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This Is Big! Israelis Send Strong Message To Iran.




http://youtu.be/7agK8MIJ3TO



http://YouTube.be/5yPkiR5Iorg


Zionist, Israelis and Jews, Oh My!

Sometime when folks use those terms they paint the words with broad strokes.
I however prefer clarity.

Zionist = Ideology
Jewish = Religion
Israeli = People

I do understand that sometimes they cross all paths, but not always.
Probably less than many would think.

Not defending anyone.
Not pointing any fingers either.

I want to live in a better world.
Where everyone can live, laugh and love and most importantly...

Exercise Liberty.



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I don't agree that Ms Weir tells it like it is

http://archive.adl.org/israel/anti_israel/alison_weir/

Alison Weir has established herself as a prominent voice in the anti-Israel movement. She frames the Jewish State as a violent aggressor in the region and charges that the United States, through its aid, is the driving force behind this aggression. Weir claims that not only does Israel brutalize the Palestinians, but through its intimidation tactics, it corrupts the American political system and prevents criticism of its conduct from being voiced by the mainstream media. As a result, she contends, Americans are kept in the dark about how their taxes fund Israeli mistreatment of Palestinians.

She is rated in the top ten of Anti-Israel voices in America

I am for stopping aid to countries that HATE America. Israel does not HATE America, some Americans continue the tyranny of racial and cultural hatred of Eugenics directed at the Jews in atacking Israel, with no appreciation of what Israel has done for America in Engineering, Technology, Agrculture, arts and science. Instead, they find it easy to place blame on Israel and her citizens, for American politics (because duel citizens take jobs they refuse to do in government) by siding with Terrorist organizations like Hammas and Hezbollah, some are Neo-Nazis, and they hide behind the UN NWO / UN Agendists, which they do not agree, but use as shields for their racist hatred.

Clicking on your link and listening to a few minutes of a terrible specker (she's talks like I spell), on the left, you will see what company you are within.

Ms Weir in now president of the bogus Council of National Interest

The Council for the National Interest (CNI), which includes the Council for the National Interest Foundation (CNIF), is an anti-Israel organization that opposes U.S. aid to Israel and disseminates demonizing propaganda about Israel to academics, politicians, and other audiences.

On June 29, 2010, CNI announced that its longtime president, Eugene H. Bird, was retiring after 17 years, and would be replaced by Alison Weir, a journalist and the director of If Americans Knew, an organization that produces and disseminates propaganda intended to de-legitimize U.S. support for Israel. In CNI's statement announcing the new appointment, Weir charged that American support for Israel "fuels violence, causes massive damage and instability in the region, profoundly undermines U.S. interests nationally and at home, endangers our citizens, and entangles our nation in unnecessary, futile, and tragic wars."

CNI and its educational arm, CNIF, are closely linked, sharing leadership, as well as a Washington, DC address and phone number. CNI founders, Paul Findley and Paul 'Pete' McCloskey, are the founders of CNIF, and Bird was previously the president of both entities. CNI was founded in 1989 as an advocacy group and established the CNIF in 1990 to serve as its educational arm. In 1997, CNIF obtained a tax-exemption status from the Internal Revenue Services (in 1994, the IRS explained that it rejected the CNIF's petition for a tax-exemption status because: "your biased presentation does not promote public education"). In its 2006 990 form, CNIF lists CNI as an affiliated organization.

In recent years, CNIF sent several delegations to the Middle East that met with terrorist leaders from Hezbollah and Hamas, including two delegations that met with Hamas leader Khaled Meshal in Damascus in 2009 and 2008. A previous delegation met with Hezbollah Secretary-General Hassan Nasrallah in January 2006. During the meeting, Nasrallah informed his guests of his intention to abduct Israeli soldiers. Edward Peck, a member of the delegation, later described Nasrallah's comments as a "logical, reasonable presentation" and cited it as proof that Hezbollah's image in the West was distorted.

Peck, who has led and participated in several CNIF delegations to the Middle East, is a former chair of CNIF and a former U.S. ambassador. In May 2010, at age 81, Peck participated in the Free Gaza Movement-led flotilla that attempted to reach Gaza. He was apprehended along with the other flotilla participants and detained by Israeli forces before reaching Gaza.

In addition to its anti-Israel activity abroad, CNI has attempted to promote its views to the American public, including running numerous anti-Israel ads in major national newspapers. On August 28, 2008, the final day of the Democratic National Convention in Denver, CNI ran an ad in the Denver Post and Rocky Mountain News highlighting high home foreclosure rates in the U.S. and charging that "meanwhile, billions of your tax dollars continue to purchase beautiful homes with subsidized mortgages… in Israel." Insinuating that U.S. taxpayer dollars are helping Israelis afford their homes even while Americans cannot, the ad called for a "big change" in U.S. policy towards "Israel and her neighbors." CNI ran a similar ad in Christian Science Monitor the same day.

On June 10, 2007, CNI published an ad in The New York Times expressing support for an anti-Israel rally being held that day in Washington D.C. The ad demanded: "End the Israeli occupation now!," calling for Israel to "get out of the West Bank and Golan Heights, and free up Gaza." The ad also included a cartoon that CNI described, in a June 6, 2007 email letter to supporters, as depicting "the top six presidential contenders scrambling to get to an AIPAC podium to express their 'undying support' to the state of Israel." A caption in the cartoon said: "They're competing for the president of which country?"

In a previous ad in The New York Times, published on April 22, 2007, CNI condemned Israel, calling on Congress to "deal with Israeli apartheid in Palestine!" The ad further condemned U.S. support for what it claimed were "Israel's policies of colonization, Apartheid and imprisonment of the Palestinians," which, according to the ad, were "making the two-state solution to the conflict impossible." The ad avoided any condemnation of terrorism, instead calling for an overhaul of U.S. policy in the Middle East, including financing the Hamas-led government in Gaza and starting a dialogue with Syria and Iran.

Prior to that, in an ad that it published in The New York Times on November 5, 2006, CNI blamed Israel for the war in Iraq and accused the "Israel Lobby" of trying to push the U.S. into a military confrontation with Iran. The ad included a cartoon in which the "Israel Lobby" is depicted as a crooked used car salesman and the U.S. as its gullible customer. As in other CNI ads, the cartoon was created by Khalil Bendib, a prolific Muslim-American cartoonist whose work often incorporates anti-Semitic themes.

Other previous CNI ads have described Israel's founding in 1948 as a time when Israel "rejected, uprooted, tortured, maimed and expelled" the Palestinian population; have described Israel as a state that promotes "discrimination and apartheid"; and have called for Israel to be "held accountable" for "espionage and covert operations against the U.S.," and for its "development of weapons of mass destruction." CNI also claimed that Israel is responsible for "metastasiz[ing] terror around the world," and for "acts of aggression, provocation, and massive retaliation" against neighboring Arab states.

Moreover, CNI is becoming increasingly more involved in an old anti-Israel campaign that is rooted in the discredited accusation that during Israel's Six Day War in 1967, Israeli forces purposely attacked an American ship, the USS Liberty, and that only because of a conspiracy to cover up the truth by U.S. officials, Israel was never held accountable. In June 2007, CNIF hosted an event to commemorate the attack.

Also, in April 2007, James Abourezk, a former U.S. Senator and the CNIF vice chairman, published two articles in The Liberty News, a newsletter of the USS Liberty Veterans Association, that attacked Israel as illegitimate and Zionism as racism. In one article, Abourezk claimed that Israel's war of independence was part of a Zionist "ethnic cleansing" campaign and that the Palestinians "wanted no part in the violence being introduced into their homeland by the Jewish military." He also wrote that the Holocaust "became a bonanza for the Zionist movement" and claimed that the vote in the UN in favor of establishing a Jewish state was an "injustice" and, from a legal perspective, should not be seen as binding. Abourezk quoted a Jewish friend, whose name he withheld: "Israel has nothing to do with Judaism, but it has everything to do with fascism." In a second article, Abourezk praised the Syrian regime of Bashar al-Asad and claimed that "the Israeli Lobby" was pushing for a war against Iran.

In contrast to its harsh criticism of Israel, CNI has defended terror groups that attack Israel, particularly Hamas. In a December 2006 solicitation letter, CNI stated that "despite Congress's repeated attempts to characterize Hamas as an anti-Christian terrorist organization, the fact is that Hamas has just announced that they will give [money] for Bethlehem's Christmas celebration." The letter had followed similar statements in support of the Palestinian terror organization and several meetings in the Middle East earlier in 2006 between CNI representatives and key leaders of Hamas and Hezbollah, including Khaled Meshal and Hassan Nasrallah, as well as Syrian president Assad.

In a widely circulated 2003 article, "Liberating America from Israel," CNI founding chairman Paul Findley, a member of CNI's board of directors, blamed America's relationship with Israel for the 9/11 terrorist attacks. "Nine-eleven would not have occurred," Findley wrote, "if the U.S. government had refused to help Israel humiliate and destroy Palestinian society." He added, "America suffered 9/11 and its aftermath and may soon be at war with Iraq, mainly because U.S. policy in the Middle East is made in Israel, not in Washington."

In May 2000, Paul N. "Pete" McCloskey, CNI's chairman at the time, spoke at the conference of the Institute for Historical Review (IHR), a Holocaust denial organization. He shared the stage with known anti-Semites and Holocaust deniers like David Irving, Mark Weber, Robert Faurisson, Arthur Butz, John Bennett and Ernst Zundel. From the podium, McCloskey said of the IHR, "I respect the thesis of this organization," according to a transcript of the speech that was posted online by the IHR.

CNI was founded in 1989 by several former U.S. government officials, including Paul Findley and Paul 'Pete' McCloskey (both former U.S. congressmen), Eugene H. Bird (formerly with the U.S. foreign service), Andrew Killgore (former U.S. ambassador to Qatar), and Richard Curtiss (former U.S. Information Agency chief). Kilgore and Curtiss are the founding president and executive director of the Washington D.C.-based American Educational Trust (AET), an anti-Israel group that publishes the Washington Report on Middle East Affairs.

More on CNI

Abdurahman Alamoudi, a member of the CNIF Board of Directors, stated at a rally on October 28, 2000, against Israel in Lafayette Park, across from the White House: "'Hear that, Bill Clinton! We are all supporters of Hamas. I wish they add that I am also a supporter of Hizballah."[57][58][59][60]

In 2004, Alamoudi pled guilty to financial and conspiracy charges related to terrorism and was subsequently sentenced to 23 years in prison.[61] Eugene Bird explained that at the time he joined CNI Alamoudi was a highly regarded Muslim spokesperson who worked with the United States Department of State. As soon as Alamoudi was convicted, CNI asked him to leave its board.[62]

Of Course You Don't Agree

But that doesn't make it so.
You're not a libertarian, if you were you wouldn't constantly show such strong support for stealing other people's money and giving it away to others. I hope it is becoming clearer to people here that you are nothing more than an Israeli agent and that your presence here is a good indication that Israel and AIPAC are having to put forth much more effort into getting what they want. Every day more people are learning the facts, and the more facts people know, the more difficult it will be for AIPAC to continue swindling the American people.

I do give Granger credit for being dedicated in her efforts of deception. If we all show just half as much dedication in spreading the truth and protecting our finances and liberty, we will succeed.

I hope some of you will be aggressive in sharing the websites that I have posted, along with the videos of Ms. Weir, and continue making people aware of the U.S.S. Liberty and the other crimes against the American people, such as spying by Jonathan Pollards, that Israel continues to carries out. What exactly those things may be, I'm not certain, but I assure you that even during their sleep, they don't stop thinking of ways to screw us over and make what is yours, theirs. And if you're going to be big enough dummies to sit back and let that happen, and it will happen if you do, then you don't deserve any better. Don't be a bunch of naïve idiots--stand up and defend yourselves!!!

thanks for the link to Weir--

I believe in Ron Paul's assertion that 'blow-back' is the problem with American foreign policy--

and Weir does follow that. She also points out how biased the American media is--

I haven't finished it, yet, but she does seem sound--

I've been following the 'discussion' between babybear and The Granger, and I think you are truly diametrically opposed.

I believe there are good Israelis. I believe there are many Jews who do not want to see Muslims hurt--

just as I believe there are good Americans.

Some of the Americans and Israelis who are really good ARE blind, true--

but many of them are not.

Truth will eventually win--

I began to question Israeli policies when I began to read Michael Prior, a Catholic priest who went to Israel and found out a lot of difficult things--

but I still don't believe that Jews or Israelis are bad just by connection, any more than I believe that all Americans (including many of us on DP) are bad because *we* are here.

There is a huge gap between what the people want and what the leaders want--

in all cultures and nations--

I really do believe that many Jews have tried to get the truth out (whether American/European Jews or Israeli Jews)--

and I applaud them--

about 30 minutes out Weir mentions this--

Personally, I am very weary of evil people who lead most, if not all, nations of the world--

and those who support them and fund them--

it's hard to be awake; it's easier to dream--

Michael Prior is defrocked

The Catholic Church does not condone HATE, admits it's part in the holocast.

You are convincing me that those who are weary and suspicious are not pro-active but reactionaries, thus they fall prey to the lies they so badly want to escape.

I can't find any information on that--

on his being defrocked, but then I'm not Catholic; perhaps you have inside information.

Prior was a relentless peace crusader; I haven't read that he said anything about the holocaust, one way or the other.

But, you do know that he has been dead for 9 years?

it's hard to be awake; it's easier to dream--

You're Welcome

She is a very sensible person. Here are articles from the Jewish Anti-Defamation League about her: http://www.adl.org/12Home/search-results.html?cx=01134633505...

I looked at that link--

there comes a point at which each person must decide for him/herself what is truth and what is error.

I watched Weir's entire youtube, and I felt her sincerity--

Propaganda is a problem in every culture, but the JADL has it down.

So sad--

Someday all deceivers will be confronted with their deceit--

Yes, I believe Weir; yes, she confirms all my own beliefs, so perhaps that is wrong of me--

but I don't see how she can be contradicted--

If I had the strength; if I were young again, I would do more in that area--

I don't regret the things I have done; I have done my best, but I wish I had not been so blind for so many years--

ah well--

The 'thing' that bothers me most is the hatred people like JADL have for those Jews who speak up--

it seems they get a lot more persecution--

but then it is usually that way--

it's hard to be awake; it's easier to dream--

Thanks for Your Feedback

I respect Ms. Weir as much as I do Dr. Paul. They are both very dedicated individuals that work almost non-stop sharing the truth and spreading the message of righteousness and freedom.

I just watched most of it--

Ah, the JADL--

it's hard to be awake; it's easier to dream--

I AM NOT A LIBERTARIAN

You couldn't pay me to be a libertarian.

I was a libertarian from 76- 93 and I don't miss that BS go nowhere crappy paranoid group of losers in any way, shape or form.

To be a Libertarian is to be a political loser under control of the GOP. Who will your next GOP presidential candidate be?

Stealing others money? If you are refering to the money given to Israel, Israel returned over $6 billion for Americans investment. I bet you have NO idea how many products you have that are made in Israel.. got Tech? Israel. The best medical equipment is coming from Israel. New energy is coming from Israel.. business ideas are coming from Israel. Israel is not into the sustainable BS.. Israel is about THRIVING, advancing the human race.

You hope it is becomming clear that I am an Israeli agent? I wish I was an Israeli agent. The truth is I'm not smart enough to pass the simple exams.. I don't speak Hebrew, and I'm trying to learn, but I have a diffcult time enough with English, which my atrocious spelling makes evident.. Israel isn't looking for wannabes like me, they are looking for brilliant people, and they pay well.. adverage job earns $89K and more in the states.. and that's not government welfare, that os because Israel KNOWS how to make a profit and believes in sharing the wealth. Their CEOs are not bilking the workers. It's not that Israel isn't charitable, they have more charities and volunteer opportunities than any country on Earth, including America.. but to THRIVE, my learning curve is below their need. I wish that was not true. I would LOVE to work for Israel.

I do intend on going to Israel. There are many thing I want to see and do. Israel is a "Disneyland" for genius.. I'll probly be thrilled with the A ticket, and can watch the E ticket from the outside.. but really.. I wish I had what it takes to work with Israel. It's an AMAZING place with AMAZING people who don't knock each other down,. but work together as indiviuals to build each other and their country up. Apathy has no room in Israel.

I have always avoided AIPAC being I bought the AIPAC is not good.. but I was WRONG. I checked out AIPAC and I like AIPAC now. AIPAC is RIGHT ON fighting racism. What's your beef with AIPAC?

What finances in the name of a collective "we" are you thinking you're going to protect? The USA is in deep debt because it's killed it's work force, education system, creating a nation of dependents and apatheic people who don't even show up to the polls let alone get involved politicaly. It's become a nation of people who fear and hate their own government, refuse to work, think they are entitled to hand outs they are dependent, and look to BLAME everyone but themselves. You are a perfect example.

America is a victim of Israel? That is a lie.

I am happy you are in the Libertarian Party, because you are a perfect example of why the party of losers will continue to lose. Instead of taking responsibility, you blame others. That's what losers do. And when you're not busy blaming, you're right about sitting back and DOING NOTHING (but whinning and blaming, cursing and being very afraid). Isn't that why you're in the Libertarian Party? You can be in the Libertarian Party and DO NOTHING.. it's an empty soap box, and if you really had some sense, some truth about you, some GUTS, you would get in a major party because that is who has the power and ability to actually CHANGE what you don't like.

Well, must be time to for you and your Libertarian pals to light up another joint and gloat about getting high, because that high is about as high as you will ever get in life. Then you can come back down and BLAME anyone else who has better things to do than get high and think you're going to build a political party that has the brains to beat Israel in advancing the human race in science, technology, the arts, and so on.

Puff away..

???

You're the one who is going to puff away.

Learn the facts...share the facts.

http://www.councilforthenationalinterest.org/costs

That is a lie

I just showed you that Americans give four times more money to Afghanistan.. we gave only a few thousands of dollars less to Egypt, though that figure could be wrong now that Obama has recently given Egypt F-16s and hundreds of tanks.

Your article makes false statements, backs none of the statements it makes with FACTS from unbiased sources..

Stop the HATE.

http://www.state.gov/r/pa/prs/ps/2012/02/183808.htm

You may find the budget itself to be more factual? Beginning at pg 61 you can see how we prop the UN and for the specific nations (the programs are explained above by area, what nations are getting what)

From Appendix page 169 (153 on text) http://www.state.gov/documents/organization/207305.pdf

It's harder to find Israel than Snowden GO FIGURE

It's The Truth

Simply because you resent people seeing it doesn't make it a lie.

I'll just let people read the contents and decide for themselves. Keep in mind the aid to Israel is long-term.

And by your own admission of the facts, Israel has plenty of money, so there is no real need to give them our money, other than their instinctual need to swindle and feed off of others. Israel is like a person who pretends to be in need and stands on the corner panhandling while they have a pocketful of money and go home to a bigger home and eat better food and then laugh at what a bunch of fools they took advantage of that day.

Because you said so?

I gave you THE State Department on US ALL Foreign Aid (The UN takes the cake BTW) pdf and the page numbers where to look to save you time. What have you got but a racist organization that is listed in the top ten of HATE organizations in the USA? NOTHING

You say that you "just let people read and decide for themselves"? That is a lie.. You are all over DP posting HATE over Israel and your HATE blog.. I give you proof from The US State Department with page number and you can't refute it, I bet you didn't even look, because it is NOT truth you seek or share, but HATE. Blame and HATE.

Yep. Israel has plenty of MONEY MONEY MONEY.. Poor USA invests in Israel which it actually get a return in BILLIONS and you moan about that? Israel delivers, yet too many are too STUPID to profit off it for themselves and rather BLAME AND HATE. No wonder you're poor.

There is NO swindle by Israel.. Israel is making superior products because they are INVESTING in people who can THINK and PRODUCE while America invests in people who believe they are entitled to something for nothing (you're a perfect example).

Sadaam was a threat to the

Sadaam was a threat to the petrodollar. He wanted to trade Iraq's oil for Euro's and other currencies besides the dollar. Same with Gadaffi. And now, same with Iran. The 'weapons of mass destruction' bit is ridiculous. I don't know how they keep a straight face when they say it.

http://www.caseyresearch.com/cdd/demise-petrodollar

“Let it not be said that no one cared, that no one objected once it’s realized that our liberties and wealth are in jeopardy.”
― Ron Paul

To the Saudi part of the petro dollar

Michael Moore's Fareinheit 911 showed the connection between the Saudis and Bush administration.

Hey Granger

You buddies had this add running on the first vid. Sign up now.

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signed and THANK YOU

THANK YOU for Taking a Stand for Israel!

Iran + USA

If we were truly free here in the USA, we would be very close with Iran. I die inside that the USA has betrayed all it was supposed to represent.

brilliant

propaganda probably dreamt up in some war room.

"If this mischievous financial policy [greenbacks], which has its origin in North America, should become endurated down to a fixture, then that government will furnish its own money without cost. It will pay off its debts and be without debts. It will hav

as shephards love their sheep

when you are told by the JOLC that you are a chosen citizenry on top of the shoulders of all the peoples of the world through their bondage to your god it isn't exactly easy to keep standing without soothing messages

A true flower can not blossom without sunlight and a true man can not live without love.

Sounds better than "resistance is futile" or "we are inflicted"

because of course if they truly love the goys, or "gentiles" should I say (since were dealing with a peaceable israel at the moment) they would have not let the Jewish Ottoman Land Company charter their livelihood as citizens.

nor would they collectively worship genocidal maniacs, but I guess I am supposed to get lost in this vague and subtle message.

A true flower can not blossom without sunlight and a true man can not live without love.

Not so Easily Fooled

Those few people could be telling the truth--I'm very skeptical of their words. Actually I believe that they don't want to get into a war with Iran--they want Americans to get into a war with Iran and finance it and die on their behalf.

The words and actions of so very many of these people, as well as the Israelis that I have met, tell a much different story.

Please take a look and share on all social media--thank you!

http://ifamericansknew.org/

What ever Israel decides to do, let's try to do our best to make certain that they do not use us and pull America down with them.

99% of the world

Simply wants to live and work in peace with their friends and family, the other 1% wants to make sure they don't, and have control over everything.

Bend Over

1%--Ha! If you think at least 25% of the population of the world wouldn't screw you over if it was beneficial enough for them, you're in for a rough ride. Don't be naïve and believe that 1% jive.

Has nothing to do with

Occupy protests or anything. And im not talking about greed, that is a human condition. im saying 1% of the population are psychopaths, the other 20 - 30 % , I believe, have simply been messed around by the system too much and have no sense of self. Messed up childhoods can be to blame for a lot, and in a free country with a free market, hence prosperity, these problems would be smaller.

Ill stickby my statement, 99% want to live in peace, 1% want to watch the world burn.

I think your right.

1% bad, 20-30 % corruptible, 70-80% just want to live their lives the best they can and 1% good.

you do know

there can be no peace on stolen land.
after the cameras shut down and the PR stunt is done, reality kicks in:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ey_oP2Goef4

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Zionist, IzUnReal, Jewish

Al mean the same thing to the palastin people who are displaced from genocide. Do you think a european invader sitting on stolen ground can offer peace to the very people they have genocided.

The terrible part is that its not about Zionist, IzUnReal, or Jewish. Its about, Rothschild bank crime family and their continued false debt slavery of man kind through their criminal false debt central banks.

sovereign