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Glenn Beck's New Book! (Prepare To Laugh)

I get it now! Glenn Beck's job has been to be the fake, stupid, and non nonsensical caricature of the real reporter Alex Jones. This is the icing on the cake though:


The Eye of Moloch
http://www.glennbeck.com/moloch/



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Okay, I think we all

Okay, I think we all understand by now that you support Rand, a lot of us like Rand, some of us love Rand, and a few of us think that Rand is the Devil, I like him, I think that all of us know who he is and have some sort of opinion about him,

now my question is who else do you support, I think I've seen you bash Justin Amash, so is there any one besides Rand that you like? Thomas Massie,Steve Stockman any one? if no that's fine, but in the end one of two outcomes WILL happen either...

A. Rand Paul is elected president.
or
B. Rand Paul is not elected president.

Tons of good people are running for office right now, Rand is not, these people have names like Philip Eby,Greg Brannon,Dwayne Stovall,T.J Fabby and Debra Medina all of them will either...

A. Win.
or
B. Lose.

I can not make any one like any of these people but I can support them by telling other people about them, if some one brings up Rand I will gladly talk about him but for now he is on the back burner as far as I am concerned, I am not telling you what to do, use your energy on whatever you think is the most important and have a great day :)

I do not bash Amash

I don't think Amash is presidential material who is going to beat Rand. I'm very pleased he is where he is and would like to see him advance to make a REAL run in 2020.

Gary Johnson comes back to the GOP, that would be great.

Meanwhile, I will be watching C4L, YRLC, RLC and see who's willing to make local runs, and I would like to see the strongest from the conservative thirs parties, Conservationist, Libertarian and American Independent slip into the GOP where we can unify our efforts rather than work against each other on small issues.

Rand is already a front runner for 2016.. so why keep him on a back burner.. and for Amash? That does not make sense.. I can see and I have promoited Amash, though CA is a long way from Michegan, and presently, Rand is that lightening rod.. If they like Rand, then we can talk about where they see themselves.. if they don't like Rand.. who do they like? If it's Amash over Rand.. I'm not going there.

ecorob's picture

You sound just like georgie bush...

...there are terrorists out there and you are either with us or against us...

Well, here is the straight skinny, granger.

I am NOT with you!

I am NOT with the neocons, I am not with the democrips, I am not with the gop.

I am WITH AMERICA.

My group, those in the GREAT VAST MIDDLE of America where respect for the rule of just law dominates will OWN this country or we will see it burned down and rebuilt.

We don't care which way it goes but it will go one way or the other.

Witness...WE, the people ALLOWED romnie to lose by staying home in 2012. We have ONLY grown stronger. You can ignore us, you can ridicule us, you can fight us, we don't care.

We are what we are. We are steering this country now. We ALLOWED obombya to win a second term to prove the failure of this country NOW, not 8 years from now.

I am proud of who we, the people, are. We will fix it. One way, or the other.

its 'cos I owe ya, my young friend...
Rockin' the FREE world in Tennessee since 1957!
9/11 Truth.

Michael Nystrom's picture

Granger! Another honest answer deserves a thank you

I see & hear exactly where you're coming from, though I disagree.

And I love your point that one should not confuse being a friend with friendliness. Sometimes a real friend has the duty to slap his friend in the face. Not pleasant for anyone involved, but I've done my share of (judicious) slapping, and I've been slapped on more than one occasion. All for the best of the friend, and the friendship.

Of these issues that you speak of:

Last year, at the RNC, the rEVOLution was co-opted by a Libertarian wing that refused to join Ron Paul in the GOP.. they dubbed themselves, "The Liberty Movement" and have co-opted Ron Paul's message, misleading many people into thinking Ron Paul is a racist anti Israel Jew hater as many of them are (and frankly they look more like jihadists than Patriots).

I think you have to acknowledge Paul's role in all of that as well. Whether he wrote those newsletters or not, he allowed them to go out under his name, which has forever tainted his name. Whether he was a libertarian or not, he ran as one, giving him the reputation, to quote you, as just another Republican who couldn't get his message heard in the GOP so he used us.

So he bears a great deal of responsibility for the way the campaign shook out.

At this point I would like to make a distinction between a friend and a follower. Just because you're a friend doesn't mean you have to follow him everywhere he goes.

And I take great issue with what you say here:

WE ARE THE FUTURE WE ARE republiCANS, and those who are not with us, are against us, co-opting our message, and twisting it.

Now who sounds like the jihadist, Granger? I'm certainly not with you, but I wouldn't count myself against you either. But you'll make a lot of enemies if you maintain that attitude, and I don't think that is what you want.

He's the man.

I'm a Zionist not a Jihadist

If we are intelligent, we grow, we change.. and this is why loyalty in a friendship is more important than friendliness. Enemies can be friendly, but they will never be loyal.

I have GROWN a lot since coming here because I've LEARNED a lot.

Ron Paul is human and he made mistakes in his past that his enemies used against him. I believe Lew Rockwell wrote those newsletters and Ron remained loyal to his friend and didn't cast blame, but took it.

Lew, or whoever, should have copped to writing the letter, but Lew does not have the integrity of Ron.. and I totally believe that Ron's runs were because he saw the GOP was about to be dumped to give the USA a one party control like Communist China, and was setting Rand up.. Rand is awesome.. look at Palin talking about bailing now because she had her folks come in when we were coming in to take our seats.. now they're talking of bailing.. The GOP is a ship.. a vessle.. it's not what it was when Lincoln, or Reagan or Bush was the captain.. it's not going to be what is was when Rand becomes the captain. The Liberty Movement is NOT with us. I KNOW that.. yet they have CO-OPTED Ron's message.

Many people have influenced me in my life and I followed each one until I was able to stand on my own.

As far as enemies go.. Enemies are precious.. one needs enemies because our enemies help us define who and what we are.. they help us understand our convictions, and help us love what we love with more passion. I do not hate my enemies, I hate some of the things they say and do, especially when it is violent, but to me.. really.. it's not about me and them.. it's about me and God. God will be my judge. God is who I fear, in losing his LOVE, for I adore GOD, and I want God's mercy, God's truth, God's help and grace.

I know you have not been with me for a long time (((((MN))))) I've read your posts and while it was very sad, I took no pleasure in watching you come to not like DP, want to escape it.. run away. I've watched you go from being an impassioned artist, filled with hope and sharing your LOVE, to crawling under a rock and hiding.

To me, this was your reward.. because I'm still ROCKING THE rEVOLution, having a great time and victory is SWEET!

I am now a zionist. I asked and searched, "Why would Ron Paul say, 'Israel is our friend'"? NOW I KNOW!! AND I LOVE Israel.. I didn't know about Israel and Palestine I thought I did.. but now I see the truth.. Israel is many religions, many cultures, many people art, science, technology.. it's thriving, and this Palestinian argument.. it's a lie, and it's brought to us by the UN that has worked hard to stop Israel because they want a world of Palestinians (Arabs who are under control of Islam, and why they will NEVER broker peace with Israel) How dare Israel advance the human race and life, when to them, it's ALLAH or death, and to thier kings, it's blood for oil.

To hate Israel is to not KNOW Israel. To stand with Palestine is to stand with the UN NWO Arab oil and HATE for freedom.

Peace be with you.

great points, well said!

great points, well said!

Ron Paul 2016

I appreciate your candid response

I also appreciate the format of the DP. I think it's wonderful that libertarians of all flavors have a place such as this to voice our thoughts to others.

I certainly did not intend to offend you by posing the question. I was simply curious of what your response would be.

Then there are the Rothbardian Anarchists, who would love to take over this site. (I assume you're among them, and correct me if I'm wrong). They would love to be able to lead all of these pople to their specific and narrow ideology.

I hate to place labels on myself (or anyone else for that matter) but I do believe ultimately anarchy will be the solution. I don't belong to any clubs or organizations. I am a registered Republican voter, and I've attended a few local meetings. Other than that, I rarely even talk on the phone.

I am a person that is content within myself. I grew up moving about once a year. I constantly found myself making new friends and leaving old ones behind. That's why I do not need the rubber stamp of others to validate my beliefs.

I have always been interested in how everything works and fits together. This has led me to be a scientist, but my curiosity has no bounds. The broad interest I've always had progressively allows me to see the connections between everything in the world more clearly.

I worship no man, no set of men, and no supernatural being(s). I reserve the right to disagree at any time. However much I appreciate what Ron Paul has achieved in spreading the Message of Liberty, I will not always agree with what he has to say. I disagree with Mises - a supposed hero of Dr. Paul's - on some fundamental economic issues. I disagree with Rothbard from time to time, as well.

Logic, reason, and careful observation guide me. I am not easily persuaded. I always employ a healthy amount of skepticism, but I also keep an open mind.

I would be more accurately (politically) labeled as a Derrel Walters Anarchist.

Michael Nystrom's picture

Oh, you didn't offend at all

It is an interesting question, and it forced some clarity into my thinking, while at the same time it raised more questions

Upon further reflection, I think basically everyone is trying to coopt the liberty movement. This brings forth the question, What is the Liberty Movement?

I hate to place labels on others as well, although it is useful for the purposes of discussion.

Logic has its place, but it is not God, either. Logic, without love, can lead one to some pretty strange places.

All this being said, a movement should have goals, otherwise it is simply a protest. The two main goals I see as I look around here are: 1) The conversion of people to Anarchy, 2) Rand Paul 2016.

Both of those goals are fundamentally, the same. Both reduce to proselytizing, which is something human beings love to do.

But all kinds of people see the energy and the vitality and clarity of the Liberty Movement, and they want a piece. They want to channel some of that energy in their direction.

"Here's the next Ron Paul! Here! Get excited! Open your wallet!" That gets tiresome.

Ultimately, I think it comes down to what (I think) you are expressing at the end, which is simply: Be free.

It is possible to find freedom in an unfree world.

He's the man.

So you like to read...

Perhaps this reply has more to do with your Hultberg interview post, but hey, I'm reminded as I read your above comment of this book that I picked up for free from a library that was cleaning its shelves...
http://www.amazon.com/Robert-Nisbet-Communitarian-Traditiona...

It quite impacted me. I left a link for you [at your Hultberg post] to a lecture given by the book's author. He's a better writer than he is speaker, so there you go! :D

extra credit...
http://youtu.be/4Dr0WgduMRo

Excellent

I've yet to read Nisbet's bio! But I have read some of his work, and it's absolutely great and filled with intellectual acumen.

I think Mr. Stone has referred to Nisbet as a "libertarian-communitarian," which seems like a contradiction, but I think once someone has read Nisbet's work, one will understand why Mr. Stone thinks that. In fact, to most people, the word communitarian connotes some form of left-wing communitarianism where the state is the national community. Heck, even left-wing communitarians try to use Nisbet. They misundestand, of course. I recommend a recent attempt by a leftist and replies to him below:

http://www.libertylawsite.org/2012/06/22/toward-a-new-form-o...

http://www.libertylawsite.org/2012/07/16/liberty-and-communi...

http://www.libertylawsite.org/2012/08/09/the-images-of-progr...

Anyways, I bet you know, by reading Nisbet's bio, his works. But if you are interested in some of his essays he wrote, I recommend the below site.

http://www.unz.org/Author/NisbetRobertA

Some material is copyrighted, but just search and you will find some that are free. Great stuff.

malo periculosam libertatem quam quietum servitium

I am an aristocrat. I love liberty; I hate equality. - John Randolph of Roanoke

Michael Nystrom's picture

Looks good

Thank you.

He's the man.

Highly recommend Nisbet

Robert Nisbet has been a seminal influence in my life and intellectual world-view since I've read his work. I can't say I've read all of them, but the most important or popular. I think libertarians should read him because I see his work as a great critique of the state from a traditional conservative's perspective, and some of his prescriptions vital to combating the state.

Mr. Brad Lowell Stone's bio I haven't yet read, but works I recommend are below.

The Quest for Community: A Study in the Ethics of Order & Freedom

Twilight of Authority

The Present Age: Progress and Anarchy in Modern America

Prejudices: A Philosophical Dictionary

A bonus is he has a great writing style.

malo periculosam libertatem quam quietum servitium

I am an aristocrat. I love liberty; I hate equality. - John Randolph of Roanoke

Yes! I've listened to this;

Yes! I've listened to this; great stuff!

malo periculosam libertatem quam quietum servitium

I am an aristocrat. I love liberty; I hate equality. - John Randolph of Roanoke

you just NOW figured this out?

I guess better late than never....The guy is as fake as they come but still has managed to fool A LOT of people...including many people here on the DP.

"I am Troll fighter, number one"

-Ernest

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LxWb-ViejPg

"The Eye of Molech"

I can't stop laughing. 100% not a thing.

Senator Peter Schiff 2016

guess next, Beckie's gonna claim that it was him who infiltrated

the Bohemian Grove with Mike Hanson!

LOLOL!!!

I kinda almost feel bad for Beck's audience that they're utterly clueless of the fact that Glenn's pretty much copying almost everything AJ's ever done!

http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/news/glenn-becks-shtick...

Predictions in due Time...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zGDisyWkIBM

"Let it not be said that no one cared, that no one objected once it's realized that our liberties and wealth are in jeopardy." - Dr. Ronald Ernest Paul

breaking video of beck

breaking video of beck followers, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gTHviJ8eO4Y

Ron Paul 2016