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Motorcycle Gang Taunts Dallas Cop

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What's the law on riding in the back of a pick-up in Dallas?

Wondering if that is why the cop was trying to pull over the truck. Seems they were carrying drugs, hence the pass off, then the passenger escaping the scene.

Kinda crazy to think a handful of organized people could create so much chaos for the officer. I guess it works both ways.

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Its legal in all of Texas to

Its legal in all of Texas to ride in the bed.

Southern Agrarian

Nobody got hurt.

looked like fun.I used to love riding my motorcycle and it was the closest thing to flying a poor boy could do.Many times I felt the most freedom in my life when I was riding that bike.True Freedom flying down the road with no cares.God I miss those days.True Freedom.

I love liberty like fresh cool air in my lungs.I love freedom like fresh cool water on my tongue.I love peace like the smooth skin of my sweet lady.And Dr.Ron Paul is the hero I believe will change the world.

I realize sometimes there are bad cops

but I can't support people behaving like chimpanzees on the highway.

The revolution seems to be headed is the wrong direction on this site, at times.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kz7EGY-iHR8

This dishonorable gang doesn't represent "the revolution."

They more closely resemble the gang of tyrants that operate the oppressive beast that the liberty movement seeks to dis-empower. This bunch doesn't seem to have any respect for the rule of law either. No need to assume that they identify with your morals.

If anything, let this demonstration reinforce the importance of self-defense. If I personally found myself in a similar situation I would simply maintain a safe speed and position and let them fly on by. So be it. Non-intervention is a powerful tool for survival.

To all those supporting these "Bikers"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UfhSLqMd4J8

This gang shutdown I-75 near Mockingbird last year (or the year before that). Just look at the video. You might as well think you are in Mogadishu, Somalia.

I-75 and Mockingbird is a major intersection in Dallas. If you had to catch a plane from Dallas LoveField airport, you can kiss it goodbye. A major hospital, called Parkland Hospital is also right there.

JUST LOOK AT THE PUNKS IN THE VIDEO. Bunch of people with assorted lineage plus add in a pinch of low class american kids.

I Can't fly anymore

The Authorities have made that impossible. I'm for letting every highway and roadway deteriorate back to the dirt that they're supposed to be. I will be happy in my horse drawn carriage.

Dont bother sri - the crazy anarchist - all cops are bad

bunch are in full affect!!

As long as there are bad cops

and the good cops are not tirelessly trying to stop their abuse of peoples rights and freedoms then there are no good cops, only less bad cops. These antics however are endangering innocent people so I cannot condone..it goes beyond civil disobedience.

I know what you mean

Life would be so much better if it were Somalia

And the funny thing is

The guy who died apparently drove in an Ambulance and perished. These punks shutdown a busy highway to somehow pay tribute to him by vandalizing it and causing trouble to other drivers on a busy highway.

Highly probable many of these punks were carrying to scare anyone who might object to their actions on that highway.

HAHAHAHA watch the guy drop

HAHAHAHA watch the guy drop his bike at 1:24 just before the camera pans away.

We all share this eternally evolving present moment- The past and future only exist as inconsequential mental fabrications.

Don't see that>?

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Start at 1:21. There is a guy

Start at 1:21. There is a guy in a black tank top on a red bike spinning brodies. Right before the camera pans away his tires catch and his drops the bike over in front of everyone.

We all share this eternally evolving present moment- The past and future only exist as inconsequential mental fabrications.

There's a time and place for everything....

Horsing around on a scooter shouldn't be done on a public highway! I agree that the officer should probably be ignored (we didn't see what the bikers had done prior to the beginning of this video...did they do something REALLY stupid on the road?), but I have been a witness to a couple bad wrecks of cars/trucks caused by bikers being irresponsible. My opinion of this is, they should ignore the officer, not taunt him. The rider who continually dove in front of the Crown Vic probably should have gotten a tap and some road rash just for being an ass.

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"The liberties of a people never were, nor ever will be, secure, when the transactions of their rulers may be concealed from them." - Patrick Henry

Get OFF my lawn you crazy kids w/your transistor radios...

and your steel horses! Those crazy kids are making this nice cop late to his next family dog murdering & if he doesn't murder that friendly dog soon he won't get to do it in front of the whole family!

Aaron Russo, Nikola Tesla, Ron Paul, I'm jus' sayin'

Liberty movement losing credibility - check

And DPers wonder why more people will not join the liberty movement openly.

To all you high fiving, ass slapping for these punks - have you ever been near a gang - or ever known a member. I am guessing not(or perhaps are punk ass members yourselves). Yeh - go cheer for a bunch of thugs putting innocent people in danger.

You do realize these same gangs are the ones violating the freedoms and liberties of any and all people they can run over(figuratively speaking).

Isn't this the same group that keeps screaming "you cant do that without probable cause" for every cop video. From the video I watched -there is not only cause - but actual crime being committed.
Cop should have ran into the bike in order to protect MY liberties as a law abiding citizen that may have been driving on the same highway.

Wow- now I know how you feel Granger

this is my first post down voted to the point of being collapsed.

A milestone for sure.

But as I preached to you - I will not let it get me down.

Who are they hurting? No

Who are they hurting? No one. The cop running into them would be trampling on their "liberty" instead of defending the public's. You must feel special calling yourself a law-abiding citizen. I guess in your mind if someone doesn't follow the law, they're a criminal regardless of if they are harming people.

Please come join my forum if you're not a trendy and agree with my points of view.

So you choose to make a childish attack instead

of using a counterpoint to my argument. Ok. Instead of a fast ball, I will now take out a softball and lob it so you may take a swing at it.

So I am driving down the highway going to work and a group(looks like at least 50 - probably more) bikes runs up on me in my truck. They are driving like complete assholes, weaving out of traffic and harassing me.

This is not hurting me? This is not violating my right to peacefully drive down a public road, free of harassment and with an expectation of safety?
Do their actions allow me to make an inference based upon the complete lack of safety and prudence they are showing?

Could I reasonably believe my safety was in danger and just run one over? If I bike was slowing down in front of me, could I reasonably assume the objective of the biker was to stop my vehicle in order to do me harm. Do I not have a right to then do whatever is necessary to maintain my speed to protect my safety?

You see, part of an officer legitimate job it prevent the kind of escalation.

You have no right to not be

You have no right to not be bothered. It's your decision how you react to things. This is like the argument people make for drugs being illegal. "Well, they could die from doing drugs and then their loved ones could commit suicide from the emo pain they experience from the drug-user's death." The person who would commit suicide from such a stupid thing obviously only reacts by emotion instead of logic, and still, it would be their own decision on how to react. Your arguments are nothing but "what ifs." Learn to ignore the immature, or people like me will just end up calling you immature, because you're acting like it.

Here is how life works. If that person on the bike loses control from horsing around and causes you or your property harm, then that's when your liberty has been taken. You can't go around taking the free will of people just because it could be dangerous, nor does the government have the right to act on the majority's behalf to do such things.

Childish attack? How about the next time some biker does something like you describe, you use your truck to stop them from doing so, and when you're taken to court for legitimate criminal charges, you can explain to them how your actions weren't childish because someone did something to you that actually caused you zero harm.

Please come join my forum if you're not a trendy and agree with my points of view.

You live in a fantasy world

So I only have recourse when actual damage occurs(which very well could mean my child is dead after my truck loses control and slams into a bridge abutment). That makes sense.

I guess I can pour diesel fuel on my property right up to the point where it crosses into your property THEN pollutes your well. The fact that my actions have a predictable outcome, of which have a high probability of directly affecting others safety is inconsequential.

I will play off your immature statement - not touching you, not touching you, not touching you. This is the basis of your argument.

In addition, you also contradict yourself.

"You can't go around taking the free will of people just because it could be dangerous, nor does the government have the right to act on the majority's behalf to do such things."
Then you follow up with

" How about the next time some biker does something like you describe, you use your truck to stop them from doing so, and when you're taken to court for legitimate criminal charges, you can explain to them how your actions weren't childish because someone did something to you that actually caused you zero harm."

I stated that I would maintain speed and not slow down. So who's free will rules here - mine or the bikes. I am obeying the law and socially acceptable practice of driving down the highway at a given speed. If I decide not to slow down - is that not my freewill to do so?

Yes, you only have recourse

Yes, you only have recourse when actual damage occurs.

Yes, you have a right to pour diesel fuel onto your property all you want until it pollutes another person's land.

Here is your statement: "Could I reasonably believe my safety was in danger and just run one over?"

Please come join my forum if you're not a trendy and agree with my points of view.

If the cop rammed

If the cop rammed one of the punk's bike ...then all the supposed "FUN" these pnks seem to have will come crashing down like their stupid inflated egos. Then all the oh so intelligent pnks will need to live with breaking the legs of one of their own. Or better yet, how about a spine.

Just because some cops are abusing their power does not mean anarchy like this should be encouraged. Just imagine you are traveling down the same road with your infant kids and suddenly you get caught in between these hordes of anti social bikers weaving in & out of lanes.

The fundamental postulate of Libertarianism is the freedom to anything as long as you don't violate your neighbor's life, liberty and property. To the extent that one citizen does not violate others citizens basic rights to these... we do favor a strong police force and justice system with the associated checks and balances. Libertarianism does not mean lawless Somalia.

I am going to write to Dallas PD thanking them for showing restraint in this case but I do understand if they instead decided to stop these people using appropriate methods.

I like how you got gang

I like how you got gang downvoted for your logical comment. The DP is devolving into a sort group think that uses the vote system to denigrate opposing viewpoints rather than actual constructive debates. If you disagree with sri, say why and we can have a rational dialogue on how we can use activism to stand up for our rights and move Liberty forward. Seeing people trolling over threads and downvoting posts you dont agree with is growing very old.

I agree with you wholeheartedly on this. We have a major issue with cops abusing power in this country but having your biker gang endanger others and harass law enforcement only solidifies this mentality. We should be approaching cops and talking about Oathkeepers and their proper role in society. Its one thing to stand up for your rights and not take a cop's shit if he is abusing his power but to go out of your way to create a scene does nothing to help our movement and plays right into the media/power structure's hands.

Big Daddy government works best when we act like children and the immature display these people are showing indicates they would rather perpetually 'rebel' against the state like rotten children instead of act like adults and prove to society that we can live with personal responsibility.

We all share this eternally evolving present moment- The past and future only exist as inconsequential mental fabrications.

Thank you

for a well reasoned response. Yes, Oathkeepers is the best idea. We want to approach them and get them on our side.

I have been stopped couple of times for traffic violations. In couple of instances, the cop let me off with just a warning even though i was clearly in the wrong ( brake light not working, not renewing state inspection, etcetra). I understand that cop is also a person with a wife and kids. One guy even thanked me for being a courteous person.

One of the reasons America is going down the toilet

is because of criminals like these bikers.

How long before crotch rockets get banned or prohibitively regulated? Think!

In my lifetime I've seen conditions of liberty and trust go from high to low.

As a high school student with no credit history, working in a factory on 3rd shift, I could walk into the company credit union at 3pm and the next morning I'd have a check waiting to go pick-up my new car.

I could write a check at the corner drug store for cash without even showing a driver's license.

Open a bank account in minutes and have checks in 2 days.

The list is endless.

We have aided and abetted our own loss of liberty by abusing trust at every level -- from the highest paid corporate leaders to the high school kid working part-time.

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Wait...

So your argument is that they should stop, allow themselves to be kidnapped and stolen from because they were in violation of some silly non-crime, instead of doing everything in their power to prevent it, so that they might be able to beg their oppressors to keep their "privilege" to ride their bikes?

You, my friend, have no understanding of what it means to be free and what it means to keep your freedom. Your freedom isn't kept by being obedient, it is kept through constant and diligent defiance in the face of unlawful authority.

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Since when is putting other peoples lives and safety in

jeopardy a silly non-crime.

I mean - I suppose I could just pull over and let the assholes go by, but then, wouldn't I just be submitting? I mean if I shouldn't submit to the cops authority - why should I have to submit to the gangs authority just to safely drive down the highway?

My head now hurts - so accordingly I have to submit to some unlawful authority(since, me by my lone self cannot possibly defend my liberty and freedom against such larger forces - either cops or gangs) - but yet you preach I should not submit. What a pickle this puts me in.

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They weren't being pulled over for puttng someone's life at risk

Read my comment below. They acted like that AGAINST the aggressor (the Cop), to avoid being pulled over and searched for drugs (most likely).

In order to fully understand the clip, you have to watch it to the very end. The cop had already initiated aggression against these bikers BEFORE they started behaving that way.

They were running interference, and protecting themselves.

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