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Fed Court throws out ‘state secret’ excuse, will hear NSA case

Today, a Federal Court rejected the president’s State Secret privilege claims in Jewel v. NSA and Shubert v. Obama. Until today, claims against warrantless spying have been prevented from having a hearing in court.

“The court rightly found that the traditional legal system can determine the legality of the mass, dragnet surveillance of innocent Americans and rejected the government’s invocation of the state secrets privilege to have the case dismissed,” said Cindy Cohn, EFF’s Legal Director. “Over the last month, we came face-to-face with new details of mass, untargeted collection of phone and Internet records, substantially confirmed by the Director of National Intelligence. Today’s decision sets the stage for finally getting a ruling that can stop the dragnet surveillance and restore Americans’ constitutional rights.”

More: http://iroots.org/2013/07/10/big-news-fed-court-throws-out-s...

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May this precedent work in Edward Snowden's favor as well

Great news!

Thanks for sharing.

Even if the judge rules its

Even if the judge rules its unconstitutional, I am not going to believe the program will be shut down. Its almost laughable to think that anything will be done. To me this is solely damage control. They needed to do something to seem legitimate. Just more theatrics by our 'glorious leaders.'

Besides we wouldn't want our data center in Utah to not get fully used. That would be a shame... *eye roll*

Yep

I'm sure the NSA will threaten the judges to rule that it's constitutional. Else somehow they'll be allowed to rule "unconstitutional" but, as you said, it will still go on. But since when does the "supreme law of the land" have to be obeyed? (eye roll)

My prediction

Snoewjob is going to close the borders on Americans.

deacon's picture

i hope you are wrong

but a little voice says otherwise
deacon

If we deny truth before your very eyes,then the rest of what we have to say,is of little consequence

me too

Nice

the courts get it right, sometimes.

"Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I'm not sure about the the universe."-- Albert Einstein

Ditto.

Ditto.

deacon's picture

more magicians tricks?

let the people think they get their day in court
get them to think it was fair.partial and honest
then let fly something like "you have no standing"
but in the end,they still lose (we),and the people will think,
well,we had our day in court,it was honest,the judge didn't rule in our favor
by hey!! at least we were heard.
and the masses will be appeased again
deacon

If we deny truth before your very eyes,then the rest of what we have to say,is of little consequence

blibber blabber

blibber-blabber blib blab blabber/blibber? Biubber! And further, blabber-blabber-blabber blibbity blubber? Blab-balb $%^& Blab. See?

"Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I'm not sure about the the universe."-- Albert Einstein

Yep

The NSA probably has a file on all the Judge's communications.

deacon's picture

darn B,

i had forgotten about that there implication,not sure how,but I did
deacon

If we deny truth before your very eyes,then the rest of what we have to say,is of little consequence

Exactly

I'm sure the judge will mysteriously drop the cases during the discovery phase.

Way to go

A court does something right - at least at this stage, and you are criticizing them for it. The legal system is messed up, make no mistake about it, but this was a good ruling. Instead of generating a negative response, you should be happy for it.

"Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I'm not sure about the the universe."-- Albert Einstein

deacon's picture

true

the only truthful thing out of your yap to date
the legal system is messed up.... it has useless idiots like you
running it,what do you expect?? seriously,how do you expect it to run
with people like you at the helm???
yadayada derp derpa derp blahblahblahblabablabba blurp blurp
see that,i can type stupid crap myself BIG DEAL
deacon :)

If we deny truth before your very eyes,then the rest of what we have to say,is of little consequence

funny

It's funny you should say what I posted was truthful, when it was about 180 degrees from your own post in this thread.

"Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I'm not sure about the the universe."-- Albert Einstein

deacon's picture

wrong again turner

your truthful comment was this
let me repost it
the legal system is messed up
THAT WAS THE ONLY TRUTHFUL THING YOU HAVE SAID
now,if you had read the whole comment,i told you and your kind is why it is messed up
it was not your whole comment just a snippet,a snippet,a byte,a ring tone
so no,you are not truthful,but still a liar,and yet again,you tried to twist my words,but nice try,try,try again,you turner of truth
deacon

If we deny truth before your very eyes,then the rest of what we have to say,is of little consequence

Hooray!

May good sense rule in the minds of judges.

EFF is worthy of your generous support.