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With Amendment Killed, Rand Paul Won't Support Immigration Bill

(CNN) – Sen. Rand Paul says he’ll vote “no” on the Senate’s bipartisan immigration reform bill, since it doesn’t include his amendment that would grant Congress power to determine whether the U.S. southern border is secure,

The Kentucky Republican had previously been open to supporting the measure, which includes a pathway to citizenship for undocumented immigrants that’s contingent on bolstering border security. Paul introduced an amendment that would have required Congress to vote on whether the border was properly secure, but it failed to gain approval this week.

Without that inclusion, Paul said definitively on CNN’s “State of the Union” he would be a “no” vote.

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Cruz did the same pump fake

Cruz did the same pump fake with the Gun Control Bill. Offered amendment, failed, withdrew support.
I think they're both feigning support only to pull it at the last minute.

Southern Agrarian

Nice chess move.

Nice chess move.

So rand wanted to grant the

So rand wanted to grant the U.S. power over the states to determine if their borders are secure? Im not for the bill but im not for rands position either based on what i just read from the dp post

Rand's gambit

Sen. Cruz pointed out that this amnesty bill transfers immigration decision making and rule making powers from Congress to the executive branch although only Congress is Constitutionally delegated the power to make such laws. It wouldn't make any difference how many extra border guards, drones, and fences we have under this bill since our present Executive already ignores and selectively enforces existing immigration laws. Rand's amendment would have strengthened Congress' hand. The Senate vote on Rand's bill at least identified Senators willing to give away their Constitutional responsibilities and further empower the executive branch.

constitutionally that makes sense though

well constitutionally the feds having authority over the border is perfectly valid. it's part of "provide for the national defense (preamble)", "regulate commerce with foreign nations (1.8)", "establish uniform rule on naturalization (1.8)", etc, whether you agree with it or not on the principles of local government is another thing, but it makes perfect sense according to the constitution--that's one of the areas where the feds are supposed to have the authority.

personally all this bs about border security annoys the hell out of me because I believe in the right of all people to travel unmolested, anywhere, no matter what kind of arbitrary line is placed in the sand by governments. do your best to exclude so-called 'undocumented' people from the provisions of the welfare state, then let them travel in and make a go of it if they can and the free market will decide.

ultimately I think Rand was also concerned about the National ID card but wasn't sure how well that would play politically and was very happy to take this excuse to not support the bill as 'border security' will play very well with the average "they took our jobs" republican while leaving him open to paint himself in the general election as someone who, because of his libertarian ideals, is open to looser small government immigration laws.

I don't think

Rand wanted anything to do with that Amnesty bill and is glad they kicked out border stuff so he could vote no.

double GOOD !...No more

double GOOD !...No more handouts for the Illegal Lawbreaking welfare recipients..

"If ever time should come, when vain and aspiring men shall possess the highest seats in Government, our country will stand in need of its experienced patriots to prevent its ruin."
Samuel Adams


there is supposedly an incredible amount of money attached to the bill for illegals to get free medical and education for their families, even the ones back in their home country.