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Only Civil Disobedience Will Win Our Liberty Back!

Only violence will win our liberty back.

You don't think so? Who are we kidding?

I write post on Facebook about the intrusions of the NSA and other government programs. I tell them to write their representatives as I have. Write their senators. I tell them not to let these transgressions against US, the people by way of destroying our Constitution, simply fade into yesterday's news without incident, without there being a vote forced on this issue.

I disseminate the truth to the men in my Infantry company and watch the truth spread like wildfire through the ranks. They say they will uphold their oaths...most of them...and most of the senior NCOs and officers. I think many of them understand it now. But what are they suppose to do? Spread the word?

Once that happens, they'll do what I do. Tell everyone they know the truth. But then what? Once THAT happens? They can start to demand change...but how? How does one without power and authority "demand" change? These are things I catch myself saying all the time. "DEMAND CHANGE!!!"

Writing your representatives won't demand change. Neither will writing your senators. HA! That's IF they even really read it for themselves, and IF they are the one's that even email you back.

The game is over and the media controls the character of our people. The people are lazy, worse, they are complacent. In the military there is a popular phrase...complacency kills. This is in reference to IEDs. Come on though, wake up! Our government is dropping tyrannical bombs on us left and right and the news only fades to darkness.

The only way we can demand change is through violence. Until there is blood spilled, there will be no change. Until we show them WE have the authority and the POWER to DEMAND change...nothing will. Until we are ready to give up what we love, to get what we need to strive as humans, LIBERTY, then we will continue to wither and suffocate under the oppression that is being unleashed against us daily! Don't be confused, there are many veterans that stand with you. Ironically, we as Americans love to praise our troops (although less so here) if not for their effort to fight wars, for the bravery to stand and DIE for what they believe. There are many veterans, including me who don't believe in these wars, who get the system, who understand the Federal Reserve, petrodollar, and more. It doesn't mean we understood when we joined, but that doesn't take away from the point that we served for the right reasons, which is for the LIBERTY that we THOUGHT we had.

So let me ask you this. If we want to give all this credit to our military for being brave to keep us "free", then why is there no credit to be given to the citizen who is brave enough to actually stand up to be free? Like Snowden? The soldiers can't do it all. The backbone of our country is the citizen. It's you and me. I may be a soldier, but I am a citizen FIRST. America needs context in which to judge their "heroes". We need to be willing to die for our liberty. Rather, die for our son's and daughter's liberty. We all know they will have none in their lives with the progression of government today.

Bottom line. We need to push our limits to show we have power as people. We need to find a way to fire up America as a whole and stand up and make a change. Not by writing, by ACTING OUT. Americans are the weapons we need to win the war for our liberty. Like a sword, this weapon cannot be made when the "steel" is cold. It must be hot and the fire and passion for liberty must be ignited to make a change. It is on us, the informed to make this change. It is on us to initiate the movement. WE must ignite the flame in which this weapon can even be forged.

Although the violence I call for may be that of our own government acting against us, we must show civil disobedience. We must. Change will NOT happen without it. We can't let people like Adam Kokesh stand alone. That march on DC is exactly what we needed. No one wants violence. I don't. But the change we so desperately need must be demanded. The only proven way to do that, is by civil disobedience. We did not strike first, they have. And we haven't even gone as far as civil disobedience.

I'll leave you with what is surely one of our all time favorites.

"God forbid we should ever be twenty years without such a rebellion.
The people cannot be all, and always, well informed. The part which is
wrong will be discontented, in proportion to the importance of the facts
they misconceive. If they remain quiet under such misconceptions,
it is lethargy, the forerunner of death to the public liberty. ...
And what country can preserve its liberties, if its rulers are not
warned from time to time, that this people preserve the spirit of
resistance? Let them take arms. The remedy is to set them right as
to the facts, pardon and pacify them. What signify a few lives lost
in a century or two? The tree of liberty must be refreshed from
time to time, with the blood of patriots and tyrants.
It is its natural manure."

Sincerely. With love, and for liberty.



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Have you STILL not read the entire post?

"Civil disobedience means that you suffer, not them. Civil disobedience means you have to be CIVIL. Being civil means you don't use violence."

EXACTLY. I'm only calling for violence in the instance that it is first used against us, as a people, after civil disobedience is consistently met with VIOLENCE. There will be blood spilled, that's how civil disobedience works. The people doing it have their blood spilled, which in turn opens the eyes of the country and spurs the movement to scales it needs to be for change.

I'll post where I'm getting at here. Michael got it, you have not. So, here it is. The PARAGRAPH that will make everything make sense to you. Pay attention to the first sentence.

"Although the violence I call for may be that of our own government acting against us, we must show civil disobedience. We must. Change will NOT happen without it. We can't let people like Adam Kokesh stand alone. That march on DC is exactly what we needed. No one wants violence. I don't. But the change we so desperately need must be demanded. The only proven way to do that, is by civil disobedience. We did not strike first, they have. And we haven't even gone as far as civil disobedience."

Please READ. READ.


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Did you take English class in school?

Do you know what a complete sentence is?

When someone jumps a fence at the zoo and gets eaten by a lion, nobody blames the lion. When a cop shoots someone who puts their hand in their pocket while the cop is screaming "PUT YOUR HANDS UP!", nobody blames the cop.

Do you understand what I'm saying? Provoking an attack on yourself is far from civil disobedience.

My biggest problem with Kokesh's march is that he wants everyone to carry loaded guns. I never, ever carry a loaded rifle unless I'm hunting. It's not smart if you're by yourself let alone in a crowd of strangers. If Adam would be willing to make sure that everyone marching was carrying an unloaded rifle I would be there in a heartbeat.

In my opinion, carrying unloaded rifles on DC would be civil disobedience. Carrying loaded rifles on DC is a threat, and is foolish.

I read the whole post before I made the first comment FYI. I just focused on the direct calls to violence, which is why I downvoted you.

You might not have intended for your post to be a call to violence, but the words in the post directly call for violence to solve our problems. I can guarantee that violence will not solve anything, it will only make the problems worse.

The individual who refuses to defend his rights when called by his Government, deserves to be a slave, and must be punished as an enemy of his country and friend to her foe. - Andrew Jackson

It is the truth.

Like you said how does one demand change with no power or authority. I live in Missouri and get a kick out of how the sick b***ch Claire McCaskill must laugh at the phone calls and e-mails she gets. Her vote is already decided and it goes to the highest bidder. Even funnier is she knows religious people will never affect change through violence. But who will get the last laugh?

The way things look, she

The way things look, she will. It's so sad. But we HAVE to make a stand. Libertarian is a fringe group. The people ARE us. They are divided over trivial things like crosses placed downtown, gay rights...they don't even understand freedom. They don't understand how united they are, how divided they have been by lies and intentionally divisive issues. They are waking up, but we are the kindling to start the fire, the embers that make it endure, and surely the ashes when it's all said and done and the people turn back to the government that they will somehow someday be duped into believing is benevolent.

Million Person March

It is understandable this feeling of angst and anger about what is happening. Every day something new is fueling the need to take some type of action, as time is getting short.

How, when, and who, to lead a Million Person March in an act of Civil Disobedience is the next step.

Marching Is For Collectivists


This revolution is not about coordinated troop movements


Individualists stand.

So many ridiculed Kokesh, he

So many ridiculed Kokesh, he needed to do that, WE needed to do that. Something CRAZY. Something INTENSE that would show one of two things. Who they really are, or who WE really are.

Resistance ...

... is for the strongest.


Its not time for that. Too

Its not time for that.

Too many millions are still asleep.

We are not at the 1774 year yet....more like before the pilgrims got on the boat.


They are too complacent. WE have to be the ones to excite them and find a way to light that fire. They know that the government knows they look at donkey porn, and they don't care. They know everything about them, and they don't care. A clear sign we need to reach out and educate and get them to that point.

I begrudgingly agree...

Since our elections are rigged. Electronic voting machines and voter fraud has made peaceful change impossible.

The all-out assault on truth and the human psyche will continue until it is stopped by force.

We, the People, need courage above all things more than ever.

How do you

defeat a gangster?



"If you want something you've never had before, you have to do something you've never done before." Debra Medina


With decent marksmanship skills. They shoot sideways.

We are

making change.

Just think, the names Ron Paul and Rand Paul were unknown on a national stage in 2006. Now these two are regularly interviewed on MSM shows. It scares neocons to death that Rand Paul looks like he could get the nomination for 2016.

I know our victories seem small and like they will never amount to much, but understand we are pushing against a system on the wrong track for many decades. Change won't happen overnight, although I understand your frustration.

The other thing to remember is all our problems with a tyrannical empire come from an overgrown government made possible by the inflationary dollar. The dollar system is coming to an end. That's how empires crumble. That's what happened to Rome. That's what happened to the USSR. An empire needs money to run on or it will only be shell of what it was.


The only thing I can really disagree with is "how" much change is had. I will agree, that many more are actually talking and thinking about liberty...even along the libertarian lines. People ARE waking up to all of it. But, what's changed since then? Maybe Snowden was a result of this change and this disclosure happened because of it.

However, once you awaken the people, that won't change the system. We must force it. Power concedes NOTHING without demand, and we can't demand if we don't have power. We must show our force. As I say, when the time is ready. But we must prep the change. We ARE the leaders in this country, history will show it.

If you were not on a "list" before....

I think you are now.

The individual has always had to struggle to keep from being overwhelmed by the tribe. If you try it, you will be lonely often, and sometimes frightened. But no price is too high to pay for the privilege of owning yourself.
Friedrich Nietzsche

Oh, I'm a soldier with a Secret clearance

And I'm sure I've been on that list for some time. I bet I couldn't fly to deploy to war. HAHA.

Honestly, for caring about freedom. Ironic that my concern for liberty will constrain my travel capabilities.

hahaha 'donkey porn' hahahahahah, niiiiiiice

what intended to say is 'if you're not on the tyrant's naughty list you're a part of the problem' but then I read your donkey porn statement. hahahahahahahahahaha

Aaron Russo, Nikola Tesla, Ron Paul, I'm jus' sayin'