I'm Not Trying To Depress Anyone -- I Just Want You To See This For What It Is
Hot off the press:
It's around 1:15 in the afternoon here on the East Coast (USA) // I took a few minutes off from this excellent forum to catch a bite of lunch (actually some left over Chinese from yesterday) //
I was just now sitting in front of the TV watching CNN (and eating rice) and low and behold a talking head started speaking about the upcoming Florida voting process -- He told all of us listening that GIULIANI was considered by most to place THIRD below MCCAIN and ROMNEY. That was not good for my digestion, but I continued to listen and was told shortly afterwards that the Polls (??) show that in a combat between HILLARY and MCCAIN, ROMNEY, HUCKABEE -- HILLARY will come out the winner. Damn it.
The point I'm trying to express here is at no time was there mention of RON PAUL -- It's as if he doesn't exist, certainly not a candidate in the running for any presidential job. If he was 'running' then we'd be told he was -- wouldn't we?
Now is that fair? Of course it's not, but it just goes to show that MSM (in this example CNN) tells us who, what, and when -- those things THEY FEEL we need to know. Just the important stuff. And they don't want any of us recognizing the name of RON PAUL. That's the way it appears. The blatant SOB's.
** Somebody out there in computer-land with some real clout behind their name needs to stand up to these folks and tell them this kind of repeated ongoing exclusion has got to stop and stop immediately. It's simply not fair hearing from the news certain matters and KNOWING full well (well some of us anyway) that they are purposefully omitting a real candidate for President. I believe some heads oughta roll for this blatant disregard and slap in the face to all of us thousands and thousands of RON PAUL supporters. What the hell? How can they even think (??) they can continue to disenfranchise all of us (and RON PAUL) like this?
A spot on GLENN BECK is one thing but it certainly isn't comparable to all the other coverage we're not getting and should be getting. Fair is fair and MSM certainly isn't being that, to us, to the United States of America where our voice and our VOTE COUNTS (or at least they should be counted), and more importantly -- to RON PAUL.
Can't somebody seriously do something about this?
My rant.
What I am going to do IF the crooks, MSM keep stealing our voice
I have decided that because of the crooks, cheats, MSM and how they have shown their true colors during this election by ignoring our voices, votes, etc. I am going to leave the GOP party after being a member for over 40 years. I will no longer be a part of the deceitfulness and lies and distortion of not only the MSM but the GOP. We all need to depart the same day, of course after the election with Dr. Paul
Agree, RJ
If "they" cheat RP out of a nomination, and they have been doing everything possible to do so, I would love for RP to leave that Party and ask his supporters to join a different Party. We would know pretty quick as to how many supporters he has and it may be the beginning of the end for the GOP. They have been a disgrace the entire way.
Based on what I've seen, it will take 20 years to change the GOP. We were hoping the GOP would change their thinking along the way of this process, but it does not seem to be the case. There is still a little more time and maybe they'll shock us. I won't hold my breath, but I can assure you that if they don't, the blowback will be more than they could ever imagine.
Bob W., Naples, FL
Give me a break! This is nothing new
why are we here waisting time complaining about no coverage in old media? Because we know it before the eletions even started! Remember Ghulli portrayed as a frontrunner? Dr. Paul! Who
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So, move on!
concentrate your time, energy and efforts on:
- Getting precincts leader
- Getting the message out
- Making sure you registered to vote
- Donating to the campaign
- Supporting Grassroots efforts
If you want to beat the MSN and co, use their tools: Organize, plan, create schedule for your audience! Make the people know where to go get their informations: let's start www.wtpcast.com
I saw it too.
But I never expect to hear Ron Paul's name mentioned anymore on the MSM. These poor slobs take their marching orders from GE etc. and I think that a lot of the reporters are getting tired of taking the heat.
The world watches and is aghast at the unfair coverage of Ron Paul. Even the Pope chimed in about fixing the media. Witness the recent editor firings in the LA Times which had been favorable to the good doctor.
The revolution is here and the MSM had better get used to it.
a few thoughts
The longer the media ignores Dr. Paul's campaign, in my opinion, the better. The campaign has already stated that they plan to take this to a brokered convention. Let the media focus on John McCain and his war-mongering, on Mike Huckabee and his unfunded vision of theocracy, on Mitt Romney and his socialized Republicanism. Let them tear each other apart in the public eye while the economy falls apart like Guilliani's tattered party dress.
By the time the convention comes around, this country will be in such a deep economic morass, and the people so disgusted with the political infighting by the "legitimate" candidates, that they will be ready to listen to Dr. Paul and his ideas. The American people will feel, on some deep level, that this is the only candidate without an agenda, that he is the only one in the race on either side that is not lying to them. Probably the only candidate who is able to offer them hope, and the only one with an actual plan.
The small "l" liberal institution of our mainstream media is in it's final death throws; at heart, its members know this. For far too long they have served as the opinion makers of the American people. Faced with an aging demographic of viewer, and the inability to transfer profitably to the internet, they are facing an end to their oligopoly. Since the have chosen to focus on sensationalism and conflict as last resorts for revenue, they have little interest in covering Dr. Paul--a man of realism and peace.
Crying about unfair coverage in the media is not useful. If you feel that Dr. Paul is not getting a fair shot in the media, do something about it. Every time the media coverage (or lack thereof) infuriates you, go out into the world and get into a discussion with someone about politics. Familiarize yourself with Dr. Paul's ideas and plans so that when the person you are conversing with asks you questions, you can answer them intelligently. Conduct yourself in a mature, stable, and sane manner, and get the message out yourself. Boycott the media and their advertisers, help to hasten their demise.
Giving money to the campaign is great; but it is more important for you to vote in your primary election. Before you do this, make sure you know the rules of your precinct and your district. If you need help, visit the campaign's website. Familiarize yourself with the democratic process and gather with your fellow supporters. Stop worrying about vote fraud and dirty tricks. Of course vote fraud is happening. It always has and it always will. To believe any different is naive. Democracy is messy, and the people in charge will employ every possible trick they can to stay in power. Let the campaign and their lawyers deal with the fraud, focus on getting Dr. Paul's message out, and make sure you know exactly when, where, and how to vote in the primary elections. Make this your primary concern. (yes, the pun was intended)
It is my sincere belief that if we all follow these steps, then Dr. Paul will be the next president of the United States. There is no one in either party than can defend their positions against his logic and knowledge of economics. If we fail in support of this man, it will not be because we have been treated unfairly, it is because of our own inactivity, our inability to work within the system, and our unwillingness to take responsibility to get our message out to America. Nothing more, nothing less.
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"the only thing that keeps the banking system from failing is general ignorance about how the banking system works."
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Get REAL PEOPLE
Ron Paul is polling less than 10 percent....
I know it sucks, but it is a fact. The only time we get mentioned in the news is when we make the news.
''Well Rudy is not polling well'' But he was the early front runner, he is makig the news because of his fall from grace.
''well Huckabee gets coverage'' Because of his quick rise and win in Iowa.
Listen, how many stories did you see on Hunter, Tancredo, Biden, Kucinich, Gravel, Dodd. Not very may if any.
There is no giant conspiracy against Ron Paul. Those that believe that need to get real.
The campaign knew when they started this was going to have to be a grassroots campaign. WE MUST GET OUT THERE AND SPREAD THE WORD.
And not by doing sign waves or flying blimps. But by knocking on our neighbors doors. If I was not at work, that is where I would be right now.
Pizza God, anchovies must be good for the brain
because this is the most intelligent thing I've read all night.
sorry to say it..
I agree that this is a grassroots campaign and the only way to inform people about Ron Paul is by ALL OF US getting out there and doing it ourselves. That is true.
But..
There is quite obviously a media conspiracy against Ron Paul. I have seen him sidestepped too many times when there was ABSOLUTLY NO EXCUSE for it. Not polls, not fundraising, not primary finishes.. they ignore him because of his anti-establishment message and it's blatently obvious!
My opinion.. they plan on installing Hillary.. they have had this planned for years, and Ron Paul would be the only viable obstacle.
Agree
Go canvass....
WE:COME TO THE PARTY--RUNNING A LITTLE LATE THOUGH, UH?
Dr. Paul's MSMedia BLACKOUT has been going on for months though it has actually gotten worse over the last few weeks especially. He's gone from minimal exposure to absolutely none at all. It is the most blatant suppression of and discontempt for a Presidential Candidate by this country's Main Stream Media in it's history, barring none!. I would go as far as to say the PTB (NEO-CONS) behind this charade are presently guilty of and will at some point in the very near future (we can only hope and pray) be tried for HIGH TREASON. Charged for HIGH TREASON for very simply subverting the Constitution(the Supreme Law of the Land) and American Sovereignty and not to mention during "war" time. This crime is punishable by death.
WE:COME TO THE PARTY--RUNNING A LITTLE LATE THOUGH, UH?
Dr. Paul's MSMedia BLACKOUT has been going on for months though it has actually gotten worse over the last few weeks especially. He's gone from minimal exposure to absolutely none at all. It is the most blatant suppression of and discontempt for a Presidential Candidate by this country's Main Stream Media in it's history, barring none!. I would go as far as to say the PTB (NEO-CONS) behind this charade are presently guilty of and will at some point in the very near future (we can only hope and pray) be tried for HIGH TREASON. Charged for HIGH TREASON for very simply subverting the Constitution(the Supreme Law of the Land) and American Sovereignty and not to mention during "war" time. This crime is punishable by death.
It is un-american!
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I hope someone is making a documetary
An independent documetary on this would go a long way to putting the MSM on notice in the future. There is blatant proff of manipulation here. Not only RP coverage but Iraq, 911 the economy the list goes on and on. But I belive this RP coverage scandal is the most damning. Who killed the electric car has basically forced car companys to start making electric cars. And Al Gores incovienent truth has force everyone into a panic over global warming. We need a well done documetary that will win awards to bring americans closer to the truth about our propaganda I mean media providers. I really belive they are tying thier own rope with this stuff. It is all recorded and will be in the history books for generations to come.
continuetofight
Nobody watches the "NEWS" or takes it seriuosly
MSM is living in their own little worlds....They're gonna have a mental breakdown if RP Wins! Which I will enjoy watching...
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Where have you been? RP blackout since IOWA.
F_CK THE MSM
R3VOLUTION - Secret Crowds
If Ron Paul gave me the top FCC post
The first thing I would do is declare that the airwaves belong to the people and that no person or corporate entity could own or influence more than one frequency. All conglomerates in violation would have 30 days to divest and turn in their station rights for public auction.
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Washington doesn't need more lawyers.
It needs a doctor!
Dr. Ron Paul *** RX for Freedom
Washington doesn't need more lawyers.
It needs a doctor!
Dr. Ron Paul *** RX for Freedom
You are
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Be of good cheer!
Ron Paul for President!!!
They are putting their nail in their proverbial coffin! It shows how afraid they are of his message! Your paradigm is all wrong! Do you not think that thousands if not hundreds of thousands are not noticing this also?
We will prevail if we would start to realize how many people are starting to wake up to Dr. Paul's message!
Listen we must realize that Dr. Paul is a very intelligent man and if he is sitting back thinking of who he is going to put in his cabinet then rest assured that he has a plan and believe that he knows what he is doing!
One by one the others must drop out and in the end when only two or three are standing, he will then step up and point out the media bias that they have shown to him as a candidate!
The American People are waking up and we are winning votes the old fashion way, one at a time! Every person you come in contact with have them go to youtube and look up Ron Paul!
The problem is you don't realize the support Dr. Paul has but they do! If he had no support do you not think they would bring his name up?
We are the slaves and they don't want us to know how many of us there are!
No RP Blackout Tonight!
He will be on the debates and the economy WILL be addressed, another one of Ron's specialties! Tonight could really be a tipping point! MSNBC. I will have to watch a live feed. We dumped cable brainwash TV years ago!
Call everyone you know to tune in and watch history being made! Ron Paul will be giving some eductation to the American people.
The only way we can lose is to forget that we are winning!
ABC Did the same thing two nights ago
Nightline was reporting that Thompson had dropped out of the race, and the correspondent closed by saying that left Giuliani, Huckabee, McCain and Romney still in the race. No mention of Ron Paul. My email to Nightline elicited only an automated response.
Sure they'll interview Ron Paul, and they'll cover him as a sidebar to the regular election coverage, but they'll never let Ron Paul be a part of the main story - no matter how much money he raises or how well he does in the primaries.
I have no problems with what they are doing
It has happen to me already in my lifetime and once 2000 years ago. This is what the Desciples felt like when they walked Jesus Christ up that road to the cross. They probably turned and begged the elites in the community to please show mercy. They were probably spate upon and called heiretics ( our in todays world terrorist or enemy combatants). He spent his whole life being tested and marginalized. He did not fight back he just moved on to the next group of people who might want to hear what he had to say. In my life time people have faught to remove in God we trust from our money and one nation under God from our pledge. They did not do this because they had something that had stronger meaning to them to replace it with. They just did it because they were intolerant of me finding iny value in having it there. Most not all just do it out of spite not caring how I or others might feel about it. They are now in the process of removing any mention of the name Jesus from society. Not because they feel there is something that is superior to it but that they just don't agree with it and it seems to not be important to them so why say it. What I am saying to everyone here is these things really mean something to me and to others like my. Just because they mean nothing to you why do you feel like taking something away from others that gives them joy. I am only asking the question now because it is the most apropriate time to ask. It seems now there are many feeling the same way that I have felt when being attacked for no good reason. I do not say this to judge anyone only to point out at this moment what I have felt while being under attack in the same maner. It is appropriate at this time because it would probably be easer to take a step in my shoes while you have them on. Ron Paul does a great job representing us He will move on to the next person that is willing to listen and so should we. Keep up the good fight all. I love all of you and do not say anything with hate in my heart only to share my hurt with you so maybe there can be better understanding of how understanding is a powerful tool for pulling people together not dividing. I cannot change another I can only change myself and vice versa. Thanks for hearing me out and I hope you understand if not flame away I'm getting pretty think skinned.
Another point of view...
Your relationship with your god is up to you, and I cannot (and don't want to) force you to change your beliefs. Neither should you want to, or be allowed to force your beliefs on others. Would you want our currency or pledge to specify Allah or Zeus as our god?
The god mentioned in the Declaration and Constitution is a generic "creator" or"natures god" and not any specific deity.
"In god we trust" was not originally on our currency and "under god" vwas added to the pledge in the 1950's.
Us Ron Paul supporters really need to get past these petty religious differences and defend individual rights and individual sovereignty. We are all "kings" of our own little "kingdom". Google Badnariks "constitution class" for a detailed explanation.
No disrespect intended, just trying to help you understand Liberty and Individual Sovereignty.
...let it not be said that we did nothing.
-Ron Paul
reposted broken into paragraphs
It's difficult for me to read large blocks without paragraphs so I reposted this text (not my post) -- in case others have the same problem:
"It has happen to me already in my lifetime and once 2000 years ago. This is what the Desciples felt like when they walked Jesus Christ up that road to the cross. They probably turned and begged the elites in the community to please show mercy.
They were probably spate upon and called heiretics ( our in todays world terrorist or enemy combatants). He spent his whole life being tested and marginalized. He did not fight back he just moved on to the next group of people who might want to hear what he had to say. In my life time people have faught to remove in God we trust from our money and one nation under God from our pledge.
They did not do this because they had something that had stronger meaning to them to replace it with. They just did it because they were intolerant of me finding iny value in having it there. Most not all just do it out of spite not caring how I or others might feel about it. They are now in the process of removing any mention of the name Jesus from society. Not because they feel there is something that is superior to it but that they just don't agree with it and it seems to not be important to them so why say it.
What I am saying to everyone here is these things really mean something to me and to others like my. Just because they mean nothing to you why do you feel like taking something away from others that gives them joy. I am only asking the question now because it is the most apropriate time to ask. It seems now there are many feeling the same way that I have felt when being attacked for no good reason. I do not say this to judge anyone only to point out at this moment what I have felt while being under attack in the same maner.
It is appropriate at this time because it would probably be easer to take a step in my shoes while you have them on. Ron Paul does a great job representing us He will move on to the next person that is willing to listen and so should we. Keep up the good fight all. I love all of you and do not say anything with hate in my heart only to share my hurt with you so maybe there can be better understanding of how understanding is a powerful tool for pulling people together not dividing.
I cannot change another I can only change myself and vice versa. Thanks for hearing me out and I hope you understand if not flame away I'm getting pretty think skinned."
The National Motto
was once E Pluribus Unum. All the way until 1957, in fact. At least that motto included agnostics like myself. Why do you want my money to advertise for your deity? Why should I pay for this? How would you feel if our money said "in Cthulu we trust"? After all, it would make the Cthulu worshippers happy, right? What if they had all the influence?
The pledge of allegiance was a socialist contrivance in the first place, and the founders would have been rightly opposed to it. The phrase "under God" was added during the McCarthy era. The Knights of Columbus came up with the idea, effectively to falsely equate atheism and communism. I have to object to forcing children in government schools to take a religious oath. That's exactly what's happening in my state with the pledge.
This isn't to say I'm anti-Christian, but I really don't want government involved in promoting religions. And that's exactly what the movement that also added "so help me God" to oaths of office in the 50's was doing. They were doing it openly. Their message was quite clear: "If you don't believe in God, you're not a real American. You're a Pinko Commie Scumbag."
Let's face it, you don't need this stuff. It takes away from the mutual understanding that Americans are supposed to have in order to get along.
If you let government promote your own religion with impunity, then don't be surprised if the Greens replace "God" with "Gaia" someday.
Sam Marsh
Musician
http://www.myspace.com/screwthebastards
Sam Marsh
Musician
http://www.myspace.com/screwthebastards
Actually, i was never crazy about "e pluribus unum"
"out of many, one" - sounds too Hamiltonian to me.
But I'm kind of a crank.
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I've had it with the MSM. The only thing that we can do is to cancel our cable and stop watching them, stop buying what they advertise. Everything else is banging your head against the wall. Stop being a victim, and start fighting back.
Pass it on...
who owns the so-called "mainstream" media?
They are tools of their owners. They are acting as their owners prefer them to act. Owners of property have the prerogative on how that property is used. Yes, we have some "community" say, via the laws regulating use of the airwaves, but that's mostly a veto power (no gratuitous sex/violence, for example); beyond that, it's up to the owners what they want to show and not show via their media tools.
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What is begun in anger, ends in shame.
I was watching John Stewart
who mention this fact that you wrote about above to Newsweek editor. Stewart even mention Paul by name.
John asked, "is it ideological? What drives the news narrative?"---I believe that is how he asked his question.
Anyway the answer was very interesting to me. He said that the MSM are simply a bunch of "storytellers" and he said the "news cycle" is "controversy driven". He said, look at the headlines, its always, War against this, the battle against that. He said that reporters are always asked by their editors, "Where is the conflict? Where is the tension?"
So lets "play the MSM game".
Here is our candidate, Ron Paul.
Whats the narrative? Where is the Conflict? Where is the Tension?"
Again, in MSM own view of themselves and what "drives the story, what drives the narrative".....is "Where is the Conflict, Where is the Tension?"
So, lets look at the Grassroots. Where is the Conflict? Where is the Tension?
Ok, how about this:
HQ not listening to the Grassroots.
HQ not allowing the Grassroots to vote up or down on proposed expenses.
HQ not transparent with its game plan and expenses.
Now as a MSM news editor, then ask yourself, "is that news worthy enough that lots of people will want to read about it?" Answer: No.... who cares about that Conflict and Tension? Your reporter did a story that just a bunch of nerds in the Grassroots, care about, even HQ does not care.
So...my fellow Grassroots Ron Paul supporters.... HOW DO WE create Conflict and Tension? Notice a while back there was a news story about how RP supporters chanted around Rudy? Small story, but it had Conflict and Tension.
Lets put our collective thinking caps on. The Blimp has no Conflict and Tension....just the WOW factor.
How do we create Conflict and Tension? That is what --- according to a MSM big wig, creates the "news cycle story narrative; Conflict and Tension".
Notice how the MSM even LOOKS for it, when there really is none? Here the MSM has Obama and Hillary and its a lame debate. So they look for every slight, every bit of minor conflict and tension, and BLOW IT UP all over MSM. Why? Because these two are the "front runners" and MSM "wants to tell the story".
So lets ask ourselves.... what STORY do we wish to tell?
Here is our Product.... and its all about "packaging" our product well, then to get it into the "news cycle" we must have an interesting "narrative with lots of Conflict and Tension".
Any suggestions? Lets here them?
Should it be:
1) The baseball Player with a dream to be President--against all odds?
2) The country doctor who knows what ails American--goes against Washington insiders his whole life?
3) The reincarnation of a Founding Father, and what he will do to America?
FOR THE GRASSROOTS.....
1) To debate or not to debate, who is tough enough?
2) Compassionate Conservatives want war, Patriots want Peace.
3) To shoot the bastards now, or shoot the bastards later?
Ok, lets hear YOUR suggestions and Ideas to create the "News Cycle Narrative that has both Conflict and Tension"
Your ideas ....please. I am listening.
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HQ and grassroots
HQ can only be so involved with grassroots, there are guidelines. That is why it is called Grassroots and not " consultants to the campaign"
How do I know? I called the HQ weeks ago, and also the republican party
This deserves a thread of it's own
Damn it's frustrating here, where good substantive PLANNING discussions get swamped out by "naked guy" bullshit.
Is is a coincidence that the RP cause REALLY took off with the Rudy blowback showdown, and then the Fox black-out?
Evidence for your case in spades.
Sooo. I think RP has to challenge these clowns a LOT more. On ideas, not BS. NOT nasty, just challenging. Posed in such a way that the clown HAS to respond or will look like a dope (if you can imagine that).
So, here are the dopes:
1. Romney - Health care
2. Huck - taxes, immigration (i think religion is out of bounds UNLESS Huck brings it up then POW!
3. McCain - 100 year's war P.O.W. M.I.A.
4. Rudy - Dress size? 8, or 10?
like that.
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