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The Zimmerman case: Untold truths

The Zimmerman case: Untold truths, who was responsible for Trayvon Martin's death? Analysis of the Zimmerman case. The truths ignored by the media.
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I'd have to say the kid was

I'd have to say the kid was up to no good. He walks a mile in the pouring rain for Skiddles and soft drink...which was unopened at the time. According to his posts various social media he was into the "lean" or "purple drank" and fighting. He was 30 seconds from his house. When Zimmerman walked out of the car it was to tell the police dispatch the street name...of which time he was on the phone with them...after the fact that TM had already left the scene when he turned the corner. This was all reported and accounted for. These are facts. Zimmerman told the dispatch TM turned down the street. The dispatch ask him where he was located. Zimmerman gets out to look at the street. The dispatch tells Zimmerman he does not need to follow him. The phone call is ended. Zimmermans story of what happened after can not be discredited and there is existing evidence that can correlate his story. The only injuries aside from TM's knuckles where of Zimmerman which proves he was on the ground getting his face beaten and head pounded into the ground. Eyewitnesses testified that TM was on top.

It's a fact that TM left the scene (and was only 30 seconds from his home) but came back to sucker punch Zimmerman in the face...and pound his head in the cement. At what point does someone have the right to defend themselves?

Show me any pictures of mud

If I was more computer literate I would Google the exact weather, for signs of pouring rain.

However is it an accident that everyone in the neighbor who who Zimmerman was harassing happened to be black.

Thanks for your thoughtful comment I disagree with. I gave it a "+". It has important information to add to our understanding.

I would like to suggest maybe abuse by a police wanted-to-be be put into the same box as police abuse, but maybe I am also twisting reality by doing so.

In Philly PA RichardKanePA

take the quiz...

http://www.dlas.org/questions-zimmerman-verdict/

Always remember:
"It does not require a majority to prevail, but rather an irate, tireless minority keen to set brush fires in people's minds." ~ Samuel Adams
If they hate us for our freedom, they must LOVE us now....

Stay IRATE, remain TIRELESS, an

We live a lot of delusions

I think George Bush II was the last public figure to try to publicly understand Al Qaeda and he came closer than the know-it-alls with high IQ's.

Dzhokhar Tsarnaev hated himself for loving soccer so much that he missed prayers or had a longing to do so. When he also felt like watching the Boston Marathon,instead of praying, he felt it was the time to get even with those he thoughtresponsible for him to at times wanting to do something ot her than pray. This especially since he was already guilty of murder and had nothing else to loose, and opposes what the US is doing in Afghanistan.

In Philly PA RichardKanePA

so in your world of political correctness...

If a really crappy neighborhood full of red headed Irish immigrants was known for bring a crime wave to an area, and you spot a no good looking red headed carrying a backpack wearing a hoodie, and you report it to the police because the guy doesn't just look like a red headed irish kid, he looks like one who might be up to something, then you get savagely attacked by the red headed irish kid and then you shoot him after your brains get battered on teh ground for awhile, that would make you bigotted against all red headed irish kids, subliminally, and that he is therefore a subliminal racist? Blabber blabber blabber

"Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I'm not sure about the the universe."-- Albert Einstein

yes, in my libertarian world of justice

yea because that red headed irish kid has a right to go back home to his dad's house without being followed by some armed black guy in his car, who then gets out of his car. and it was february and raining and the 21st century, hoodies are everywhere! this whole idea of "being up to something" i mean good grief! see something say something. spy on your fellow citizens. why are libertarians defending this 1984 type thought!?! walking while wearing a hoodie is not suspicious!

I think you are a bit confused on the argument...

The "see something say something" is designed to work as it did in Nazi Germany, this was set up specifically to turn in your neighbor, not some stranger peering into windows on a dark, rainy night in a high crime area. But so long as it ties into your narrative I do not blame you for attempting to use it here. Your programming against guns is clear, and I would dare guess you have never been on a large game hunt with a high powered rifle? Been to the range and sighted in your favorite pistol? I wonder if you would even have the wherewithal to even drop a "Bambi" in order to feed your starving family. Liberal schooling, with no firearms knowledge, can certainly make those black rifles seem scary, but your narrative is wrong and based on emotion and not knowledge of such.

Always remember:
"It does not require a majority to prevail, but rather an irate, tireless minority keen to set brush fires in people's minds." ~ Samuel Adams
If they hate us for our freedom, they must LOVE us now....

Stay IRATE, remain TIRELESS, an

your thinking is flawed

Just because, in the aftermath, 20-20 hindvision, the absolute safest thing for him to do would have been to run in the opposite direction, that doesn't either legitimize the attack by Trayvon Martin, or negate a self-defense argument on his part. The fact that it was raining and hoodies are everywhere are just parts o of the whole picture, he looked suspicious enough that Zimmerman did call the "real" police (deputized by Barney Fife no doubt) just like you would prefer. He is allowed to use his judgment and say a guy looks suspicious, and the more you read about Trayvon, the more suspicious he looks, and not at all because of his color, either.

"Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I'm not sure about the the universe."-- Albert Einstein

what was he doing that made

what was he doing that made him look suspicious? he wasn't wearing the right clothes? talking on his cell phone?

He was a stranger in a high crime area...

He avoided Zimmerman instead of walking right past him as if he were not there, and then he fled when Zimmerman got out of his car. The simple act of fleeing should Zimmerman had been an officer of the law, would have given a cop probable cause not only to follow, but to call backup to apprehend under suspicion.

Just out of curiosity GUS, what is your opinion of the assault weapons ban?

Always remember:
"It does not require a majority to prevail, but rather an irate, tireless minority keen to set brush fires in people's minds." ~ Samuel Adams
If they hate us for our freedom, they must LOVE us now....

Stay IRATE, remain TIRELESS, an

Zimmerman refused to indetify himself

Zimmerman refused to identify himself either because he wanted Martin to squirm ie terrorize Martin, or else he didn't want Trayvon to tell his father and is father tell town-watch which was already getting uncomfortable with Zimmerman

In Philly PA RichardKanePA

nice fantasy

but how do you know if anything like this ever happened?

"Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I'm not sure about the the universe."-- Albert Einstein

What was Zimmerman doing?

What was Zimmerman doing to justify Trayvon's attack on him?

"Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I'm not sure about the the universe."-- Albert Einstein

It was reported that he was

It was reported that he was ducking around houses. No matter...GZ had every right to report him for what ever the reason was. He felt it was suspicious so he called the authorities. TM was the aggressor in this situation.

Did you know that Skiddles

Did you know that Skiddles candies and Arizona Watermelon Fruit Juice Cocktail is commonly used for a dangerous concoction known as LEAN or Purple Drank among street thugs. There was evidence all over TM's twitter and Facebook of him using this "drug". This evidence was withheld by the DA. They also withheld photos of TM holding a screwdriver and a bunch of women's jewelry. And some of his other tweets talk about him being quite the aggressor...starting and winning fights. TM was a wanna be gangsta or thug.

i. don't. care. first of all,

i. don't. care. first of all, the picking a part of someone's internet posts and just the overall vilification of Trayvon is sickening. it's all speculative, and contradicts all of the reports from his teachers and classmates. kids are kids and boys are boys, and i know i say a lot of shit on the internet that could be used against me to make me look like a rage-filled violent drug abuser, when i'm not. but REGARDLESS, it doesn't change the fact that Zimmerman (the grown man with the gun and some one in leadership position and the one who actually has been arrested for assault before) was directed to stay in his car and disobeyed that order! oh and side note, there was no blood on trayvon's hand. and even though trayvon was on top beating the shit out of good ole george, georgey was able to retrieve his gun from behind him and shoot him directly in the chest.

http://www.dlas.org/questions-zimmerman-verdict/

how did you score?

Always remember:
"It does not require a majority to prevail, but rather an irate, tireless minority keen to set brush fires in people's minds." ~ Samuel Adams
If they hate us for our freedom, they must LOVE us now....

Stay IRATE, remain TIRELESS, an

Vilifiation?

Fact, Martin was on his third suspension from school, which is why he was in Sanford. I commend his mother for realizing her son needed the strong influence of his father. It was just a little too much, too late.

Fact, a 17 year old had liver damage, this according to the autopsy report. Liver damage doesn't happen overnight. Martin was into drug concoctions that damage internal organs if, say, he was consuming a bottle of cough medicine a day over a 7-8 month period. He was probably consuming more than that to damage a liver in a young man of 17.

Fact, Zimmerman was never ordered to stay in his car. I don't know where you're getting that from, but it's false information and you should stop spreading disinformation. Spreading disinformation makes you no better than the racebaiters and MSM that thought nothing of doctoring a dispatch tape to portray Zimmerman as a racist to fit the agenda, which is despicable.

Fact, I know you're not a gun owner and have never handled a gun. You shouldn't talk about things you know nothing about, it makes you look stupid.

you don't care?

You don't care that he he pictures of women's jewelry along with a screwdriver, in the context of this case? You and everyone else knows the only reason that photo was not admitted at trial was that anyone with a logical brain would conclude taht the kid had it coming.

If he had been killed while carjacking and there was a picture of him cruising town in a new benz that he didn't own, while smoking a blunt with his buddies, that picture wouldn't be admitted either as it is not probative of the exact crime but it sure would be prejudicial if a trier of fact saw it.

It was kept out because ANYONE would care if they saw that. If you don't then your opinion is just that more suspect.

"Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I'm not sure about the the universe."-- Albert Einstein

Your talking points are

Your talking points are coined by the msm.

yours are from sean hannity

yours are from sean hannity and all the neo-cons!

Funny I don't watch them.

Funny I don't watch them.

well i havent watched the msm

well i havent watched the msm either

yes but you

you do read your moveon.org emails religiously.

"Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I'm not sure about the the universe."-- Albert Einstein

you guys are all very

you guys are all very juvenile. sorry i think people should be able to walk home safely at night and not be followed by car and foot by an unknown man with a gun.

FYI...Zimmermans gun was

FYI...Zimmermans gun was properly hoisted until the moment he was on the ground with TM on top of him.

no free pass

for hoodlums who beat up security guards. Sorry. It doesn't work that way. Juvenile or not.

"Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I'm not sure about the the universe."-- Albert Einstein

did he identify himself as a

did he identify himself as a "Security guard"? was he wearing a badge? as far as trayvon was concerned, he was a creepy dude following him. TM was standing his ground.

Only after he had already

Only after he had already left the scene...came back...and sucker punched GZ and beat his head in the cement...over and over again while GZ was screaming for help.

Please. Just stop.

GUS818's a partisan democrat

and not a libertarian. The democratic party downloaded into his brain the talking points and when he gets done with his nightly maddow worship he regurgitates them online. He's sort of like one of those bugs that gets its brain infiltrated by a virus that takes over all of its motor controls. He can't help it!

Seriously, this guy thinks the world is left vs. right, there is no third option. That is why he says everyone is a Hannity stooge. He's a jokester.

"Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I'm not sure about the the universe."-- Albert Einstein