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Ecuador Foreign Minister Patino speaks: "Who has betrayed Who?"

(Caveat: BBC Translation)
Ecuador Foreign Minister Ricardo Patino speaks.


http://youtu.be/hdzR5FjObEI

RT Analysis:

Paradox

He stressed that the Ecuadorian government puts human rights above any other party’s interests. Patino also said it is “paradoxical” the person who revealed alleged rights violations is being “persecuted.”

“It should be asked, who betrayed whom,” Patino stressed as he questioned the correctness of calling Snowden’s leak a “treason.”

“Is this betraying the citizens of the world, or betraying some elites that are in power in a certain country?” the Minister asked.

International Violation

The alleged US espionage plan would be violating the rights of “every citizen in the world,” Patino said, referring to Snowden’s claim that the US agencies are “intercepting the majority world’s communications.”

U.S.-Equador Dialogue

The Ecuadorian Constitution guarantees the safety of people who publish opinions through the media and work in any form of communication, Patino stressed.

Meanwhile, Ecuador is also considering a US request related to Snowden, which it received from the US envoy in Quito. Patino said the decision would come in due time.

“The relationship between the US and Ecuador should be based on respect for the sovereignty of both countries and our actions are founded on our principles. We consider the consequences of our decisions, but we act in the name of our principles,” said the Minister, stressing that the US had denied the extradition of several Ecuadorian bankers charged in Ecuador.

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This is awesome but sadly...

Too few people will even understand the context...
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The American people seem beyond ignorant.

What should be so simple to see is that any government scrambling this hard to get their hands on Snowden is because they have a great deal to hide and they are living in terror of being exposed for their crimes. Ironic the shoe is perhaps finally on the other foot. How good would it be finally the rest of the people woke up to see what the Cheney's, Bush's, Clinton's, Obama's, etc. of the world have been orchestrating in concert with the banks and military industrial complex for years.

beephree

Ecuador

My new favourite country.

Along with allowing Assange to stay in their embassy in London they are protecting Snowden.

They must have balls of steel over there.

Lord Acton, Lord Chief Justice of England, 1875 - "The issue which has swept down the centuries and which will have to be fought sooner or later is the People v. The Banks."

ecorob's picture

When the American people...

and the world unite together against the corruption in d.c., the US "gubbermint" will feel the pain!

its 'cos I owe ya, my young friend...
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No thank you

I don't buy into the false choice of NSA spying on US citizens or pray to UN.
I'm thinking we just follow the US Constitution including 4th & 5th amdts. And tell the UN to screw off

"Who has betrayed

"Who has betrayed Who?"
"Who?"
"Who?"
"Who?"
"Who?"

Exactly!

This shouldn't even be a question right now. Two hundred years ago citizens would be surrounding the white house with pitch forks and muskets.

Im suprised our US Media filters

allowed this to get through.....

For Freedom!
The World is my country, all mankind is my brethren, to do good is my religion.

Moon over Ecuador

LoL could not resist

Anyway, know nothing about the place.

How corrupt is the place or is it actually somewhat ok?

When I think of SA I think of Juntas...;)

donvino

South America is coming along

It has come a long way from the Juntas. Watch the video that Assange did with President Correa and you might get more where he is coming from. It is more than an ok place for me.

Healthnut4freedom

The lip of truth shall be established forever: but a lying tongue is but for a moment...Lying lips are abomination to the LORD: but they that deal truly are His delight. Prov 12:19,22

Can't They Get Assange Out Of That Embassy?

Can someone please explain to me how Wikileaks was able to coordinate Snowden's transport but can't do the same for Julian Assange?

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"Bipartisan: both parties acting in concert to put both of their hands in your pocket."-Rothbard

I thought the same thing.

I thought the same thing. Only thing i can think of is Edward moved quicker than Julian. Now Julian is stuck in an embassy with authorities watching it constantly in-case he steps foot off the embassy, which they would immediately arrest him. Thats just my guess though

The moment he leaves the

boundaries of the Embassy he is on British soil, and can be arrested.
julian Assange was a "hero" of mine, until I found out that he is not all that he is cracked up to be, and most likely not on the side of the "little" people, but is an agent for the CIA. Wikileaks, like Snowdon has reveled nothing that many people didn't already know.
I do not believe in the trumped up sex crimes against him, but am suspicious of his Embassy of choice.

Cointel Pro

I would suggest to you that is cointel.

"CIA Assets" tend not to be held against their will by there employers in foreign embassies, talking about freedoms and liberty as you and all of us do.

Just a thought.

Is he really there against his will? We don't know WHY he is at that particular embassy, was it choice or placement? The stakes in South America are high....all those unexploited resources. South America is being lined up as the next Rape and Pillage Continent. The new pope being from there is no accident.
Julian Assange, and now Snowdon seeking the protection of human rights from a country whose human rights record is as bad as some middle easter dictatorships, elections or not, is just a tad fishy.
I fell that they are pawns being lined up, the "bishop"is already in place.

unfortunately...what you say

unfortunately...what you say could be true. i still think its a reach, but we are talking about the U.S. government so its not that much of a reach. but i could easily see any actual freedom fighter here at the DP being pinned exactly as edward is and there could be a million of "what if hes workin for them" scenarios...so he could be one of us, therefore based on the facts and not feelings i believe he is one of us

I don't mind being wrong about this

and I hope that I am...but I can't shift the niggles in the back of my mind that this is too pat.

Seems like a decent man

Someone i could at least stand to talk to, and know my words wouldn't drift on by.

"Timid men prefer the calm of despotism to the tempestuous sea of liberty."

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Assange interview with President Correa

This was an interview a year or so ago. Gives you more insight into the person.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZvUwC5JTAJY

Healthnut4freedom

The lip of truth shall be established forever: but a lying tongue is but for a moment...Lying lips are abomination to the LORD: but they that deal truly are His delight. Prov 12:19,22

healthnut4freedom, as Ecuador is

your 2nd home, what steps are you taking to lobby for the release of Victor Hugo, the professor of sociology who was arrested, and is being held on terrorism charges for ogranising a Peoples mach for Water, Life and Dignity?
Can't ever remember Al Qaeda, the IRA,or any other terror organisation marching for these basic human needs.
This professor is only one of many being held on trumped up "terrorism" charges in Ecuador.
Google Ecuadorian journalist Satya Sagar, and learn more about the rot that lies beneath the veneer of the Ecuadorian Regime.

Jill Booth

Unless you have lived in Ecuador and understand Ecuador, you can't really talk about Ecuador can you? No, I didn't think so.

In the four years I have lived here on and off I have seen vast improvements to the infrastructure of the country, to the educational system, to the nutrition programs in schools, to the standard of living for the country as a whole. Everywhere I look there is new building and progress and people who were destitute four years ago are now making a living. Why? Because of Correa's policies where he taxes the bankers and gives to the people instead of taxing the people and giving to the bankers.

Correa and his "regime" are elected officials. The media outlets have been controlled and run by the bankers. Correa is changing that.

I don't agree with Correa on a lot of things but overall what he has done for this country is impressive. While the U.S. has bridges and roads falling apart and more and more people going hungry, Ecuador's roads and people's quality of life keeps improving.

Healthnut4freedom

The lip of truth shall be established forever: but a lying tongue is but for a moment...Lying lips are abomination to the LORD: but they that deal truly are His delight. Prov 12:19,22

I agree that some things in Ecuador have

improved, but much of it is only window dressing. Poverty has decreased, but not through jobs and education, but because of unemployment benefits...or wealth distribution,call it what you will.
State control of media is rampant, and "enemies of the State" are jailed,
abused and imprisoned on trumped up terrorism charges.
Any state that controls the media can paint any picture it wants about the health, wealth and welfare of it's country.
Remember, G W Bush was also an "elected" official, Fox, CNN, MSNBC, are all "independent" news outlets
and look at the mess the US is in. Could that amount of deceit not happen in Ecuador too?

Are you here?

If you aren't, how can you say such things? Again, I have seen the poorest person and an upper middle class person and all in between benefiting from this Administration. My upper middle class friend didn't like Correa initially but now he loves him. He was bragging about our beautiful highways and how they talk about them in Colombia because their roads are so terrible. His standard of living has improved greatly under this administration. My very poorest friends were very depressed and concerned about providing for their families 3-4 years ago. Now they are building new homes and actually buying cars.

Life has changed and not because the government is giving an extra $50 per month to very low income people. You aren't here so you can't see it.

Correa's vision is for about 1/3 of the media outlets being local government. I do encourage you to watch the interview with Assange. It will give you insight into where he is coming from. Again, he is not a saint and I don't say he is but he is doing something for this country and I haven't seen a President do anything for the country in the U.S. in so many terms, except line their pockets.

Healthnut4freedom

The lip of truth shall be established forever: but a lying tongue is but for a moment...Lying lips are abomination to the LORD: but they that deal truly are His delight. Prov 12:19,22

libya, a country with a

98 percent literacy, great infrastructure, the worlds largest man made river and irrigation scheme, free schooling, university, medical and housing, and a monthly cheque in the bank from oil revenue.
Yet, we are told that the regime was rotten. Could this be the same in Ecuador?
If you are not willing to scratch the surface of this country, so be it, but would you care to comment on the plight of freedom of the press (or lack of it), or are you one of theses people who will willing give up your rights for safety and security from your Government?
Are you brave enough, from the security of your middle class comfort, to really, REALLY look into the corruptness of the Ecuadorian government, or will that make you uncomfortable?

Correa's sounds like Ron Paul on Libya

Here is the response Correa gave to the assassination of Gaddafi. I thought it was very interesting. I also agree that what the U.S. did to Libya was despicable.

http://en.mercopress.com/2011/10/24/ecuador-president-condem...

" “It’s homicide that three grandchildren, one and two year olds, and a son of Gaddafi were killed, and this must be investigated by United Nations”, underlined the Ecuadorian president.

“We are not defending the regime of Gaddafi, we defend the sovereignty of countries, non intervention” said Correa and went on to ask, “why didn’t they intervene against Pinochet and the military regimes of Argentina and Uruguay?”

“Gaddafi was captured alive and executed and there are people celebrating and there are others who opt to remain in silence. But they killed his sons, his grandchildren, ¿in what world are we living?”

“If this would have happened to Pinochet I would be making exactly the same argument, because it’s not a matter of Pinochet or Gaddafi, it’s the human rights of every person because of their intrinsic dignity, which is independent of the crimes these dictators have committed”, said Correa."

Healthnut4freedom

The lip of truth shall be established forever: but a lying tongue is but for a moment...Lying lips are abomination to the LORD: but they that deal truly are His delight. Prov 12:19,22

Seriously?

Who has given up their rights for safety and security from the Government? The U.S. citizens have. Ecuador is the wild west. There are a lot of things about living here that gives me complete freedom and I love it. But on the other hand with that freedom comes responsibility and being on your own. There is a lot of corruption in Ecuador. Tell me a country that doesn't have it? There is no ideal place on planet Earth.

Ecuador just enacted a law and I have the complete document. It is all in Spanish so it is very tedious to wade through. Yes, expats are very aware of it and are discussing it thoroughly. The primary reason these laws were enacted is because of all of the past corruption and the banks running the country through the media. Are there opportunities for corruption? Probably. The U.S. is filled with corruption and the press in the U.S. is NOT free though it gives a vague impression of it.

Correa has stood up to the U.S. on so many issues and I really admire that. I haven't seen another president confront the issues head on like he has.

My middle class comfort? My life here is to enrich the lives of others and I am doing without a tremendous amount in order to accomplish that. There are many blessings with it but; Toto we aren't in Kansas anymore. I didn't come here primarily because of the politics. It is far more complicated than that. But I love this country.

Healthnut4freedom

The lip of truth shall be established forever: but a lying tongue is but for a moment...Lying lips are abomination to the LORD: but they that deal truly are His delight. Prov 12:19,22

;-)

My buddy Heathnut4freedom...

Always good to see you on here, one of these days I just may come down to see you.

For Freedom!
The World is my country, all mankind is my brethren, to do good is my religion.

Dextersyd

We will leave the light on...

Healthnut4freedom

The lip of truth shall be established forever: but a lying tongue is but for a moment...Lying lips are abomination to the LORD: but they that deal truly are His delight. Prov 12:19,22

Ecuador, the bastion of civil rights?

don't make me laugh!
In 2012 the State shut down 20 private media outlets, the Government is corrupt, and it's human rights record is disgusting.
It only takes a few minutes research to learn that Ecuador does not treat people who speak out against the regime very well.
Edward Snowdon, had he been a true enemy of the US, would never have been able to leave the country.
Do you think Sybil Edmonds or Bradly Manning would have been able to cross the boarder and evade the "authorities"....twice...three times?
It is time to stop the hero worship of Snowdon, recognize him for the shill he is,and get on with reclaiming America for her true and loyal citizens...not Government patsies.