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Jeb Bush will be the next president of the United States

Wake up and smell the fix, its in. Anyone who thinks there is any actual chance of a truly elected President next time around is living in a fantasy world. Rand Paul's part in this is to be VP, hence the favorable media coverage of late. His job will be to corral the likes of us willingly into the communist takeover, presented as a 'noble effort' for the presidency that falls just short, then a 'reluctant acceptance' of a position on the ticket because of 'stringent guarantees' for Liberty policies after the election.

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Are we still pretending our "votes" matter?

Or are all of these comments comming from members of the Electoral College?

Aaron Russo, Nikola Tesla, Ron Paul, I'm jus' sayin'

Instead of preparing for Jeb Bush and failure...

How about preparing ourselves mentally and practically for a President Paul in 2016?!

Whining and giving up and saying "i'll never vote again" and "it's already been decided" is a self-fulfilling prophesy.

Yeah, it's corrupt. It's rigged.

So we gotta push a lot harder this time around. We really learned the game in 2012 and were very competitive despite going head-to-head vs. the law-breaking RNC/GOP, the lying corporatist MSM machine, and the corrupt banking cartel which funded the establishment campaigns.
This time, if we have to, if they play dirty, we can't just take it and do nothing. We have to return the favor in kind. Apparently... that's how it works. Those ARE the Rules! I don't mean do something stupid. I mean stand up for ourselves when they...
break the bones of our properly elected delegation chairman in LA, close the wall off on our majority delegation in OK, turn out the lights/AC on our people in NV, threaten to revoke our standing as delegates in MA, blatantly & purposely ignore and miscount votes (everywhere), break their own party rules...etc, etc...

We also gotta demand that Rand stick to his father's and our principles when it matters. It's our job to hold the people that represent us, accountable. And our job to boost them up and support them, when they are. And No Jesse Benton's this time and no tanking the campaign right at our peak!!!

For now, I'm all in for...

Rand Paul 2016

Are you a POT or a PET - Person Embracing Tyranny?

I agree wholeheartedly.

I keep saying,

"Winners plan for success, while losers contemplate the consequences of failure."

I am a winner.
As with The Grangers local GOP, Liberty has taken over my local GOP as well!

Exercise Liberty!

America Rising.
The Constitution Stands.

"That the pen is mightier than the sword would be proven false; if I should take my sword and cut off the hand that holds the pen" - American Nomad

I see many are believing

John Ellis Bush has no chance to be president. However, the same was said about 'W' Bush after his father's favorablity severely declined and Clinton was elected. I don't have time to look for the post, but the PPP poll in Montana, that had Rand in front for '16 also had Jeb tied for second with Christie. The majority of people on the right are ignorant brainwashed doobs, and with the money Jeb will receive, he is a top candidate. Jeb's moderate GOP establishment appeal could draw some of Hilary's support, as there are still many male shovenists in the blue collar Democrat side who could get behind Jeb. I'm definitely against another Bush, but with the ignorant GOP it could happen.

Mad Liberties

I think some people randomly make up absurd scenarios and post them here, in hopes that their outrageous prediction that is based on the most flimsy of - if not completely fabricated - evidence, will one day (randomly) just happen to turn out correct.

It's Mad Libs: Liberty Edition
"I am sure that _____ is actually secetly working for _____ and will soon turn on the liberty movement like a treacherous snake.

It is obvious that they are secretly a shill for _____, because this one time? They were spotted by some guy that has a blog on the internets, who reported them reading ______ near _____ on the beach in _____ "


thou dost protest too much.

Obedience to God is resistance to tyrants.


And if you post enough guesses on enough sites you are sure to pick a winner.


no more Clinton or Bush. Are people really this blind that they would vote for these criminals again and again. It makes no sense. Am i living in the Twilight Zone? None of this makes sense any more.

Plus the rules are in place. It will be even harder for Rand to pull this off but I will back him all the way to the end.

To those who think Rand is no different

You think the filibuster is something Bush would have done? Would he have spoken out repeatedly afterward on civil liberties issues?

Lastly, we know RON is a fervent idealist. I don't think he would even support his son if he didn't think he should. That's the bottom line for me. Rand is our Trojan Horse. This should be obvious by now!

George W. Ruined His Chances

No more Bushes. After the Iraq war, the country would never entrust the presidency to a Bush.

It's time for Rand Paul to step up and take this fight to Hillary Clinton. He's the only one who can beat her.

Blessed be the peacemakers.

"Bipartisan: both parties acting in concert to put both of their hands in your pocket."-Rothbard

egapele's picture

Let them have no more Bush

Michael Nystrom's picture

Don't forget - you heard it here first

Posted by an anonymous screen name, on a free website.

Therefore, it must be true.

He's the man.

Your Krishnamurti quote reminds me of Ira Freeman's favorite...

bumper sticker. "What kind of a sick effin' society flies around robots murdering people?"

Aaron Russo, Nikola Tesla, Ron Paul, I'm jus' sayin'


the kind of technologically advanced soceity that isn't going to allow sick effin backward suicide bombers to murder them and their families and friends.

You sound like a Romney voter.

Oh, that's right! You are a Romney voter! Hey Granger, drunk drivers kill more Americans every year than Islamic terrorist have in the past hundred years. Would you support drone strikes on drunk drivers in order to keep our families safe, or is safe families just an excuse for your program of Islamic genocide?


You think telling me that I voted Romney is a slap? It's not.

You are WRONG about Islamic terrorists, murderers.

I don't support drone strikes period.

Islam believes in Islamic genocide that why they murder and blow each other up.

I wasn't going to reply but...

Why are you still on this site?


The slogan press on has solved and always will solve the problems of the human race. No person was ever honored for what he received. Honor has been the reward for what he gave.

- Calvin Coolidge

Because I support this site

unlike free loaders like you.

Thank for finding time to comment with all of the funerals you

must be attending daily from all the suicide bombers killing your friends and family and all. Tell us more. You are very interesting and well spoken. Did I mention your intelligence and originality?

Aaron Russo, Nikola Tesla, Ron Paul, I'm jus' sayin'

You just DRONE on and on( you should get checked for volubula)

Look it up troglodyte.

Aaron Russo, Nikola Tesla, Ron Paul, I'm jus' sayin'



Do my Mad Libs (above), just for fun!


Even if Ron Paul or Rand was President, even if Judge Napolitano was the Attorney General of the USA, there are 10 more top policy enforcing positions of real power. Without "RonPaul" in each of these 10 positions, getting a noose around the Govt Beast's neck, can't be done. What is even more daunting to realize is that around each of these 10 positions is 3 corporate ones that keep the one government position head "in check".

Those 10 govt positions of Real Power are:

Head of the CIA, NSA, FBI, Homeland Security, Sec of State, Sec of Defense, Head of the Fed, Head of the Treasury, Head of the World Bank, Head of NATO, ...etc. It is the head of all these positions of real power that must go along with any proposed policy changes that the President offers up.

And if these men don't agree? Then recall what happened to JFK, or if you prefer the lesson in fiction, watch the movie THE PARALLAX VIEW. http://www.youtube.com/movie/the-parallax-view

Yes, please BUY this wonderful libertarian BOOK! We all must know the History of Freedom! Buy it today!

"The System of Liberty: Themes in the History of Classical Liberalism" ...by author George Smith --
Buy it Here: http://www.amazon.com/dp/05211820

State Sovereignty FTW!

We can't control the central government, but we can influence our state legislatures, who can do all kinds of things the feds and their keepers don't like.

- Term limits for Congress, mandated by the individual states on their own reps.
- Repeal the 17th.
- Amend the Constitution to declare states sovereign and final authority for constitutionality.

Please look at www.annettespencer.org.

No president will ever "legalize" our liberties until the states make him do it. Peace. :-)

Cyril's picture

I can't help but to notice

I can't help but to notice most of this thread's comments seem to make the same assumption:

that there will be a chance for calm and, say, rigged as usual, campaigns and elections, to begin with.

I mean no offense or to scare anybody, but AFAIC, I do not take this repeatability this much for granted, my dear American cousins.

History has shown us many times how much confusion, trouble, and distress can happen in just a few weeks, or just a few days, usually when most people least expect it.

We can only see what's happening in front of the curtain, as ugly as it is for us already, but we can't know exactly about the schedule of what's busy behind it. The peoples never get to know (until late; cf. Jekyll Island meeting, for ex.) what's being discussed in the cigar rooms of this system of things.

And it's not just about the USA on this planet, as we know, and both just or simulated resentment, or foreign preparations for plans "B", have been quietly building up for at least a decade now in many countries, and for some of them, not exactly small.

God only knows, but my personal feeling is the day for the US credit card to find itself rejected is getting closer and closer.

2 years... That's more than enough of a time window to see, maybe, a lot of people get a harsh wake up call much louder (than the one we got already) and unpleasantly shaking their so far apathetic, indifferent, quietly selfish DAILY.

"Cyril" pronounced "see real". I code stuff.


"To study and not think is a waste. To think and not study is dangerous." -- Confucius

If Bush wins the primary his first act

Should be to hand the keys to the White House to the Dem nominee.

Here's the problem with that:

Rand is NOT RON and never will be.
Yet, because he carries the name, "Paul", liberty-minded folk will vote for him.
So many were upset by Rand's "betrayal" of his father. He never DID betray his father. He was not ever on OUR side or that of his father, so there was no turn-around in his behaviour.

I agree that Jeb is being groomed as the next POTUS (or that we're being groomed to {s}elect him.) And having a Paul, no matter which Paul it is, goes a long way. In fact, I'd bet that half of the people who read this post thought, "As long as there's a Paul there, it will be okay and I'll vote for that ticket".. It will NOT MATTER if there is a Paul there, when the Paul IS Rand.

He is as libertarian as is Dubya-Bush, people. Please do WAKE UP!

We had SOME proof, but RNC does not care about Rules n Laws- they just break and then change 'em to suit whomever (not PAUL).

Jeb Bush has an excellent

Jeb Bush has an excellent chance of getting the Republican nomination, because the controllers of that party are still enamored of George W. Bush and his clones. If that happens, the Democrats will walk to victory in the next presidential election.

The GOP is not called the Stupid Party for nothing.

SteveMT's picture

Two words: No Way.

The name Bush evokes so much hate in people. The Bush's helped Hitler get to power.
Bush1: "No new taxes."
Bush2: A warmongering puppet enabler of government-sponsored terrorism.

Now Bush3?: There is just too much baggage and so much blood on their hands to be considered, which means that he probably will be.