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I think Edward Snowden is a false flag

778. Edward Snowden is a false flag (7/5/2013)

My conclusion based on the following facts.

1. Time line. It’s the development of the recent events, all related to the core plot- elimination of Kat Sung.

(1) The final stage of Boston bombing. It is marked by the killing of Toadshev in late May and the retirement announcement of the Boston FBI Chief in early June.

(2) On 6/7, an unusual private meeting between Obama and Xi (Chinese President) was arranged suddenly in California. Payment of the secret deal apparantly was an issue.

(3) On 6/14, “Former US National Security Agency (NSA) contractor Edward Snowden revealed to Hong Kong’s English-language newspaper, the South China Morning Post, on Wednesday that Washington has hacked into hundreds of civilian targets in Hong Kong and mainland China.” http://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2013/06/14/hong-j14.html

2. Obviously, Snowden’s revelation is the result of that private summit. It is part of payment of a secret deal between the secret police of US and China.

US recently “has repeatedly accused Beijing of perpetrating cyber-warfare, while China has continuously denied the accusations.

The latest round in this blame game saw the US Defense Science Board publish a report saying that nearly 40 Pentagon weapons programs and almost 30 other defense technologies were compromised by Chinese hackers, some allegedly tied to the military or government. (http://rt.com/news/obama-xi-cyber-hacking-356/)

It’s not a coincidence that Snowden chose Hong Kong as the place for his revelation. That’s a payment to China. His revelation largely releases the pressure on China.

3. It is a payment to Chinese secret police for their collaboration in Boston bombing. In which they confirmed one of the death was a Chinese student. They also joined a carjacking set up to trap Tsarnaev brothers. (mysterious Danny). Also for a big operation to create a bird flu which estimated 6.5 billion in cost. (see “774. China and bird flu (6/5/2013)”)

4. No information important has Snowden leaked to public because his job is just to release the “cyber spying” pressure from China. What he said is to prove US does same thing that China does. Government spying on people and foreign countries. That’s common sense. Americans know echelon, Patriot Act since 911. Civil rights has been damaged already. So what for Prism.

5. News said Snowden is helped by Wikeleaks in his travel plan and finance. It proves true what I alleged two years ago that Assange was a false flag. The master played behind them is the same organization. (see “655. Bin Laden and Julian Assange, False flag and living plant (12/7/2010)”)




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Just to mention I dont think Edward is still one of their assets

Just to mention I don't think Edward is still one of their assets being played with. I believe he really is genuine in this terrible situation he eventually decided to sacrifice his basic freedoms for, knowing the kind of men who are in charge, wanna-be almighty over all of us.

Beyond Ron Paul's, the most touching opinion about him and his stand that I found joining my own sentiment so far is Ray McGovern's:

http://www.dailypaul.com/291483/edward-snowden-did-the-right...

Beyond the mere telling of guts, when I listened really carefully for the third time to his breakthrough interview [ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5yB3n9fu-rM ], I paid special attention to the rhetoric he, no doubts, had prepared at minima before meeting the interviewers.

I cannot imagine any of today's intelligence agencies preparing anything like this. It's just so too contrariwise to the classic fallacies and strawmen they usually prepare for their psy-ops targeting the dumbed down MSM-brainwashed masses.

It is just too much "elaborated" and most importantly: way TOO MUCH putting the value in individual rights and liberties of each and every one from the people(s) above the "good intent of the state". That'be just too much sophisticated for them to try debase it afterwards; and for what would-be audience, anyway?

So, AFAICT, when you listen really attentively on how he LOGICALLY, non-emotionally, develops his answers and how he deconstructs the UNAVOIDABLE moral hazards of allowing an over-reaching power grab of a government arbitrary over its people's freedoms, it's difficult not to be struck, IMO, by the similarity with the genuinely higher moral standards of Dr. Ron Paul himself and his own speeches.

I am 99.999% sure that not only Edward has been influenced by Dr. Ron Paul's decades-long stand and thinking, but has also purposely given us sly hints of this, that few beyond us can even recognize at this point.

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I kind of enjoyed following your thinking...

but I can not agree with the conclusion. Ed Snowden, just a guy, American citizen, informing the public on government spying and privacy infringement. Sure, we all already knew what was going on, but his leaks have woken up a lot of sheep to what WE already knew.

Personally, I think this whole "Snowden is a false flag" meme is ridiculous. I think the theory that the man portrayed as Jeff Bauman in Boston not being Jeff Bauman holds more water than this one. But I digress... Boston is taboo here. Apparently "false flag whistleblowers" aren't though. Oh well... you win some and you lose some, I guess.

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I think katsung47 is a false

I think katsung47 is a false flag, evidence his post.

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-8 votes? way to go, katsung47 -waste our time

Wow -- on 7-6, negative 8 votes. katsung47, I do not see ANY basis on reality for any of your wild-guesses. The only thing I can guess is that you are an evil spook trying to befuddle and confuse the liberty folks. katsung47, Go lick Obomber's a-hole some more, and while you are at it, your puppet-master's (Evelyn deRothschild, and Jay Rockefeller).

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Consensus reality?

"Wow -- on 7-6, negative 8 votes. katsung47, I do not see ANY basis on reality for any of your wild-guesses."

So the guesses of other faulty humans at the truthiness of this report is enough for you to verify the truthiness in your own brain?

Well, I'm sorry you are forced to live there.

"So say we all", huh?

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No down vote here!

This whole thing seems to be for the purpose of acclimating the public to accept that this is going to be the norm. The where is WALDO thing is covering how bad this really is. What is the worst thing Snowden has told us? Does it compare to CIA director David Petraeus (Betraeus) own admission That the new smart devises (wifi washer and dryer refrigerator complete with camera ) will be used to spy on persons of interest. www.wired.com/dangerroom/2012/03/petraeus-tv-remote/?utm_ I believe we should charge Petraeus with whistle-blower status.

Do you think it is bad that

Do you think it is bad that so many people are talking about NSA spying? I have talked to so many people I know that never care about anything and now they are reevaluating things.

No, of course not

But it is not meant to control 'awakened' Americans anymore. That's what the FEMA camps are for.

The hour is late. The rules of the game have changed.

This is meant to LET YOU KNOW who your Masters are!

Welcome to the New World Order, they are telling you as much!
The Law is not the Law anymore!
Have you not been paying attention?!
They are not going to stop, they are not going to go away or roll over because the sheeple are talking about the latest fad.
Most care more about the pole dancing girlfriend, when they even talk about it.
We are the ones rolling over.
As far as the Elites are concerned, it's over. They have destroyed the Constitution and there has barely been a peep. Egyptians have more balls to stand up to tyranny than my fellow Americans. Quoting our Founding Fathers' is not enough, apparently. We have little choice left other than slavery if we do not follow the example set by our Founders, and earn the freedom that was fought so hard for by our forefathers...

...Or you can wait for Obama to make everything all better...

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Not about paying China, about Disclosure & Normalization...

...of the global Big-Brother police-state...

I don't think it has much to do with China or US governments, but about the NWO agenda.

This situation is no accident. I know it seems like a good thing, and that we are winning... and that's true to a degree, that's why they are ramping things up... and this is one of the ways they are doing it.

They can no longer keep the spying, the corruption and the scandals secret.

They cannot keep us under control with our own ignorance any longer. So they are reverting back to the old staple of control... FEAR.

This is disclosure... it had to happen... It's all part of the transition to open-tyranny and the big-brother state we have all been anticipating.

They watch everyone, literally billions a day, yet a guy working directly for NSA slips through the cracks... who happens to be a Ron Paul supporter... he escapes the USA to China & Russia, our biggest enemies and Obama's fellow commies... makes them look great, like they are more libertarian than the USA... I'm calling BS...

Sorry if you were totally played by the MSM... you should have stopped trusting anything they say a long time ago... like they haven't ignored this stuff for years... all of a sudden, in the midst of so many scandals, they start playing this up... and calling the Ron Paul supporting leaker, a traitor... This is part of the NWO plot... to divide and conquer America...

Obama said he's not going to "scramble jets for a 29 year old hacker"... but he scrambled them for a 16 year old US citizen named Al-Awlaki... Just like Bin Laden, TPTB are protecting him...

Remember Obama's whispering conversation with Medyedev about after the rigged election he would have more leeway, and to let Putin know as much... That's because these guys are all NWO, and are working together...

This is all being done to subvert the USA...

Our government has been completely infiltrated... Compromised...

We the People are America... and we are the only thing standing in the way of the New World Order...

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Hey, you only got to -3!

Try positing that he doesn't even exist, and you can get all the way down to -19! :)

http://www.dailypaul.com/290545/does-edward-snowden-even-exist

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I think you're crazy!

do I think I am right?
yes.

My only Concern

is the media. They are talking about this. And the media likes to ignore things that are not in line with their agenda.

And they are not ignoring this story at all.

too far bro

you are too far in the rabbit hole

stop listening to david ike... just stop...

Focus on informing others what the government is doing is wrong and inform them they should be encrypting their computers.

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don't stop listening to david icke...

use all available info to make your case

he is RIGHT on most things he talks about (no one is perfect or right ALL of the time)

other than that, i agree with you

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9/11 Truth.

Do you think that Snowden was

"in the loop", or used by people to bring this all about?
I have had issues with this case for sometime, but more with the people surrounding Mr Snowden than with the man himself. Mainly Bruce Fein.
http://21stcenturywire.com/2013/07/01/elder-snowden-engineer...

good question

idk

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Finally! Thank you

I thought the skepticism was gone from here. I'm not saying I think you've solved it, but I think you're looking in the right direction.

Well, kind of... not really...

...I'm sure that Boston and China are probably connected somehow and Snowden may even be a part of that deal or some complication like that... everything is connected... but I think the Snowden false-flag would not be 'unleashed' just to pay China, by somehow relieving pressure on them by putting more pressure on the US... that would only be one of the many stones they'd be trying to kill with this 'false-flag'... and a relatively small stone at that...

The big story here is the Disclosure & Normalization of the Global Big-Brother Surveillance state...

...and the fear and intimidation that goes with it...

...and the atrocities that follow when the people realize they live under tyranny, and do nothing about it...

The Powers That Be fully understand that they cannot continue to control the masses with their own willful ignorance for much longer... They are refuting back to the old staple of control: FEAR.

That's the New World Order folks... Guess what... It's here.

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didn't you hear? snowden retracted all and issued an apology

yeah, it's true that i am writing the story right now...

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