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Gays and Bikers

I have no problem with people who enjoy the biker lifestyle. In fact, I can go years without them ever crossing my mind. If I see a hardcore biker advertising his identity in public, I might stare and think he's a bit nuts, but if he isn't rude or obnoxious I will just be amused by him and get on with my life.

I would welcome all bikers into the liberty movement. They seem like people who would appreciate the way the market can tailor circumstances to individual choices. If I meet a biker who's into the liberty philosophy, I will enjoy discussing the things we have in common. I will still have no interest in his lifestyle or public image choices.

I might tell snide jokes about bikers, but it doesn't mean anything. I don't hate them. I don't even care about them. (What's the difference between a Harley and vacuum cleaner? The positioning of the dirtbag.)

If a bank teller, waiter, etc., happens to be a biker in their off hours, it doesn't concern me or have any effect on my professional dealings with that person (except to the extent they advertise the fact that they're a biker during our transaction).
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BUT if an extremist contingent began using the political system to force the acceptance of biker identity and the biker lifestyle on my family, my attitude would change from amused indifference to something like hatred.

I'm not convinced being a biker is a healthy lifestyle choice, and do not want my kids exposed to bikers. The fact that bikers become obsessed with their public image, eschew traditional family and community, and revel in what I see as amoral sex practices, seems to indicate to me that there is some emotional scarring or some other disorder at work.

If my kids grow up to be bikers without any biker-bias corrupting their choices along the way, I will be stunned, but I will work to accept them. What I ask is for the opportunity to raise them without the biker lifestyle, which I see as unhealthy, being part of the equation.

If in the media and in the political realm I am repeatedly challenged to have a reaction to the biker lifestyle and identity, I will end up putting my feelings in blunt terms. I will describe them as degenerates and lunatics just to get everything on the table and get them to leave me the hell alone.

If, however, bikers don't demand I have interest in their choices, and if they don't use the political system to force me to spend two minutes of my life ever thinking about them, I will let bikers go in peace. I might even think their small, strange subculture makes the world more interesting.

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How is that bigotry? Bigotry

How is that bigotry? Bigotry - someone who, as a result of their prejudices, treats other people with hatred, contempt, and intolerance on the basis of a person's ....

All he is saying is so long as someone doesn't push their values onto him, he won't have a problem with them; he's indifferent to gays the same as bikers, which, by the above definition, is not bigotry.

I don't see the point of writing this article, but it's not bigotry. Are you trying to compare gays to kittens in the since that they're innocent? or fluffy and cute.

If ignorance is bliss, Washington DC must be heaven.

I guess that's the point...

To highlight what is and isn't bigotry. There isn't necessarily any virtue in embracing something just because it's different. There isn't necessarily any evil in rejecting something that doesn't suit you.

The intolerance for people's right to reject certain lifestyles and mindsets for themselves and their families, in fact, fits the definition of bigotry.

I hate to admit this but it

I hate to admit this but it actually took me reading your second paragraph a few times to catch your meaning. intolerance for people's RIGHT to REJECT lifestyles is bigotry. I can agree with that.

And thanks for pointing out the purpose.

If ignorance is bliss, Washington DC must be heaven.

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