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Drones for Christ

LIBERTY UNIVERSITY in Lynchburg, Va., was founded by televangelist Jerry Falwell. Its publications carry the slogan “Training Champions for Christ since 1971.” Some of those champions are now being trained to pilot armed drones, and others to pilot more traditional aircraft, in U.S. wars. For Christ.
http://sojo.net/magazine/2013/07/drones-christ

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War is peace. It's all so

War is peace. It's all so clear to me now, at the end. The glorious, glorious end.

Isn't this perfectly sick?

Psychopathic Christians really scare me.

not giving merit to westboro Baptist but

This has to be the kind of stuff read in their services.

Moral warriors are the most dangerous. Especially when our laws are now becoming moral laws. What happens when these moral warriors become moral law enforcers with moral missles while you skinny dip in your own back yard?

Isn't it eerie

That the school is located in a town named "Lynch" burg?

Conscience does not exist if not exercised

"No matter how cynical you get, it's impossible to keep up!
---Lily Tomlin

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I've been transported to another universe again.

"At Liberty, the military is considered a tool for Christian missionaries."
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“I have no problem taking another person’s life,” said Emery, “if it would promote peace and liberty and the interest of the country we’re in."
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What the hell am I reading? This is an abomination to the Almighty. I've heard of people stealing for Christ, killing for Christ, raping for Christ, but flying a drone to spy on and assassinate for Christ? Is this the latest effort to reconcile the agenda of the NWO and the sheeple? "When fascism come to America, it will be wrapped in the flag, carrying a cross" and now flying a drone. As Christ cleared the temple of moneychangers, so shall this be removed to one of the hotter parts of hell.

Usurping the military

Religious extremism exists in all religions and here in the US as well. Falwell's evangelists have made a goal of usurping the military.

"Dr. Kristen Leslie from the Yale Divinity School issued what is known as the Yale Report, which complained of "pervasive evangelical" bias at the Air Force Academy. Academy officials criticized the report and attempted to ignore it. Captain Melinda Morton, a Lutheran chaplain, had signed the report and was ordered by the chief chaplain Colonel Michael Whittington, to unsign it. "

http://forwardamerica.blogspot.com/2005/10/religious-indoctr...

"One resists the invasion of armies; one does not resist the invasion of ideas" Victor Hugo

I agree it is sad

But, it is not different than many other wars in history. The Germans believed they were on a religious quest as well to show the domination of Christianity - look how that turned out.

"In the beginning of a change the patriot is a scarce man, and brave, and hated and scorned. When his cause succeeds, the timid join him, for then it costs nothing to be a patriot."--Mark Twain

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There seems to be no evolution regarding religious thought.

What a word to use "evolution," but it fits in this case. Nothing has evolved or progressed. People are as backward and dogmatic regarding religion as they were 50 years ago, 100 years ago, or 1,000 years ago. Blessing weapons, soldiers praying to God to help them kill, and countries attempting to profess moral rightness that God is on their side have been constant historical fixtures. The Germans made ethnic cleansing a household term or was it the Romans 2,000 years ago? Yup, Mohusk. Things are unfortunately no different.

Sigh! Sometimes my brothers and sisters just do not get it!

It grieves me to read a story like this. If they clearly understood the highest principles of their faith: Love the Lord your God with all your heart, soul, mind, and strength, and Love your neighbor as yourself, and especially in the context of Matthew 5:38-48, there would be more soul-searching on issues like this and less 'patriotic spiritual blindness'.

I tried to talk to family members, who are genuine Christians, to the best of my knowledge. The response? "We have to vote for the 'lesser of two evils' to prevent the greater of the two from getting in." "So how is that working for you?"? is the question I am sorely tempted to ask, of all of them.

"Hence, naturally enough, my symbol for Hell is something like the bureaucracy of a police state or the office of a thoroughly nasty business concern." ~~C.S. Lewis
Love won! Deliverance from Tyranny is on the way! Col. 2:13-15

Well....

That was spooky as Hell!

Brain damage and mind control all in one.

Gotta love the reasoning for genocide, so Jesus can come "back". Thanks Christians. Even if you don't agree you let it happen in your ranks.

"In the beginning of a change the patriot is a scarce man, and brave, and hated and scorned. When his cause succeeds, the timid join him, for then it costs nothing to be a patriot."--Mark Twain

whoa; hold on!

I am a Christian, and I am not 'letting' anything happen.

Do you consider yourself an American? Then, by that same standard, you are 'letting' all these atrocities happen, too.

No; stop the collectivizing--

I have done everything in my power to awaken my fellow Christians; it feels hopeless right now, but I have alienated people left and right--

So, don't blame ME!

it's hard to be awake; it's easier to dream--

Well said

Isn't It Interesting People That Are Supposed To Respect Individualism SpeakAbout Others Using The Colletive. Very Well Said Indeed.

Sorry...

You are a Christian. Then your religion not only condones but demands killing of infidels. Have you abandoned your Church and your religion because they support genocide? Have you turned your back on Christianity because it is divisive and justifies killing brown children? It is your choice.

"In the beginning of a change the patriot is a scarce man, and brave, and hated and scorned. When his cause succeeds, the timid join him, for then it costs nothing to be a patriot."--Mark Twain

my religion absolutely does not demand killing of . . .

"infidels" (whatever that word means)--

There are some who profess to be Christians who condone the killing of "brown children", but that is not Christianity--

You didn't answer my question. Do you take responsibility for all the destruction done in the name of America, because you are an American? Or are you not an American?

it's hard to be awake; it's easier to dream--

You are not seeing the trees for the forest

Yes, your Bible does tell you to kill non-believers. Sorry I know your Bible better than you do.

A Christian is a Christian. The "they are not real Christians" defense is fallacious and still used constantly. The genocide in the Middle East and Africa was pushed, supported, encouraged, and justified by preachers, Christians in the news, and just about every Christian cult with maybe the exception of the Catholics (but even most of them were for it on individual levels). So, yes, that IS Christianity.

Does that mean every Christian is guilty? Of course not. Ron Paul is a Christian but fought against the genocide. As I'm sure you have as well. But, it holds true for an overwhelming majority, and any in "power" in the Christian cults. I've never voted for a Republican or a Democrat - and I've protested, supported Ron Paul, did what I could. So, no, I am not guilty of everything the sheeple are guilty of.

But, nor can you deny that the complicity of most Americans (and thus, Christians because we are the most religious nation on Earth and 85% Christian) is based on religious hatred and fear. The whole reason the sheeple accept the wars and the killing is because we are killing brown Muslims. They would never go for killing Israelis or Germans.....well, maybe Germans.

"In the beginning of a change the patriot is a scarce man, and brave, and hated and scorned. When his cause succeeds, the timid join him, for then it costs nothing to be a patriot."--Mark Twain

Specifically...

Where In The Bible Does It Say That? Please Provide Chapter And Verse.

Typical....

You would rather focus on translations of ancient texts and quibble about quotes than the moral incongruity and the guilt of your "faith" and admit you belong to a death cult overjoyed by genocide.

Fine....A few:

"Anyone arrogant enough to reject the verdict of the judge or of the priest who represents the LORD your God must be put to death. Such evil must be purged from Israel." (Deuteronomy 17:12 NLT)

"They entered into a covenant to seek the Lord, the God of their fathers, with all their heart and soul; and everyone who would not seek the Lord, the God of Israel, was to be put to death, whether small or great, whether man or woman." (2 Chronicles 15:12-13 NAB)

"Suppose you hear in one of the towns the LORD your God is giving you that some worthless rabble among you have led their fellow citizens astray by encouraging them to worship foreign gods. In such cases, you must examine the facts carefully. If you find it is true and can prove that such a detestable act has occurred among you, you must attack that town and completely destroy all its inhabitants, as well as all the livestock." (Deuteronomy 13:13-19 NLT)

"If your own full brother, or your son or daughter, or your beloved wife, or you intimate friend, entices you secretly to serve other gods, whom you and your fathers have not known, gods of any other nations, near at hand or far away, from one end of the earth to the other: do not yield to him or listen to him, nor look with pity upon him, to spare or shield him, but kill him." (Deuteronomy 13:7-12 NAB)

"I will make Mount Seir utterly desolate, killing off all who try to escape and any who return. I will fill your mountains with the dead. Your hills, your valleys, and your streams will be filled with people slaughtered by the sword. I will make you desolate forever. Your cities will never be rebuilt. Then you will know that I am the LORD." (Ezekiel 35:7-9 NLT)

"Jesus said, “But those enemies of mine who did not want me to be king over them – bring them here and kill them in front of me.”
Luke 19:27

"In the beginning of a change the patriot is a scarce man, and brave, and hated and scorned. When his cause succeeds, the timid join him, for then it costs nothing to be a patriot."--Mark Twain

yes; you are not more familiar with the bible--

I happen to believe that that part of the Old Testament is 'suspect'--

as do other Christians.

Michael Prior, for example--

Michael died 9 years ago, too young, but he was an academic and a Catholic Priest who spent a lot of time studying the Israeli/Palestinian situation--

and it was his belief (and he was not alone; nor am I) that those parts of the Bible were manipulated--

yet, he was a Christian--

those who doggedly hang on to the idea that every part of the bible is perfect . . .

I just avoid.

Yes, I realize that those who have bought lies will perpetuate terror--

and Christians can do it as easily as anyone else.

I never said that wasn't the case. I simply said that *I* was not complicit.

You rejected that and then apparently accepted it.

Oh well.

it's hard to be awake; it's easier to dream--

Understood

But, my point was not based on Old Testament. It just always goes there for some reason. And, I'm happy you are "personally" against genocide for profit.

But, the overwhelming majority of Christians are the opposite. So, my claim that Christians support our Middle East incursions because they are bloodthirsty and fine with killing brown people with a different god remains. It is a Christian war of genocide, pure and simple. (and yes, I understand they have been duped and it is for profit and the NWO, but that makes it even worse)

"In the beginning of a change the patriot is a scarce man, and brave, and hated and scorned. When his cause succeeds, the timid join him, for then it costs nothing to be a patriot."--Mark Twain

also your best bet would have been to

Reference the genocide of the Canaanites that GOD ordered, and was carried out - women, children amd even animals were slaughtered. But even this was a one time event and not a theme or perscribed process of Christianity.

We can discuss this if you like. You may read this for an explination that would be far better than anything I could muster:

www.reasonablefaith.org/slaughter-of-the-canaanites

"The more you sweat in training, the less you bleed in battle."

Always....

As is typical, you would rather focus on translations of ancient texts written from verbal stories and quibble about quotes than the moral incongruity and the guilt of your "faith" and admit you belong to a death cult overjoyed by genocide in the Middle East.

You can argue that the Bible doesn't endorse murder and slaughter and killing of infidels, but that wasn't my argument. That is, however, the typical response from a Christian playing the diversion game. American Christianity (yes, you are all the same)endorses, pushes, celebrates and justifies the current genocide in the Middle East - I couldn't care less about the ancient world or your silly texts. If you need examples of that pointed out to you, you are truly blind. (like the story referenced per se)

"In the beginning of a change the patriot is a scarce man, and brave, and hated and scorned. When his cause succeeds, the timid join him, for then it costs nothing to be a patriot."--Mark Twain

never read a Bible verse...

You quote Christ as he is telling a parable. A parable. A parable!!

All your Old Testament verses refer to the covenant made between GOD and Abraham - this applies only to those within the covenant. Think of it this way: if I promise to give you 5 bucks, you cant say to someone else 'you promised me 5 bucks' because they were never involved in the promise.

'Knowing your Bible' is not being able to copy and paste, nor is it memorizing 6 sections that support your pre-determined position; knowing your Bible is reading it and understanding the themes and context of the thing while continuing to rely on GOD to help you better understand.

There is no central teaching of Christianity that involves genocide or ongoing murder. The central teaching of Christianity revolves around love, forgiveness, humility, meekness and freely admitting how broken and in need we are as individuals.

"The more you sweat in training, the less you bleed in battle."

Always.....

As is typical, you would rather focus on translations of ancient texts written from verbal stories and quibble about quotes than the moral incongruity and the guilt of your "faith" than admit you belong to a death cult overjoyed by genocide in the Middle East.

You can argue that the Bible doesn't endorse murder and slaughter and killing of infidels, but that wasn't my argument. That is, however, the typical response from a Christian playing the diversion game. American Christianity (yes, you are all the same)endorses, pushes, celebrates and justifies the current genocide in the Middle East - I couldn't care less about the ancient world or your silly texts. If you need examples of that pointed out to you, you are truly blind. (like the story referenced per se)

"In the beginning of a change the patriot is a scarce man, and brave, and hated and scorned. When his cause succeeds, the timid join him, for then it costs nothing to be a patriot."--Mark Twain

You mean, for Israel. Jerry

You mean, for Israel. Jerry Falwell was a major Christian Zionist.