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VOTE: Should The Granger Stay or Get Lost?

Today I received a notice from DP saying that my, "Pro", status expires tomorrow 10AM EST.

Should I pay to stay, or should I go with respect to those that have the privilege to down vote me into oblivion for free?

I believe in financially supporting the FREEDOM OF SPEECH because while freedom may be popular, freedom isn't free.

I have a FRIEND who says I spend way too much time on DP, yet today, that same FRIEND, offered to sponsor me for another year as a PRO.

So, this is how the voting for me to stay or go will work:

An up vote on this TOPIC ARTICLE means: "STAY GRANGER with DP".

Down votes will be counted on a post below: "GET LOST GRANGER!!"


BUMPS do not count as how one voted. The bump for this article only keeps the thread bumped for others to see, providing others the opportunity to vote for me to stay of go.

Up votes ON The TOPIC ARTICLE, and down votes on the, "GET LOST GRANGER!!", will be the only votes counted.

Personally, I think voting should be for PROs ONLY. Many of us have complained about the voting icon (and it could hurt (((MN))) as he has a paying customer to lose in this election due to those who cheat).

Will Granger Stay or Go? I leave it to the majority (and the voting icon) to determine.


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James Madison

There You Is

I was wondering when you were gonna show up.

I Would Like

to introduce you all to one of the other Israelis here on DP.

do what Ron Paul recommends

that is: do whatever you want to do.

Seems like you're popular here. If you get lost you won't be.

Lost & Found?
You won't be here, I suppose. It will be unclear where you will be...
So, if you do get lost, you will be with others that are also lost... might you? Make a lot of friends there too, I suppose.

Rather than vote on your motion, may I suggest the DailyPaul create a new gathering point: Neither Lost nor Found. Content to be here.

Disclaimer: Mark Twain (1835-1910-To be continued) is unlicensed. His river pilot's license went delinquent in 1862. Caution advised. Daily Paul

you should stay

The more the merrier, except for the crazies, which you clearly are not.

“The welfare of the people in particular has always been the alibi of tyrants.” — Albert Camus

Granger your funny

Stay, sit awhile, take your shoes off, ya'll come back now :)

Why does it matter so much to

Why does it matter so much to you what we all think?

If you dont want to pay anything, then dont.

That's all the attention you get from me today.

I'd say...

...just do what you're feeling led to do. There's always the option of just taking a break if you need it, without leaving altogether, too.


A garden is not the same without it's gnome.

The fact that we can vote you down, without charge, is a bonus.

She turned me into a newt

I got better. Burn her!

I say stay, it's good fun.

Me Thinks

The Granger should go beat ALL them Calidumpyu Liberals who signed Obama's petition to do away with the Bill Of Rights over the head thats what me thinks... ;)

The Granger should stay....

"If ever time should come, when vain and aspiring men shall possess the highest seats in Government, our country will stand in need of its experienced patriots to prevent its ruin."
Samuel Adams

Listen to your heart. That's

Listen to your heart. That's what I do. - Napoleon Dynamite

If you want to leave, then

If you want to leave, then leave. If not, then don't. Sounds like you're just itching for attention. I'm sorry I'm even giving this a bump, but I feel compelled to call it out.

You a little neo-conny for my taste BUT......

....you share GOLDEN experiences and pointers on how to take over the GOP and be effective.

It seems like all too often some of our rasch folks here throw the baby out with the bathwater.

If they don't like your pro-Israel stances they can ignore it BUT

NO ONE SHOULD IGNORE YOUR ADVICE AND EXPERIENCE SHARING with regards to how to take over and operate the GOP.

Your advice and guidance along those lines is PRECISELY what Ron Paul told us to do and you are consistent also with the WAY he told us to do that.

To me, people here like to carve up Ron Paul just like Christians like to carve up Jesus, i.e. ignore the parts they don't like.



This post is moot

The best thing is to stick to your own beliefs. Keep an open mind, listen to other arguments and analyze your beliefs so that they are as true to the real world as they can be.

Your viewpoint is always welcome, but your views seem so hypocritical and non-harmonious I can't even fathom what your world view must be like.

Your upholding of Israel as some shining star in the sky is laughable. Israel is as full of crap, corrupt politicians, questionable foreign policy as any other country.

Nothing should ever be above criticism. If you wish Israel to strive for perfection, you should be it's chief critic. Blindly defending something while not finding a single fault with it is a sheep-like position.

A good critic is NOT a detractor. You seem to often confuse the two.

I won't vote, since I don't think that the community should be taking sides over such a matter to begin with.

There are already enough trolls (not saying you are one of them) floating around trying to split the DP community.

But don't be hypocritical yourself.

I completely agree with you, but that goes both ways.

I have never seen Granger lead with support for Israel and I have ONLY seen him respond to hypocritical anti-Israel hotheads who CLAIM to be libertarian and Ron Paul supporters i.e. pro-non-interventionist foreign policy, but then turn around and want to tell Israel what it should or should not do.

I think Granger points OUT the hypocracy of others by providing them back a mirror image of what they themselves are doing.

If you are a TRUE Ron Paul supporter, 100% consistent with him, then you are NEITHER pro-Israel NOR anti-Israel because, frankly, it's none of your g-d business to begin with.

Unlike most folks on the DP

I follow Israeli politics closely, for my own reasons.

I am sometimes critical, sometimes not.

Your definition of a TRUE Ron Paul supporter is false. Ron Paul would want everyone to think for themselves, not follow him blindly.

Ron Paul is a noninterventionist with regards to foreign affairs

Im sorry, there's just no way around that. And there are many profound underlying principles as to why he is that.

If that escapes you then yes, you are "carving up Jesus" just like many neocon Christians like to do.

I love how my comment above got voted down.

On the DP the statement

"Ron Paul is noninterventionist with regards to foreign affairs"

gets voted down.

Talk about hypocracy! LOL

You make such a great example

In your attacks on Russia, Putin, the UN. But holy hell if we criticize Israel you disapprove. So I guess it's only okay to criticize other countries if YOU do it. Russia and the UN deserve criticism, but for cryin out loud at least be consistent.

Former head of the KGB....
Submitted by Spirit of '76 on Tue, 06/25/2013 - 14:24. Permalink

...Putin himself is the spy's spy. This is a cold war extension game for him and he knows how to play.

Just like a former agency member with unclear origins is president of this nation, Russia has the same.

It's a game for him. He's having fun poking us in the eye. Think Russia doesn't do exactly the same thing to its citizens? They have a long, long history of it. They just didn't get caught. DC did.

Putin ran Lyublyanka, Russia's Gitmo. Don't forget that.

Um that wasn't an attack.

It is a fact that Putin was head of the KGB.
It is a fact that Lyubyanka was a KGB prison.
It is a fact that Lyubyanka was where the KGB tortured people.

Where's the attack?


why would you want to?

Numbers don't lie. The Granger lives!

Now the bigger question:

Should Chris 'POL POT' Cudnoski have another potato pancake?

Vote this comment up if you think he's suffered enough potato pancake for one day.

Vote down if you want him to choke down another one.

Defeat the panda-industrial complex

I am dusk icon. anagram me.

Voted down

I won't vote down, and not come forward. So here goes:

We are talking about the woman who thought, and perhaps still thinks, that Farrakhan could be liberty's "missing speaker".

You treat politics like a hobby. A way to meet friends. An experience. Something to fill the void.

When you are routed in argument, you come back the next day in a new thread with the same lines. You don't care for the truth. Intelligent discourse seems beyond you; you ought to leave.

Go join a knitting club.

Was it something I said? I'm sorry.

The Dailie Paul theme song? The Clash


Deliberation, Determination, Destination. Then turn.

Free includes debt-free!

The DP wouldn't be the same

without you Granger. Stay on and feel the love!

we need..

all the voices we can get!

"What light is to the eyes - what air is to the lungs - what love is to the heart, liberty is to the soul of man."
-Robert Green Ingersoll

why would you leave it to us?

I don't know why anyone would want to leave the dp... Hopefully no one votes me off the island!

proverbs 20:15
There is gold, and an abundance of jewels;
But the lips of knowledge are a more precious thing.