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Is Adam Kokesh's Greatest Fear that People Will Do Nothing?

Now we find that the system is keeping Adam Kokesh in extremely poor conditions. I wonder if he is wondering about and fearful of the same thing Edward Snowden said he was: that the American People wouldn't care. That they would do nothing.

Is it too soon to ask this question? Does Adam Kokesh need to rot in a concrete corner for a couple years like Bradley Manning before people will start caring? Will the inevitable protests last into the blastingly cold dc December and beyond? Will the 'next big event', Snowden revelation, 3D gun, bond market, staged terror event, banker bailout, natural disaster, cause us to forget about Adam till 7-4-14 and beyond?

Are we behind Adam Kokesh or not?




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I have been to jail between 10 and 15 times as a protestor...

or through regular street crimes.

(startpage my name if you don't believe me.)

and I've been writing a guide to going to jail in my head for a while now. Would you like to read it?

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Activism activism activism

Happy to report some activists are doing what needs to be done:
http://www.dailypaul.com/292293/free-adam-kokesh-prison-rall...

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Love won! Deliverance from Tyranny is on the way! Col. 2:13-15

to hell with doing nothing

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Love won! Deliverance from Tyranny is on the way! Col. 2:13-15

Yes, Everyone has the right to counsel.

I that the consensus?

Free includes debt-free!

1 is consumed, any left?

What is left over, after the criminals gorge upon their ready supply of victims?

It is way past time to begin thinking in terms of power, and that is not an opinion, so much as it is an accurate angle of view.

If a person thinks in terms of Master/Slave, then there are three obvious, competitive, angles of view from that position.

1.
Look from the view of the Master plotting to overpower, consume, the slaves.

2.
Look from the view of the Slave working to avoid being consumed by the Master.

3.
Look from the view of neither Master or Slave and merely understand how the relationship works in real time.

Which is the powerless, and which is the powerful angle of view?

Which is the monopoly, non-competitive, consuming, destructive, powerless, dictatorial, subjective, viewpoint?

Which is the liberating, competitive, producing, productive, powerful, creative, adaptive, viewpoint?

When stuck in the Master/Slave dialectic there are only a few possible things to do, a list of things, from 3 categories.

1.
Falsehood
2.
Threats
3.
Violence

All 3 modes of conduct are dictated upon the subject within the Master/Slave dialectic, or Monopoly, and there is no escape from it, since it consumes everyone, eventually.

All 3 modes of conduct are exactly the same things done by everyone who volunteers, or is forced into, a life of crime.

It is crime.

In one word, it is crime.

Since the victims have figured out a way to get out of the subjective loop of dictatorial Master/Slave associations, there is another word required to add to the word crime, so as to explain how the criminals are then able to regain control of their Master/Slave dialectic, and recreate crime where there is Liberty.

Liberty exists.

Then there are criminals that create crime, or create Master/Slave Monopolies, whereby competition is then eliminated, and everyone is consuming everyone else, in crime.

Then the former slaves adapt, produce, and create defense against crime, in many competitive forms, and thereby the pay rate of criminals reduces to zero, and crime no longer pays, so there is then a return, or "revolution" back to Liberty.

1.
Liberty (Natural order of mankind)

2.
Crime (Un-natural disorder of mankind)

3.
Revolution, so called (the fact that the word "revolution" is misleading is incuplatory evidence proving the fact of crime), returns a State of Crime back to a condition of Liberty.

4.
Criminals retake control over their targeted victims.

What is 4?

4 is Legal Crime.

Now what?

Another "Revolution," so called?

The answer is no.

The word revolution, itself, is a false front. The natural state of mankind is peace and harmony, so a return to peace and harmony, where crime no longer pays so well, is not a revolution, it is, in fact, a counter to the invention, production, and maintenance of organized crime, or Legal Crime.

So how does human kind return back to Liberty when at this point so much of the total power produced by the honest producers has been stolen by the organized criminals, or Legal Criminals?

One individual honest producer at a time is being consumed by the organized criminals, or Legal Criminals, one way, or the other way, until there will no longer be an honest producer to turn, incorporate into the Master/Slave Dialectic, or warehouse, or torture, or murder.

One more is too many.

One more loss of one more innocent, honest, producer, is one more source of productive POWER that will be rendered incapable to respond, unable to respond, to the inevitable conditions of abject poverty, complete scarcity, that ensues on this Master/Slave path, whereby the LAW of Diminishing Returns sets in.

One more honest producer who can produce one more calorie of honest, nutritious, food, for equitable trade, is one more source of that necessary POWER LOST, when one more honest producer is consumed by the Legal Criminals running their Fraud and Extortion Racket that they call "government," and whereby the victims parrot that lie.

If one more is gone, is there another to take the place of that LOST POWER?

One more competitive, thinking, adaptive, creative, honest, producer of POWER gone.

Is there anyone to replace that one?

If not, then the human species is on the cannibalistic path.

The LAW of Diminishing returns sets in, and human beings are no different than RATS.

How many slaves are left?

If the slave can't produce anything worth stealing, then it is not a slave, it is a cost.

It is how they think.

It is a consumable.

It was once a human being.

It is replaced by another thing to be used up, consumed, for those who control it.

What happens when there are no more individual slaves to be consumed by the criminals?

One at a time, each one in turn, falls prey to the criminals, as if a conveyor belt is built, by orders from the criminals, and the obedient slaves build the conveyor built in good working order.

Each new innocent, honest, inventive, adaptive, producer is then placed on the conveyor belt, each one in turn, and each one is consumed in that cannibalistic inhuman hell on earth.

One at a time, each in turn, having never, ever, imagined any other fate by any one.

MONOPOLY

OBEY

Legal Crime

Actually there are competitive solutions.

Here is one, and when I return I can elaborate on how this one could work in this case.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=B3no...

Joe

What're we supposed to do,

What're we supposed to do, Chris?

We're on the same team but the man clearly has a martyr complex. He's acting rashly and encouraging others, some just kids, to do the same. He's putting himself and others in danger from the authorities.

We have to win the battle in the idea sphere first before we see institutions change. That's what frustrates me about Kokesh. He's articulate. He's a principled libertarian. But his methods, IMO, leave a lot to be desired and may even be damaging to the cause.

Maybe I'm wrong. I hope I am and that his actions spark a groundswell of protest. But my guess is that he'll be successfully painted as a dangerous right wing radical anarchist and that his association with the liberty movement will tarnish it.

You simply can't be calling for the overthrow of the govt and connect with the average Joe.

Never trouble trouble til trouble troubles you. Fortune Cookie

He is not calling for the overthrow of "the" government

He is calling for the dissolution of the federal government while maintaing
the state governments. Who, presumably, would then decide whether or how
to create a new national government entity...

To connect with the average Joe, it might be worth pointing out to him that
if the feds can come busting in and charge someone with a felony for possessing
a gun because the also possess a federally controlled substance that there are
millions of homes where they could potentially to the exact same thing:

http://www.dailypaul.com/278921/900-pound-gorilla-of-gun-con...

My friend Tammy's dog is 1/4 Wolf...

the Husky and Black Labrador in her are well-behaved. But when the wolf part of her takes over you just have to get out of the way. I believe the 1776 nature in the American people can also be awakened.

And it would be best not to get in its way...

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Hurray

for Stand Up Men and Women and that little bit of Wolf in all of us~

Garnet
Daughter of 1776 American Revolutionists

both you guys make some valid

both you guys make some valid points

Double standard time ...

Free Adam Kokesh or we riot in the streets ( Liberty )

Lock up George Zimmerman or we riot in the streets ( Slavery )

Life is a sexually transmitted disease with a 100% fatality rate.
Don't Give me Liberty, I'll get up and get it myself!

I thought we we at a consensus

that two wrongs don't make a right and why vote for the lesser of two evils.

bump for whoever downvoted your great comment...

p.s. love your signature. Did you know insanity is hereditary?

Apparently people get it from your kids.

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if that's his greatest fear,

perhaps this is his greatest hope:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-XarpddX1BI

“With laws shall our land be built up, but with lawlessness laid waste.”
-Njal Thorgeirsson

Imagine if someone made a Gandhi II...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QfvLcozLwtE

hopefully it won't come down to salt...

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I don't know about Adam, but that is MY greatest fear.

Worst case scenario: Adam has chosen his time, place and circumstance for which to die. No true warrior can ask for more than that.

Were it not for the Alex Jones interview...

we would not have what may be Adam's final thoughts ever made public.

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Yup. His last interview is one of the best

articulation and debate between a minarchist and an ancap in recent memeory; to wit:

Adam Kokesh's Last Interview Before SWAT Raid

TheAlexJonesChannel
Published on Jul 10, 2013

http://youtu.be/a46u_yI3RoQ

Alex Jones speaks with Talk Show Host/Activist/Patriot Adam Kokesh about his unrelenting stand against the illegal enforcement of nonexistent gun laws in our Nation's Delusional Capital.

When someone as assertive and bulldog-y as AJ and while well-meaning and subtle but nonetheless still oft selectively ego-driven Adam can have substantive intellectual discussions about where they agree and where they don't, cordially, it makes some recent AnCap VERSUS Minarchist or Constitutionalist spat here at the Daily Paul devolving into childish nonsense, all the more disgusting, especially when it's being led by particularly a few vile "Johny Come Latelys" who are actually more driven by their delusional need to 'purge' AnCaps here, than flesh out actual substantive differences and focus where we ALL actually agree on.

Either way, there's no centrally planned roadmap to liberty. Most ancaps still use FRNs, roads, DMV licenses, PassPorts etc. What counts is that the vision is to be more voluntary and reject coercion. You'd think that's something we all can agree on here at DP, but alas, it seems often we need to constantly do a Liberty Primer 101 on definition of what constitutes "initiation of force" and what the actual definition of "coercion" is. Frankly, it's dismaying and tiresome when one does this all day vs. statists, and have to re-rebut here at DailyPaul, of all places.

Sure, in the interim, at an era where most public are zombie sheeple who can't even follow nor comprehend the written Constitution we already have, with rest of the world full of violent warring states who WILL take advantage of America's collapse, the prospect of living in a more voluntary society into what may at 'worst' resemble Switzerland seems like a far fetched la la land, does that negate the moral fortitude in PURSUING a more free voluntary means of associating with each other? I'd heartily posit: no. Sure, jail the banksters responsible for fraud & murderous wars and the ensuing econ collapse. OMG! You mean using the currently existent govt mechanism? Um, yes! But hey, at least we got plenty of private prisons these same a-holes built with stolen taxpayer 'money.'

I'd say let them live in it, and feed themselves with what's only there. If they perish? Tough shiite. I can think of no more PEACEFUL, just and fitting poetic justice, than that. Which is why, even as an AnCap, and a student of history, I fully appreciate AJ's minarchist position, as I can clearly see WHY he is more resistant to the idea of a full-on true free-market anarchy, than Adam is currently advocating (even though, Adam himself commits a lot of inconsistent fallacies, when he says that he's for true anarchy, but promotes state goverments; that said, I 'get' that he's forwarding as an evolutionary step, eventually toward a much more voluntary society...which shouldn't come as a surprise is what AJ also wants; he just believes from studying history, observing current state of the sheeple populace, and seeing as how we DON'T have an actual Const. Republic and that banksters have both de facto and de jure hijacked the govt, regardless of the fact that in fact that is what ALWAYS 100% happens with EVERY SINGLE GOVT humanity has ever established, if he too had his druthers, AJ would in fact prefer a more voluntary society. He just sees 're-uploading' the Republic as a faster more stable way to reach a more voluntary society.

It's always more about HOW we get there, that is in dispute, NOT where.

Perhaps, it'd bode well to remind ourselves of that, from time to time, even at the Daily Paul, for those who see more 'value' in bickering over what little differences minarchist/constitutionalists have with AnCaps. Seriously, if you are among those who believe there's a 'gulf' between those two groups, DO remind yourself of the ideological/philosophical gulf between you, vs. a neoCon or a 'progressive/liberal.'

Perspective, y'all. Perspective...

Predictions in due Time...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zGDisyWkIBM

"Let it not be said that no one cared, that no one objected once it's realized that our liberties and wealth are in jeopardy." - Dr. Ronald Ernest Paul

Why all the strong connections to Russia with these guys?

Is it related to the hundreds of Russian citizens brought in under the UN-administered Soviet Lend-lease program of WWII, as chronicled by Major George Racey Jordan, patron saint of whistleblowers?

http://www.dailypaul.com/248385/major-racey-jordan-treason-a...

http://www.dailypaul.com/287542/from-major-jordans-diaries-t...

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