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Two huge problems with Obama's vow to fight climate change

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We could may lots of headway with liberals

Discussing free market solutions to environmental problems. For many liberals, the environment is their number one issue and environmentalism is their de facto religion. Pointing out that the government is, and always has been, the biggest polluter and explaining how property rights are the best way to protect the environment could open some minds.

“The welfare of the people in particular has always been the alibi of tyrants.” — Albert Camus

CO2 passed 400ppm this week

350ppm was the safe line we crossed around 17 years back and we're going much higher. Too bad the gov is such a bunch of useless idiots -Hemp would absorb 1500ppm if the govs of the world could get their heads out of their arses and do what's right for once..The oceans will be dead within 45 years so it really won't matter anyway. At least we don't dump raw sewage like most countries including the so called model countries like Canada..

Government is supposed to protect our freedom, our property, our privacy, not invade it. Ron Paul 2007


main problem, imo, is that obviously our 'leaders' have forgotten that scientists admitted the whole climate change issue is a hoax--or else they remember, but think we're 'that' stupid!!

Remember reading about the hacked emails admitting the farce??

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Man made global warming

is nonsense wrapped in Bull$#!t.

CO2 is plant food.

global warming is the least of our problems

Water and air pollution are real and they will kill

Government is supposed to protect our freedom, our property, our privacy, not invade it. Ron Paul 2007

You're grasp of science is


I don't agree

I'd say all the crap we buy from communist industrial China does far more polluting http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8yVYJbTLWZg

I'm finding it tougher and tougher each day

to explain how our world works to my grandchildren.

"Yes, you're right. All we have to do is flip the right switch and we can fix pretty much everything but too many people don't want to."


"They believe the lies their told."

Yea, you can bet thats right.

Yea, you can bet thats right. You might say the military in particular because of the all the fuel hungry vehicles they operate. Even just finding a way to eliminate 1% of the fuel used would make a huge impact.

To climb the mountain, you must believe you can.


The US military is the 14th largest user of oil in the world. They use as much as Greece. How does one make a tank that gets one mile per gallon of gas eco-friendly and "green" as it goes about its function killing people?

Don't forget battlefield contamination from depleted uranium rounds, destroyed crops, buildings, vehicles, fuel spills into the local water system, medical waste in the local dump, and just plain litter from military bases and troops.

Conscience does not exist if not exercised

"No matter how cynical you get, it's impossible to keep up!
---Lily Tomlin