and money invested in it. You have made a good choice coming here and I assure you you are among friends here. We eccept all people here. Not everyone agrees on every issue and we come from every belief known to man. We are a diverse group. We are energetic and protective of or candidate. We love him very much. I believe what bonds us together the most is we all want to see our leaders obey or law just as we have to obey the law. We believe there is no fixing our problems without following the Constitution. We defend this even more than Ron Paul. We love our Constitution in this movement and we love our Republic (And we will be the first of all people to point out the word Democracy is not in the Constitution or the Declaration of Independance). You can also take heart that we love our troops and they love us. Ron Paul has more military donations than any other candidate. We have many vets and active duty members in our movement. The military loves their Constitution as well and they put their life on the line every day to defend it. Anyways welcome to the R3VOLUTION we are glade to have you here.
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If I had a gun to my head...
and suicide was not an option, I would have picked Fred as a second choice.
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actually, FRED...
....to a majority (I think??) of us was by FAR the least objectionable, and actually even likable opponent. A couple of points for former Thompson supporters who we now WELCOME to the fold, as fellow TRUE conservatives...
1) Let us know ASAP if "Fred Head" is objectionable. I don't think many of us really wish to be offensive to folks who, after all, are our fellow Americans. (Most of us, BTW, don't mind being called things like "Paul-tard" and take it fairly well.)
2) Most of us even do not agree 1,000% with EVERY one of Dr. Paul's stands on issues, so please join us in the spirit of understanding that compromise is not a bad thing on "peripheral" things. However....the policy of NON-intervention (NO--it is NOT isolationism) in foreign affairs doesn't fit into that category. Not saying "agree or leave" but you are strongly encouraged to read up on Dr. Paul's historical perspective on "blowback" with an open mind. Personally, at first I believed in the "fight 'em over there so we don't have to do it here" theory, but the more I considered how I might feel if somebody like China or Russia built a military base on the outskirts of my home town and patrolled the streets...the more I realized how CORRECT it is to mind our own business while keeping a STRONG military to DEFEND our homeland.
The Bases Are Loaded: US Permanent Military Presence in Iraq
I just want to add to this comment that the US is building many (6 to 12; I've heard RP quote 14) permanent bases in Iraq and an embassy as big as the Vatican. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GQHeo-CMQyc
So it's clear that the plan is to stay there regardless of how the Iraq civil war is resolved (if it ever is). This war is not about spreading democracy, it's about getting another foothold for our empire, which is both unconstitutional and unaffordable. I ask any pre-Fred supporters that believe being over there is right and good for America to seriously think about these things.
And, of course, welcome! :)
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"In questions of power, then, let no more be heard of confidence in man, but bind him down from mischief by the chains of the Constitution." -- Thomas Jefferson
(and I see many others...
...said it even better while I was typing that!!)
If
If Fred had been the right man for the job, he would have thrown his support behind Dr. Paul. But fortunately, his support has a mind of their own and are obviously looking for the right way. They had almost foud the right place and now they will.
Former Supporters of Fred Welcome Here!
...especially my mother-in-law who called today (from out of state) and said that with Fred out of the race she is seriously considering Ron Paul...
Let's be gracious and see if we can attract more of Thompson's former supporters.
we are certainly
We are certainly gracious, and inviting all Fred Thompson supporters to join the revolution. The Ron Paul revolution that is.
We may have had some few disagreements, but all those that join Ron Paul will inevitably get educated. I liked a lot of things Fred stood for, such as a staunch anti gun control. But the CFR membership just completely turned me off. Dr. Paul is now our ONLY choice.
Let's see , who have we got left....Mitt (nation builder) Romney, Mike (completely fake) Huckabee, John(stay in Iraq 100 years) McCain, and Rudy (what a joke) Guliani.
So people!! Wake the hell up!!! There's only one real choice. I can't imagine this nation under a Hillary or Obama, so let's get our act together!!
Remember this Fred-Heads!
Ron is not against defending this country our fighting a war. He just believes that the congress needs to declare it and he has to have the support of the American people.
NOW THAT IS CONSERVATIVE IN MY BOOK.
Dr. Paul just doesn't think that we should be going all around the world looking to solve everyone's problems. And we should not be paying for it!!!
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me too
Sorta-I was almost a Fred supporter until I could not leave Ron Paul. At first I sorta thought it was something I could mull over and think about. But then the more I thought, the less I could leave Ron Paul. Once you really start realizing that this is a question of globalism or American sovereignty, then there is NO choice except Ron Paul. Even Fred, God bless him and his mother, was going to just be a slightly different version of what we have with a little less bad stuff. But Ron Paul takes us all the way to where we really need to go. Back to being America. Land of the Free, Home of the Brave. Thank God Ron Paul has been brave enough to stand up to all the nasty belittling the press and the candidates have dished out. I personally would not want my children to act like our candidates have acted towards Dr. Paul. Talk about disrespectful. Laughing, jeering, talking over, rolling their tongue in their mouths, repeating what he says as if it does not make sense, when it makes perfect sense and what they said does not add up. They have been rude, gradeschool bully tactics.
Yes
Yes, I would also like to welcome Fred Thompson former supporters. I agreed with a lot of things FT said, but not his aggressive stance on foreign policy. Or the fact that he is a CFR member. All I can say to former FT supporters, is that you now have a chance to join the real deal.
A TRUE Constitutional patriot , a fiscal conservative, a freedom lover, and a believer that we can take better care of ourselves, than anyone else can. Individual liberty and freedom, I can smell it now! Peace officers once again, not government thugs out to harass you, if you've done no harm to another.
Fred Thompson supporters: You have just went from impulse to warp drive, and we welcome you aboard.
yea some of the former fred supporters seem like
they were already ron paul supporters
that's okay I actually beleive that alot of Fred supporters will go Ron Paul. I have met some in person.
its like if you go to mitt romney forums or anyone else, you will encounter like 75% ron paul supporters acting under pretense.