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Black Florida Woman Sentenced 20 Years for Firing Warning Shots

Apparently in FL justice isn't blind...

TAMPA, Fla. -- Marissa Alexander had never been arrested before she fired a bullet at a wall one day in 2010 to scare off her husband when she felt he was threatening her. Nobody got hurt, but this month a northeast Florida judge was bound by state law to sentence her to 20 years in prison.

Alexander, a 31-year-old mother of a toddler and 11-year-old twins, knew it was coming. She had claimed self-defense, tried to invoke Florida's "stand your ground" law and rejected plea deals that could have gotten her a much shorter sentence. A jury found her guilty as charged: aggravated assault with a deadly weapon. Because she fired a gun while committing a felony, Florida's mandatory-minimum gun law dictated the 20-year sentence

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/05/19/marissa-alexander-g...

And don't act surprised because even Ron Paul has talked about how blacks are unfairly targeted by police and prosecutors. There's obviously something not right here.

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People- please read the article in its entirety before commentin

This is not about race, or injustice or any of that.

This is about a crazy ex wife(girlfriend) that gamed the system against someone and ended up showing what a fraud she was.

1. She went to her "former" house - umm- I read that as not her current house.
2. The house appears to be the home of her "ex-whatever"
3. She went to get her clothes(umm- if they are not in YOUR house - you cant just go get them - that would be trespassing
4. She left said house, went to car, came back in house and fired some shots

Im not sure why she shouldn't go to jail. She files a restraining order against this guy out of "fear" - then goes to his house to get clothes?????? Then tries to shoot him.

Sounds like a crazy ass woman that was gaming the system against her baby daddy and got hit with a dose of karma.

When is a warning shot not a warning shot?

When someone has left the situation, goes and gets a gun, goes back into the house, and then starts shooting. Funny how all the obviously important aspects of this story are left out. And even funnier that people here jump on the bandwagon. You'd think that the people who hang out here would know to look at the whole story, and not just the medias version.

What am I missing? According to the article

"The state's "10-20-life" law was implemented in 1999 and credited with helping to lower the violent crime rate. Anyone who shows a gun in the commission of certain felonies gets an automatic 10 years in prison. Fire the gun, and it's an automatic 20 years. Shoot and wound someone, and it's 25 years to life."

It states that this woman fire the gun while committing a felony but I never saw what the felony was that she was in the process of committing. Also why the racial charges when the article also mentions another miscarriage when a white man named Orville Lee Wollard was railroaded by the same mandatory sentencing? I don't see the felony that he was supposedly involved in when he discharged his weapon either. Is firing a weapon itself a felony?

Mandatory sentencing laws are some of the most draconian laws there are and it is sickening how these judges and prosecutors hide behind those laws to release themselves from responsibility. Every case should be judged on its own circumstances and when we are blanketed with these laws and sentences it proves that our justice system is a farce.

From what I understand of this case

she fired the warning shot, but it went through her kids bedroom missing her kid.

The plaintiff

or accused...should call in Joe Biden as a witness, he told her to do it.

Her birthday is coming up

Sept 14th. There are rallies around the US. Many of these are actually led by women who were abused in the past. We have some coming to our concealed carry class tomorrow. Hopefully we can support them.

A lot of problems to talk about there

mandatory minumum sentences, stand your ground rules, etc., and of course racism is a possibility. Hopefully this gets overturned on appeal.

"Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I'm not sure about the the universe."-- Albert Einstein

Edit: Thought this was the

Edit: Thought this was the link to a different article of the same incident on Huffpo.

20 years is excessive, but it is the mandatory state minimum. The law needs to be changed.

Regardless if the person was

Regardless if the person was justified or not, the punishment doesnt fit the crime. People get lesser sentences for killing someone on purpose let alone just firing off a gun.

To climb the mountain, you must believe you can.

20 Years?

Plaxico Burress shot him self and only served 2. What world are we living in?

Ask Dick Cheney about the penalties of firing a gun.

Different classes have different rules. It's called selective enforcement and selective prosecution.

"A vote for the lesser of two evils is a vote to keep things the same", Buckminster Fuller..
A choice for liberty is always a choice for liberty.

Complete Bullshit

That's not even close to self defense(see below) she threatened someone with a gun because she didn't like what he was doing or the things he said. She wasn't being attacked. George Zimmerman's head was being pounded into the concrete, completely different. 20 years is freaking ridiculous though, mandatory minimums are a travesty of justice.

Corey says she believes Alexander aimed the gun at the man and his two sons

He said it was Alexander, 31, who first began punching him after he confronted her about some text messages she had sent to her ex-husband.

Gray said he put his hands up in defense "buying time" for his two sons to gather their belongings so he could take them and leave. But when he made the remark that their newborn baby must be fathered by her ex-husband, he said she immediately stopped.

"She said, 'I got something for your — —,' and walked away," Gray said. "I knew exactly what she was going to do."

Gray said she went to the garage, to her truck, to get her gun and then returned back inside the home. He said the garage door that she claimed was inoperable worked for him earlier that morning and later that day with no trouble.

"When she came back inside, the first thing I saw was her putting one [a bullet] in the chamber," he said.

Gray said by the time his kids had come to his side to leave, she had the gun pointed at him.

"As soon as I took my eyes off Marissa, that's when I heard the gunshot," Gray said.

He said he never looked back, grabbing the children and running out of the house and down the street.

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Only Zimmerman's own testimony

that his head was being hit against the pavement by Martin.

Lady fired a warning shot in self defense--assault with a deadly weapon. Shooting somebody after stalking and harassing him (conveniently silencing the only other witness)--self defense. Upside-down justice in Florida.

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Bull

There was an eye witness in the Zimmerman case. Geeze man, why comment on a story you obviously have not followed.

i dont know the story, i

i dont know the story, i dont know what happened, but 20 years for FIRING a gun, that did no harm is extreme bordering on unjust. Not to bellitle the threat of being shot,, but no actual victim in these cases does not deserve 20 god damn years of someones life, land of the free........BOLLOCKS

The misnamed "news" reporting

The misnamed "news" reporting on this particular story has been more emotionally charged crap.

Only after sufficient digging, something the average consumer of entertainm...uh, I mean "news", typically does not do, were certain facts evident. The story as presented makes the mother out to be innocent of any and all wrongdoing.

I disagree about how races are treated

differently...especially in a jury trial. I really believe jury personnel are serious and color-blind...USUALLY...here is an exception that will surprise you:

There was one black woman on the jury I just served on last month. SHE held up the deliberation of a case where the evidence to convict a black man of attempted murder was overwhelming. After much debate (she was the only hold out when we voted), she finally made each of us give verbal reasons for our decision - presumably to help her decide. Not so.

She held up the deliberation, as she finally admitted to us, because she was African-American and wanted to make sure we white people really thought about the charges and came to a conclusion based on the evidence and not the race of the defendant. She admitted the evidence was overwhelming and that she had already made up her mind hours ago.

No one in that jury room expressed any kind of racist behavior - in fact quite the opposite in their careful consideration of the evidence.

Needless to say, I was not at all amused by her behavior. Not only was it insulting to the other eleven juror's intelligence but she kept the plaintiff, et al, held captive, waiting for a verdict that should have been gotten in two hours instead of six hours.

I ask then, which of the 12 of us actually exhibited racism?

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Based on what evidence do you

Based on what evidence do you make the claim that 12 randomly selected people from the south are most likely to be 100% non-racist?

I agree that "reverse racism" (or whatever you want to call treating people different because you think they're racist) is a problem, probably an even bigger problem than actual racism. But I think you'd be surprised how dominant racism still is in some areas.

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tell me

What does them being from the south have to do with anything?

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The fact that racism is

The fact that racism is extremely prevalent in the south.

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That's a garbage stereotype

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zhl9MLno424

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No, it's a matter of

No, it's a matter of statistical fact.

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Oh really?

Than I'm sure you don't mind sharing those statistics with the class then.

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Maybe you can answer my

Maybe you can answer my question first. Or perhaps you'd like to continue with the straw man by yourself.

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mmmhmm

Thought so.

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How is this about race? It

How is this about race? It doesn't matter who or what you are use a gun in a crime in Florida and you will do time period.

Newburn says Alexander's case is not an isolated incident, and that people ensnared by mandatory-minimum laws cross racial barriers.

In central Florida, a white man named Orville Lee Wollard is nearly two years into a 20-year sentence for firing his gun inside his house to scare his daughter's boyfriend. Prosecutors contended that Wollard was shooting at the young man and missed.

He rejected a plea deal that offered probation but no prison time. Like Alexander, he took his chances at trial and was convicted of aggravated assault with a firearm. Circuit Judge Donald Jacobsen said he was "duty bound" by the 10-20-life law to impose the harsh sentence.

Mandatory Minimums

The courts in California have cracked down on excuses to avoid jury duty to the point that even my former boss, an attorney, had to serve on a jury.

Her case was a three strikes case with mandatory life sentence. She was betrayed by the judge who hid this from the jury. She sent a family man to jail for life over a relatively minor offense (no one was hurt), because of priors when he was much younger.

I had that in mind when I was called for jury duty and I heard the charges read: attempted murder and "being a felon in possession of a hand-gun." If I had gotten on the case, I would have had to think about these charges: "attempted murder" could easily be "self-defense," and then I have to think about whether we all have a right to arm ourselves for that purpose.

It sounded like the prosecution had so much evidence there was no point in having a trial, so I naturally wondered why they hadn't made a deal. 3-strikes was the obvious answer--the defendant had nothing to lose. They don't tell you it's a 3-strikes or mandatory minimum, I did the math.

It's a crazy system and totally unconstitutional: 3-strikes is ex post facto and double-jeopardy (making a prior action a crime after the fact, and re-punishing for it) as is trying children as adults.

I told the judge that I thought ignorance of the law was an excellent excuse these days; that laws make no sense, and that I knew someone who was betrayed by the judge hiding facts from her as a juror. I was thanked and excused.

I'm sorry, now. Juries are the front lines, and we need to be on them.

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she went to their "former home"

does that mean his house?
if it does not, i'm all in for her release.
if it was his house, i have a problem with her behavior.
she violated her own restraining order.

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why do you assume it was "his house"??

and Zimmerman was a saint?? was't he told by 911 to STOP following Travon yet continued and then shot and killed him?!

Following or ignoring 911

Following or ignoring 911 operator advice is not the same as following or ignoring a lawyers advice.