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Neoncontinoid pesticides are derived from nicotine. Look under the heading, "What about safety".

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what the heck is a Noeoncontidroid?

did you make that word up?

Chris Indeedski!

Daily Paul cured my abibliophobia.

The issue was glyphosphate (RoundUp) is not a neonicotinoid.

Go back and reread the bet.

Of course neonicotinoids are chemically similar to nicotine. Nicotine was the first of the compounds discovered, and all of the new (NEO) nicotine derived chemicals (NICOTINOIDS) are called neonicotinoids.

Glyphosphate is an unrelated chemical. People are blaming Monsanto for the neonicotinoid link to Colony Collapse Disorder even though their herbicide has not been linked to anything.

Neonicotinoids are a class of

Neonicotinoids are a class of neuro-active insecticides chemically related to nicotine.

You said, "Glyphoshate is not neonicotinoid. Take the bet.."


Sugar 15,000
Table salt 3,320
Vitamin A 2,000
Aspirin 1,240
Caffeine 200
Petrol 159
Nicotine 53

Notice the last entry on the list - Nicotine.

Either you're completely delusional, a shill for Monsanto are just flat-out ignorant of chemistry. I don't believe for one minute you're any sort of expert in any medical field. This is high school logic.

Cirroco you have taught me a lot about how ignorant some are.

I've been aware that many true believers in the Natural Fallacy are rooted in ignorance, but you have the science knowledge of a 9th grader. I mean this dead seriously. Sadly you aren't even the worst one here on the DailyPaul.

We can't even have a conversation because you not only have ZERO UNDERSTANDING of chemistry or biology, you apparently can't even read a basic chart.

The chart is comparing the LD50 (lethal does for 50% of subjects) of various chemicals to keep the toxicity of glyphosate in perspective. The LD50 of glyphosate is 5,000 mg/kg. This means that it would take a higher dose to kill you than table salt (3,000 mg/kg) or aspirin (1,240 mg/kg). It also means that NICOTINE is far more toxic than glyphosate with an LD50 of 53 mg/kg.


(shrugs) If only you could

(shrugs) If only you could buy a toupee with some brains in it.



Sugar 15,000
Table salt 3,320
Vitamin A 2,000
Aspirin 1,240
Caffeine 200
Petrol 159
Nicotine 53

You've just established your

You've just established your ignorance.

It's not glyphosphate. It's glyphosate.

Will you now write the check you said you would? Doubtful.

For dducks -

No. You guys have no idea what you are talking about.

My eyes are open to how many fools are completely misleading other fools in science.

This is basic chemistry nomenclature here. Glyphosate has a glycine backbone, hence the name. Anyone with a background in biochemistry could identify that. This shouldn't even be a conversation.

I seriously feel like in Idiocracy. I've taught undergraduate organic chemistry, and I'm getting laughed at by Cirroco, who has the science background of a middle-schooler.

I have been giving the average DailyPauler way too much credit. No wonder people are so hostile. I should be explaining science like I'm talking to a child.

I have never had a scientific argument with you.

From my reading, Cirroco is correct.

You will not address what I say. Namely:
Is it safe to eat pesticides? Is it better not too? Is it safe to eat herbicides? Is it better not too? Should we be exposing every animal and human to the consumption of pesticides and herbicides? Why are 80% of US packaged foods by the governments of other countries, whom listen to their scientists?

I won't give you any more links because I know you don't read 'em. Not sure why I bother with the Socratic questioning 'cause you'll just keep making the argument about my lack of biochemical knowledge.

What you don't realize is that I have read all of your sources

All of the alternatice medicine blogs essentially cite the same tertible, politically motivated 3 studies. Every alternative medicine blog repackages the propaganda of the other blogs and oresebts it like new information.

If you think Cirrocco is right about anythibg in this conversation, you dont read either.


HuffPo and Yahoo are alternative medicine Blogs? Those were the sources. I have linked Wikipedia to you before too. Why not answer the questions? I know your answer. It is everybody's answer. Save some pscho-demented Monsanto Exec and his masters.

Great find!

This stuff is sprayed directly on Roundup Ready crops. Disgusting.

Just sent you e-mail about

Just sent you e-mail about what we were discussing earlier, Poopsiebuttons.

My Plants

All smoke anyway.

Be real careful, okay?

Be real careful, okay?