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For All Those Who Think Gay Marriage is About Human Rights-It's A Lie!

A lesbian finally gets honest about the true goals of the homosexual movement.

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My first thought was not

My first thought was not another gay marriage post. But it's true the whole thing is a scam led by people who regarded marriage generally as an evil institution. I don't know what the rank and file think or feel but the lobby leaders certainly aren't fans of marriage... whole thing is an obnoxious joke and frontal assault on a hated culture.

Satan's Soldiers

They think it's real funny there at the end, don't they. These people are the devil incarnate.

Churchs should not be forced to marry anyone they don't like.

...And preachers should not be allowed to keep diddling all the little boys.

Churches painted themselves into a legal corner

by giving away to the state-license, preeminence over the most holy relationship on earth, short of that which we can have with God Himself.

See my post below for more on this:
http://www.dailypaul.com/291536#comment-3323531

Find out just what any people will quietly submit to and you have the exact measure of the injustice and wrong which will be imposed on them. - Frederick Douglass

Bill to get gov out of marriage altogether.

I think the OK legislature is running a bill to get the gov out of marriage altogether.

Don't you think it's WEIRD that it is ILLEGAL to get married without permission from the government in the form of a LICENSE?

Isn't that OK bill a truly libertarian bill?

I think we have bigger fish

I think we have bigger fish to fry. But my two cents...I will draw the line when a church is forced to marry a gay couple.

wondering if last nights

wondering if last nights grammies was a mass gay ritual in public ... rather than gay rights.

The slogan press on has solved and always will solve the problems of the human race. No person was ever honored for what he received. Honor has been the reward for what he gave.

- Calvin Coolidge

No homosexual agenda?

If you think their is no homosexual agenda you are either stupid or not paying attention. The gay marriage thing is all about using government force as a weapon against Christianity.
How can I say such a thing?
That is what is being done right now.
Photographers and cake makers being sued out of business because they will not take part in a ceremony considered a sin by their religion.
How long till priests get sued for refusing to officiate?

How un-libertarian!

It is a sad country that considers where you decide to shove your dingaling of more value than ones entire value system/religion.

Note: being gay does not make you part of the agenda.
Many good people that just happen to be gay are just as against the agenda as I am.

"You only live free if your willing to die free."

One aspect of the agenda is to destroy free speech.

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Christians should not be warmongers! http://www.lewrockwell.com/vance/vance87.html

yup

Yes the gay section of the population are being used as weapons against free speech. Hate speech sound familiar?

"You only live free if your willing to die free."

All Knowing all powerfull government.

At what point did the citizens of America become such spineless cowardly helpless little welfare rats, that they decided to have the government to tell them who should marry who?

Good point!

Not every one uses a silly state contract to get married.
Some of us consider a preacher and vows enough :D

"You only live free if your willing to die free."

I don't give a rats arse who marries who

Doesn't have any impact on my marriage.

However, I have the absolute right to think being gay is weird, deviant, unhealthy for minors, and just plain old queer.

Accepting of "gay marriage" in no way means I accept their lifestyle. It just means I accept that before the law we must be equal and nothing else.

I sure wish people would quick falling for this red herring

Gay marriage is the last political issue anyone should be wasting time on with the financial crisis and our continual eroding personal liberties.

Frankly this lady is right in one aspect that the institution of marriage should be removed FROM THE GOVERNMENT.

If we left marriage to the churches, this issue would go away overnight.

Part of being free is letting people be free to make bad decision we don't always agree with.

Right

"If we left marriage to the churches, this issue would go away overnight."

Except that we don't so since the government is involved there must be a different solution.

"Once you become knowledgeable, you have an obligation to do something about it."- Ron Paul

Unless there is some other solution,

the reason the government is involved is because of divorce, especially where children are involved. Not all divorces are amicable. I guess there could be some contract beforehand that the married parties would agree to let some 3rd party serve as a binding ombudsman. But if one of the parties then has a "sue me" attitude, it's a problem. Sometimes arrangements regarding the children need to be enforced.

When we try to pick out anything by itself, we find it hitched to everything else in the Universe.
~ John Muir

I think you missed the point.

I think you missed the point. Of course government is involved in contract disputes, but why should they be involved in defining marriage? In other words, divorce is a separate issue from what he was talking about.

Andrew Napolitano for President 2016!
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"Patriotism should come from loving thy neighbor, not from worshiping Graven images." - ironman77

Instead of a downvote, why not

suggest an alternative solution?

When we try to pick out anything by itself, we find it hitched to everything else in the Universe.
~ John Muir

Exactly

this is a DIVIDING issue, let it go!

Wow

and they are laughing about it.

What people tend to forget (even in its imperfection with divorce). Heterosexual marriage and parenting is the fabric of society. If people cease to continue it society implodes.

"Once you become knowledgeable, you have an obligation to do something about it."- Ron Paul

I wonder...

What the rates of marriage were in pre-Nazi Germany?

I don't care

I don't live in Germany.

"Once you become knowledgeable, you have an obligation to do something about it."- Ron Paul

We have a government that is based on equality

We either let people be free to choose what they want to do or be or we don't. Simple as that.

Forget about what the Church has said. We were all built in God's image right? He created everything right? Well if those two things are true; everything is the way it is suppose to be.

Secondly gay rights is really a fight for equality, we should support the effort even we are straight or not. We must separate Church from State and this is the perfect case to do so.

It is not about what the church says.

"Forget about what the Church has said. We were all built in God's image right? He created everything right? Well if those two things are true; everything is the way it is suppose to be."

Your if then is false. You do not understand the bible.
Every thing is not the way it is supposed to be.
The Serpent, Eve, then Adam screwed it up.
We are supposed to be without sin and in the garden of Eden.

Using that argument we would be free to run around acting any way we like, which we are, but without consequences? That is simply not the case.

"Secondly gay rights is really a fight for equality"
No it is not. I argue it is a fight for special treatment, because that seems to be the results.
Special treatment is not libertarian.

"We must separate Church from State"
Why? That was neither our founders intention nor is it constitutional.

You sound an awful lot like a progressive, an oxymoron at best.

"You only live free if your willing to die free."

Gays have rights. They can

Gays have rights. They can buy property, go to court, etc. However, it is not a must that other people have to accept their deviant lifestyle.

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What people do in their bedroom is none of my business.

What people (consenting adults) do in their bedroom is none of my business.

Likewise, I would truly appreciate that some of them stop insisting or trying so hard to have whatever legislator whims of the time to be passed into laws to regulate every bit of what ought to be our strictly inter-personal and private affairs, such as marriage, child education, ... you name it.

Thank you very much in advance.

"Cyril" pronounced "see real". I code stuff.

http://Laissez-Faire.Me/Liberty

"To study and not think is a waste. To think and not study is dangerous." -- Confucius

Wrong. Human rights IS about gay marriage

as is womens rights and indigenous peoples rights, etc.
Human rights is what the United Nations established.
Individual rights/liberty is what God/nature established and our Founders accepted as our founding principle.
If the state hadn't interfered with marriage this 'problem' would not exist and marriage would be where it belongs, established through the recognized various religious ceremonies.
Civil unions may be recognized by the state, but that makes the state your god and all evils stem from that belief in the all-powerful state.
Until a gay couple seeks to marry in a muslim ceremony by an Imam and gets the go-ahead, I don't think they're actually serious about what they're doing. Like all things, the perverse want to erradicate or obfuscate traditions and their meanings. The freemason phrase "liberty, equality, fraternity" is not the same as "life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness." Revisionism is the goal of TPTB. Unfortunately, many here will not accept this fact.

If Tyranny and Oppression come to this land, it will be in the guise of fighting a foreign enemy.
James Madison

This is a non-issue.

This should be common sense, but if you really hate gay marriage so much, then by all means YOU don't marry anyone of the same sex. But remember that there is something called "freedom of religion" and "separation of Church and State." To force your religious views on other people is nothing short of intolerant. I don't care what kind of "gay agenda" conspiracy theory you guys come up with either. It's just all shameless scaremongering by the religious right.

your religious views are nothing short of intolerant

Pretending atheism or agnosticism aren't religious views is a shameless ploy.

Pretending anyone's behavior based on either of these theologies is neutral, or more virtuous; and therefore IT ought to be the only one deemed lawfully fair, IS the height of intolerance.

The churches are more at fault for buying into state licensing than either the state or same-sex folks are. When the Bible already gave them higher law to define marriage,"from the beginning", and Who joins and helps keep it as He designed it; they've abandoned the authority of Scripture, and the Common Law, to give the state permission-contract to be their means to meddle with it.

http://www.originalintent.org/edu/marriage.php

Why wouldn't same-sex folks seek to use this legal-lever to elevate their status, while church folks stand on the side-lines they've legally shut themselves into?! If same-sex folks had a view of marriage that they persuaded their community was worthy of honorable acknowledgement, that would be the way to establish good will towards themselves, even at law. When they seek the state's license to enforce their acceptance, or ELSE; they bring disfavor on some same-sex folks who don't want that state-licensed baggage to mar the good will they've sought to have with their neighbors.

Find out just what any people will quietly submit to and you have the exact measure of the injustice and wrong which will be imposed on them. - Frederick Douglass

If you hate war so much, then by all means YOU don't kill

anyone. But stop forcing your religious views on everyone else.

Sorry, I couldn't resist.

Christians should not be warmongers! http://www.lewrockwell.com/vance/vance87.html