5 votes

Veterans Today Says Assange and Snowden Are



Trending on the Web

Comment viewing options

Select your preferred way to display the comments and click "Save settings" to activate your changes.

fresh article from dean concerning this TOPIC

http://www.presstv.ir/detail/2013/07/11/313314/nsa-spying-ne...
read the comments as well people as JIM actually replies to people in the comments.

Hey assange and snowden

where's the revelation that IDF snipers are responsible for killing 300 to 400 plus american marines in IRAQ ?

http://vimeo.com/26902861

why isn't that being blasted over the media waves
"CENSORSHIP"

USE DISCERNMENT PEOPLE...THIS WORLD AIN'T ALL WHAT ITS CRACKED UP TO BE.

again in my opnion JIM W. DEAN knocks it outta the park with this one.

"He's this eccentric Ghandi-Like figure that you cant touch with the normal bribes that people respond to."
the man Doug Wead on DR. RON PAUL

hmm standing by my analysis

"This seems to be having a worldwide effect of drumming up even more hatred for our country , especially in the latin american countries and now with russia about to grant him asylum , this will most certainly put a more decisive wedge between america and putins government."

i posted that earlier today ,

then i saw this headline on RT about 5 minutes ago.

"S. American states to recall ambassadors from Europe over Bolivian plane incident"

http://rt.com/news/mercosur-countries-ambassadors-europe-030/

trust these guys, they wouldnt lie to you.
https://twitter.com/57UN/status/355728715457654785/photo/1

this is all about bring more polarization to the WORLD, all while bringing down and disgracing USA.

“The gravity of the incident - indicative of a neocolonial mindset - constitutes an unfriendly and hostile act, which violates human rights and impedes freedom of travel, as well as the treatment and immunity appropriate to a head of state,” the Mercosur nations affirmed in the joint statement.

"He's this eccentric Ghandi-Like figure that you cant touch with the normal bribes that people respond to."
the man Doug Wead on DR. RON PAUL

I dont know about assange and

I dont know about assange and snowden, but it sure seems "SOMEONES" been exposed as a fake, assuming this "someone" says they support civil liberties, you know, those covered by the constitution and bill of rights, if not, i guess not a fake, just a plain old ordinary "dick" then

Boy, i wish we had "more" of them /sarc

Jefferson's picture

This

is an interesting take, even though I may or may not agree with all of it.

I feel it is important to take it all with a grain of salt and quietly observe what the proposed outcome or solution is going to be. Who benefits in the end?

It is also important to have some counterbalance to some of the very public things that are currently happening.
"Dissent is the highest form of patriotism"

"Patriotism DEMANDS debate," not blind acceptance. (no matter how tempting it may be)

Just because it's a bandwagon many people are jumping on, doesn't mean it's a safe one. And, no, not everything is a conspiracy, but they're not all coincidences either.

To me, the Michael Hastings death is much more believable as a whistleblower story than anything else. Look how the MSM wants to ignore the story.

"Beware the crusader/s."

Interesting.

.

Sibel Edmonds, Daniel Ellsberg, Wayne Madsen . . .

All former whistleblowers have given their support for Edward Snowden. Have there been any whistleblowers that have expressed their doubts as to Snowden's motives and authenticity?

Have we all been duped, as VT would assume?

again

you only know their names because someone wanted you to know their names.

sibel edmonds has had her articles on vtoday as well as madsen too.

they are good people although duff says he doesnt trust madsen as far as he could throw him.

USE YOUR DISCNERMENT PEOPLE !!

I generally like sibel and believe much of what she says,
madsen not so much.

"He's this eccentric Ghandi-Like figure that you cant touch with the normal bribes that people respond to."
the man Doug Wead on DR. RON PAUL

Assange/Snowden Connections Do Not Matter

We should not waste expose' opportunities worrying about how Assange/Snowden developed. Instead, we should use the opportunities to talk about the need to address the problems of politicians who are out of control.

This morning, I heard an interview with a German commentator concerning the NSA. He said that the NSA is much more powerful than than anything that ever happened in Germany during the days of WWII. You would not have heard this on MSM a few months ago.

Before - the MSM and the public would not consider the fact that their tax money was being used against them.

After - it is a common discussion on the MSM and on the streets to acknowledge the constitutional breeches.

It might not have changed any minds, but it has exposed the supporters of the big state concept. And has highlighted the character of the people running the government.

Gene Louis
http://www.survivaloftheslickest.com/
Supporting a Needed Tool for Government Feedback:
A Citizen-Operated Legal System.

YEAH how many more leaks will it take ???

I think ill-informed americans since sept 11 have known that the GOVERNMENT IS DOING ANY AND ALL THE THINGS THEY THINK THEY NEED TO DO , to keep us american citizens safe. stripping away all rights.

our politicians have been way to lenient giving up OUR RIGHTS.

the discussion should be about HOW WE GOT HERE and WHO VOTED AND LET IT HAPPEN THIS WAY.

but still wikileak's ASSANGE have had an agenda this whole time and clearly have some sort of HANDLERS due to the clearly pointed intelligence released !!!!

look up brezinski

"He's this eccentric Ghandi-Like figure that you cant touch with the normal bribes that people respond to."
the man Doug Wead on DR. RON PAUL

If Snowden and Assange are "fakers"

where does that leave Bradley Manning?

manning

manning looks a little queer to me.
assange looks a little queer to me.

did these guys ever hook up ? who knows?

what is assange wanted for again , why is he hiding in the equadorian emabassy for so long ?

hmmm....

why has'nt assange applied for asylum for protection from whatever it is he is being persecuted for ?

hmm..

what was it that manning released that damaged the american military image so much ?

seems like to me the military damages its own name all the time, it really needed help from assange and manning?

THINK ABOUT THE ISRAELI MOSSAD CONNECTIONS HERE PEOPLE.

ORGANIZED CRIME RUNS MUCH OF THE WORLD ,
the only reason why we know names such as
MANNING, ASSANGE OR SNOWDEN is because some part of the BIFURACTED/ORGANIZED CRIME SYNDICATES WANTS US TO KNOW THEIR NAMES.

http://www.dailypaul.com/292260/snowden-immoral-cannot-be-ma...

snowden sure seems comfortable in this video
COMFORTABLE

"He's this eccentric Ghandi-Like figure that you cant touch with the normal bribes that people respond to."
the man Doug Wead on DR. RON PAUL

Looks a little "queer"?

What does that have to do with anything?

Comments like that speaks volumes.

So, are there any REAL whistleblowers?

??

Be careful when it comes to

Be careful when it comes to veterenstoday

Although they do release some good articles, false information is plentiful there.

agreed

I am more way carfeul of visting sites like:

intellihub
shtfplan

and so on

It is 2013 , you can't trust any REAL news on the web at all.

its all about DISCERMENT,

LEARN TO DISCERN,

I am finding that more than not
JIM DEAN and DUFF are more on point than others out there, also alot of people mimick these guys work or copy it entirely and give no credit.

You have to really read in between the lines on some of duffs articles where as JIM W. DEANS articles no reading in between the
lines is required.

READING BETWEEN THE LINES is always needed when reading an AP article or any MAINSTREAM article, they always twist or leave out KEY INFORMATION.

HERE IS AN EXAMPLE OF THE DISCERNMENT YOU NEED TO ATTAIN,

remember this doozy ,
http://www.dailypaul.com/291540/corbett-report-crashes-of-co...

CORBETT HAD AN EXECELLENT VIDEO HERE COVERING LOTS OF KEY INFO REGARDING THE HASTINGS EXPLOSION.

Hmm what has been scrubbed from his video WITH NO MENTION OR NO ACKNOWLDGMENT. (LETS SEE)

DUFFS ARTICLE FROM JUNE 19TH
http://www.veteranstoday.com/2013/06/19/we-got-the-message/

WATCH THE YOUTUBE LINK IN DUFFS ARTICLE , LAST 20 SECONDS OF THE VIDEO ,

this is the emergency group that was SUPPOSEDLY first on scene to the hastings explosion.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hatzalah

Hmmm.... why not bring this up in your 42 minute video corbett? interesting whitewash there.

its all about discernment and Corroborating people Stories with other peoples stories

get at it DAILY PAUL PEOPLE , lets find the truth!

"He's this eccentric Ghandi-Like figure that you cant touch with the normal bribes that people respond to."
the man Doug Wead on DR. RON PAUL

that's a very good point

it seems Corbett never really touches on our chosen friends involvement...

hmm

"If this mischievous financial policy [greenbacks], which has its origin in North America, should become endurated down to a fixture, then that government will furnish its own money without cost. It will pay off its debts and be without debts. It will hav

Snowden is most likely still working for the CIA!

We have known for years for the NSA has been doing. The NSA has seen increases in funding while the CIA has been losing it. The CIA is upset that the NSA is now the favorite spy child. Snowden worked for the CIA and has only been a contractor to the NSA for a short time. He probably doesn't have as much security clearance as he says he does. The CIA most likely had him release this information to get the public upset about the spying. They hope NSA funding will be cut and given to the CIA instead. This is how the CIA operates. I have no proof and most likely never will. It's just the feeling that I get.

YOU ARE ON THE MONEY SIR

this is what duff and hankey are talking about:

BIFURCATION is the keyword.

There seems to be behind the scenes alot of back and forth infighting between all of these government factions.

and agreed they all wont to GROW and be awarded those FEDERAL DOLLARS!

"He's this eccentric Ghandi-Like figure that you cant touch with the normal bribes that people respond to."
the man Doug Wead on DR. RON PAUL

downvotes are fun

I wonder how many downvoters have actually taken the time to actually READ the articles that duff has put out over ASSANGE and SNOWDEN.

now regardles what you think of vt today and duff , if you have done any investigating not just taking articles written on the internet as the holy grail, you will notice that something never was right with wikileaks in general.

Look into BREZINKSI stating that the intelligence coming from ASSANGE as being pointed intelligence, meaning anything ASSANGE AND WIKILEAKS has ever released to the public has been scrubbed by certain (israeli)intelligence agencies before being released to the PUBLIC.

WHERE IS ASSANGE'S OUTRAGE OVER 9-11 and other calamities as of lately , umm oh yeah he seems to be a GATEKEEPER of knowledge on the matter and agrees with the commision report.

Now as to SNOWDEN , how do we not know he is much the same in ASSANGE, just look at how wikileaks tried to early on take SNOWDEN under his wing giving him lawyers advice and what not.

Also i agree GLENWALD has fulfilled his purpose greatly and will shrink back into his brazilian lifestyle and the establishment will pull back on giving him light in the media until the next disclosure which they will hit him up again or move on to another Reporter.

fake and faker agreed. SNOWDEN has definitely been a SNOWJOB.

This seems to be having a worldwide effect of drumming up even more hatred for our country , especially in the latin american countries and now with russia about to grant him asylum , this will most certainly put a more decisive wedge between america and putins government.

TIME WILL ONLY TELL.

HOWS DZOKHAR DOING ? OH YEAH, PLEADED NOT GUILTY......LOST THAT IN ALL THIS OTHER BS THAT MSM IS COVERING UP.

"He's this eccentric Ghandi-Like figure that you cant touch with the normal bribes that people respond to."
the man Doug Wead on DR. RON PAUL

it is a good question though...

why are the MSM outlets covering this with such fervor?

I use Blue Wave, but don't expect one of THEIR silly taglines.

MSM is still $$ driven

You will notice that the MSM ONLY covers the latest big "leak" for one day, and then crawl back into the darkness with their supermarket tabloid cohorts. They enjoy the fresh influx of readers and clicks for the sake of their advertising dollars--for one day--and return quickly to their "Edward Snowden leaker high-school dropout with the poll dancing girlfriend" tabloid coverage.

The MSM does NOT cover the issues revealed in the Snowden revelations.

For like 5 minutes, they even covered Dr. Paul--and then disappeared or reverted back to their "Ron Paul has racist newsletters" rhetoric.

If anything, the VT article serves as a misinformation psyop. Divide and conquer.

Because they have the least viewers and readers in their history

And this isn't some "scandal" you could just quietly sweep away under the rug. They have no choice, unless they'd rather look totally complicit with the NSA and Obama and Bush by keeping silent. They are trying hard to downplay it and not report it, but they have to. And their lies, brainwashing and propaganda isn't really working. The new poll that says the majority of US citizens believe Edward is a Whistleblower, not a traitor, and that Obama and NSA are wrong and acting way beyond what they should.

wolfe's picture

That is clear.

Because they can't hide it.

And the best way to manage something that can't be hidden is to control the dialog.

If you notice, most of the reports focus on things like:

"He's a high school drop out."
"He's a traitor."
"The government must be incompetent for hiring him."
etc...

This forces the debate to be about him, character assassinates him, and let's the government try to play stupid instead of evil --

Obama saying, "I knew nothing about X." As little as Obama "knows", he must be fricking Socrates. Feign strength when you have weakness, and weakness when you have strength. So they are evil, and would rather you believe they are stupid.

The Philosophy Of Liberty -
http://www.thephilosophyofliberty.com/

I'm a veteran and my concern

I'm a veteran and my concern isn't Snowden - his intent is irrelevant to me. My concern is the fact that the US government is spying on US citizens using general warrants approved by a secret court. A Constitutional Republic has NO NEED for secret courts.

______
"When the people fear their government, there is tyranny; when the government fears the people, there is liberty."

wolfe's picture

ROFLMAO

If anyone is secretly against the movement, it's the linked site, on so many levels.

And apparently, they don't even know how to count:

"
We will state 3 "facts"!

Fact 1 - Opinion
Fact 3 - Opinion

We're done folks! That tells you all you need to know!
"

The Philosophy Of Liberty -
http://www.thephilosophyofliberty.com/

It's just never-ending layers

It's just never-ending layers of paranoia with a lot of people. There is nothing that happens in the world anymore that they don't blame on conspiracy. Devastating storms? It must be man-made! A person leaks something? It must be fake and they must be an agent of some conspiracy! Shoes come untied and you trip? One of the Rothshilds must have untied your shows and you just couldn't see it because they are all-seeing and all-knowing and must have superpowers!

Please come join my forum if you're not a trendy and agree with my points of view.

What would a

"real" leaker look like? James Clapper revealed lying to Congress was part of an op? Statelessness is an arrangement for public consumption?