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Wanna be coward cop kills kid

So the MSM has won and have made this a polarizing discussion. Early on I was amazed this was arising to a national debate. Jesus, Zimmeran is not even white, can you leave us white people out of this, this time around.

I knew from the start that Zimmerman would get off but had this gut check that it was all wrong. Here we have some wanna be cop with a conceal and carry that cannot hold his own to a 17 year old kid. Zimmerman had no purpose serving as he did as his neighborhood watch commander or whatever position her severed.

Justified after the verdict he may be, Zimmerman is the same cop that is shooting dogs, as we see so often. They are cowards, never had a serious altercation in their life and have no mind to deal with such. He had no place being where he was and when some 17 year old kid who was much tougher than him, who probably felt threatened got the best of him got shot.

I am 48 years old and have been in my share of fights. I don't look for them and try to stay clear at all cost. I have won most but have my scars so I look at Zimmerman as some pussy wanna be who got his ass kicked. My god, screaming "help me" makes you a pussy in my book. I want him to serve time for just being such a coward and screaming for help after he put himself in that position.

It has been my belief that law enforcement agencies have always hired totally naive people like him or the other extreme of hyper reactive aggressive assholes. All in all, wanna be cop Zimmerman put himself into the situation and got his coward ass handed to him and killed someone. Should he had been acquitted? Yes.



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Evidenced

And therein lies the problem.

Because of Zimmerman's efforts to catch a crook he excelled beyond the state sanctioned officials response team, otherwise known as the police, and showed how an individual of his stature could help thwart an immediate threat to the community(not talking about Trayvon obviously) without the approval of the state. Part and parcel of the idea of liberty, is it not, in other words we don't need the state?

As well, overzealous activity does not constitute illegal behaviour. And Zimmerman was not involved in anything illegal that would qualify him to be beat to the ground as such, let alone being overzealous, so why all the negative connotaions when faced with this dilemma?

Race, plain and simple. The media pushed it as such and it flew in the face of Amerika as such. Race-baiting, more properly, because a black youth was killed this is what needed to be promoted to help along whatever agenda politicians wanted thrown out into the public's eye.

Even Obama took the bait with his quote "If I had a son, he'd look like Trayvon" and promoted an agenda favorable to his position and inflammatory for everyone else who said otherwise.

Perhaps Martin showed the

Perhaps Martin showed the same, by defending himself from a stalker.

See, even if Zimmerman is innocent, Martin's death is a tragedy. He is the victim. Obama's comments are appropriate; Martin deserves to be mourned. Zimmerman perhaps also deserves to be set free (from a legal standpoint).

What if Zimmerman pulled a gun on Trayvon? We already know that he lied about Trayvon going for the gun. What if Zimmerman actually followed Martin, or what if Zimmerman verbally instigated the fight? His record certainly paints the picture of a wannabee cop. There is no conclusive proof to the contrary.

People on "your" side are going from saying Zimmerman is innocent, to Martin is guilty. That he deserved to be shot.

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Incorrect

I never made the statement that Trayvon should be shot. And if you feel that's my point, that people should be shot for their actions, such as Trayvon's, then we are done here.

You are not the only person

You are not the only person who refers to GZ as a "pussy." I am getting a little tired of that sexist phrase. The gun is the equalizer. We aren't all naturally as butch as you BUT we still have a right to defend ourselves. We can't all have biceps as powerful as yours, macho man. I was assaulted by another man when I was younger,just for being gay, so I know how GZ must have felt. A fist CAN kill! Head slamming to concrete can kill. The docs who treated my fractured zygomatic arch said he could have easily killed me had the angle of the hit just been slightly different.

I am not macho

and if you met me I am the most calm reasoned person you would meet. I would be the first person to defend you or someone who was in need. I am just saying if you put yourself into a position of authority you have to have the mindset to back it up in a calm reasonable manner.

Continuing this narrative....

only plays into the distraction of Americans from topics that truly are of epic consequence to our well-being and fundamental freedoms.

To support further discussion of a page 10 issue is not only idiotic, it is dangerous!

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Great post

It's about time someone made sense here! George Zimmerman was and IS a total pussy who got his ass kicked. If you can't fight, don't look for one. Now the message is, "Look for a fight, and if you start to get your ass kicked then SHOOT!"

WTF kind of sense does that make???

Banned...with a vengeance.

Thankfully I can make cretinous comments like the above disappear like magic.

And you are a total sexist

And you are a total sexist homophobic jerk. "Pussy"? What a disgusting word to call another man. Really shows your misogyny.

Having had an Australian friend

I would have called him a cunt as many Aussie throw out willingly but is so taboo in our culture.

definition

I used the word, kidding around one day, in a comment. Got me in trouble and I had to try to apologize. (not everyone forgave me) Being a person with a disability, now, I would not be much of a fighter.(I was a pretty good high school wrestler!) I talked myself out of several (all) fights. I guess guys would consider that behavior cowardly and like "pussy"'s second definition, found in the dictionary. Call the guy effeminate that he was "screaming like a little girl"! It means the same derogatory thing. But, sexist?

If help would have come, maybe the shooting could have been prevented. The neighbor wanted a watch. (?) Yet when called upon to help, stayed in the safety of their houses. It was, possibly, appropriate not to help. But, George Zimmerman had no choice, since no one else would prevent the youth from carrying out his threat, when he started the fight. It sounded like Mr Zimmerman had no chance to explain why he was a "creepy $@#*&* cracker" following him. We can never know.

In conclusion, if there was some creepy guy(of any race) following me, I would have double timed it HOME and called the cops! Anonymously, of course!!

OK

pussy

Okeh, abscess...

...pustule, infection, intemperate discourteous child, I voted you down, but not anonymously.

Why would you attempt to denigrate a perfectly inviting orifice by comparing it (even spuriously) to craven behavior?

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oh bleh..

Female here. I'm not sure when pussy became the word for an "orifice" but I occasionally use it to describe someone who is a whiny-assed crybaby in the same way I will use dick for someone who is being a jerk... I don't think in terms of male or female but just how a person is acting.

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"not sure when"

Around the sixth or seventh grade, if I remember aright. Of course, one could make a stronger case that "pussy" is simply a derivation of pusilanimous. As for why a "dick" might be an unpleasant person, that one eludes me. Again, the comparison of idioms for body parts to undesirable human characteristics regularly leaves me wondering.

"Bleh" on, gospozha!

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I meant

when it did become known time wise not age-wise..

"It has been informally suggested in folk etymology that it is a shortened form of the word "pusillanimous", which comes from Latin words meaning "tiny spirit" and is defined by the Oxford English Dictionary as "showing a lack of courage or determination" or cowardly."

As for using dick to mean a jerk.. not sure where that came from ;)

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inviting?

I like your definition! Definitely can be inviting!

what surprises me

is that no one has suggested that martin had a choice, he could have walked away. why denigrate zimmerman because he felt a responsibility for his neighborhood?

ducky

If a predator is stalking you...

You'd better fight.

Trayvon was the stalker...

...who wanted to kick some "cracker" ass.

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!WOW!

My first time seeing this picture. If this is true, and you see a kid in a hoodie canvassing the neighborhood like this in a known recently victimized/burglurized community, who wouldn't be suspicious?
My ass would be on him like butter on a roll!

Who walks up and down between the houses rather than the road? Also, if I believe someone is stalking me I am absolutely going to be under the lights IN the PUBLIC street.

My only question to "seal the deal" would be, "Where is this kids father's house"?

If its not VERY near this diagram, I have a serious problem with this kid's location.

Look at GZ's path. He's looking for the guy ON the streets, where you would expect someone to be, for goodness sakes. When he doesn't see the guy on the street he doubles back and gets jumped. Why all the hoopla over this?

Is this picture becoming clearer? Am I missing something?

Do we have a effed potus, or what?

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Way to twist words Alinskyite

"Predator" "Stalking"...neither apply. Read quote below!

Really?!

Must we forget that "stalking" has become a legal condition, only recently? Hunters, including predators, have stalked their prey since time began. But, you seem to want to miss the point that it was not the usual "stalking" in the news, today! Seems like a big mistake.

Stalking LOL

Right, because Zimmerman was "stalking" him. Here's the definition of stalking.
Stalking is a distinctive form of criminal activity composed of a series of actions that taken individually might constitute legal behavior. For example, sending flowers, writing love notes, and waiting for someone outside her place of work are actions that, on their own, are not criminal. When these actions are coupled with an intent to instill fear or injury, however, they may constitute a pattern of behavior that is illegal. Though anti-stalking laws are gender neutral, most stalkers are men and most victims are women.

Learn the proper usage of a word so that you don't look like an idiot. Following someone who looks like they are up to no good is not stalking.
All what's his name had to do was leave the area. He actually lost Zimmerman, when he got back to his car, that's where What's his name sucker punched him and the rest is history.

Looky here!

Must we forget that stalking has become a legal condition, only recently? Hunters, including predators, have stalked their prey since time began. But, you seem to want to miss the point that it was not the usual "stalking" in the news, today! Seems like a big mistake.

That cannot hold his own to a 17 year old kid.

I see and understand some of your points, however saying that 17 year olds are a pushover in a fight, I can't agree with. The military wants kids at 18, don't think they are interested in the 48 year old demographic. When I was 17 I was bench pressing 250, running hurtles and in karate. I have had my nose broke in a fight, a hard square on bare knuckle punch and most anyone will drop like a bag of potatoes. At the right angle and force, as in a palm heal strike, it can be fatal. You are right though, he did get has ass handed to him. He should have just stayed in his car and not played cop.

Should he had been acquitted? Yes.

I agree. I also agree with your assessment of his wannabe status and the fact that he was a wimp on a power trip. I also believe that wimpy little twerps who can't even physically defend themselves shouldn't assume a position of protecting others. That is why I don't agree with woman being cops.

But for those who don't think GZ should have been acquitted just ask yourself how this would play on peoples minds if GZ where a woman and TM was slamming her head in the pavement?

The one fact that gets GZ acquitted is that no matter who started the fight, once GZ hit the ground then TM is no longer defending himself by continuing to beat him. At that point GZ becomes the defendant and has a right to that defense no matter how much of a simple minded weakling he is.

Wow... Where to start with this huge pile of idiocy.

Slamhead

Have you ever been in a fight? Do you know what it's like to be hit in the nose and have it break? I fought a LOT in my younger days. Being one of only a hand full of white kids in a black dominated school. It was either fight or be bullied. This was late 80's early 90's. The pinnacle of gangster rap, east coast west coast crap feud. I do not care what you or peggy say regarding blacks and black culture. I know it, I grew up in it. I know EXACTLY what what's his name was doing in the neighborhood that night. His history (although excluded from the court by a Chris Farley looking judge) shows he was a thug. His 3 previous suspensions, his drug use, as well as his favorite drink (lean, or purple drink) his own autopsy showed his liver had the beginning stages of degrading because of his behavior and drug use.

But back to the original comment. I have had my nose broken, a single hit to the face in the right area will break your nose immediately. At that point, you can't see your eyes water up like nothing else and your choking on your own blood if your head goes back. So you expect Zimmerman to hold his own after being sucker punched by some wanna be thug? Eye's watering can't see because everything is blurry, and can't breath without swallowing his own blood. How about someone sucker punches you in the face when you least expect it. I can guarantee you'll go down quicker than a Thai whore if you have your nose broken with a single punch. At that point you're an easy target for the "ground and pound" move that what's his name was doing to Zimmerman.

But go ahead, think a punch to the face is like in the movies and that Zimmerman should of been able to hold his own. That tells me right there you've never been in a fight, had your nose broken or fought back while trying not to choke on your own blood flowing back into your throat.

You're nothing more than an armchair coward. I would of done the exact same thing that Zimmerman did in the same situation. Racist? Nope it's either me or him at that point. Especially when there was eye witness testimony that what's his name said that Zimmerman was going to die that night. That's why the police didn't arrest him until after the race baiters and and race hustlers such as yourself donned a hoodie and went after Zimmerman. That's why the jury acquitted him. Either way Zimmerman still has to live as a marked man. I would of taken my chances free than behind bars, because had he been found guilty he would of died in prison.

Which apparently would of been ok with you and Peggy.. For some reason disillusion reality is part of your foundation for your so called opinions... Emotional opinions are ok, but don't base your life or the life of another on them. If you have your nose broken, can't see, can't breath and being told that you're going to die tonight. Let me know what decision you make if you have the means to stop the confrontation.

To me it shows amazing control that what's his name wasn't shot multiple times. I'm not sure I wouldn't of put 2-3 shells in that worthless SOB. He had 1 shot, and this was after almost a full minute of taking a beating. And only after what's his name went after the weapon after he saw it.

First off I did not say anyting about racism

as that is the MSM narrative. If you had read my post I have been in my share of fights. And yes as early as 2009 I had my nose broken for the second time. It was serendipitous as the first guy was a lefty and this guy straightened it. I was hanging out with the wrong woman and some guy showed up in her bedroom at 2am. He cold cocked me and I saw stars but I know every fight is not just one punch. I took him down and fish hooked his cheek to the floor. This is where calm an reasoning comes in. I am bleeding from my nose and my brow onto his face, I have him dead to right to give him the beating of his life and I showed mercy. Mind you I am only 5'7" and this guy had 6 inches and 50 lbs on me. He left crying and apologizing.

I put two people in the hospital in my life. One instigated by a loud mouth friend whom I have no respect for anymore because of that(he rand and left me to deal with it) and another who was looking for a fight and cornered me in a bathroom at a local pub. Funny thing is he called the cops after he lost and on contact with the sheriff and my side of the story they laughed.

I am not proud of it and do not say this to seem tough or macho but when people choose to be combative or confrontational the outcome is uncertain. I got lucky most the time but I have scars and have had stitches at times. Fighting is dangerous and the outcome is uncertain and can lead to serious consequences.

I was a good wrestler and perhaps that aided me as in situations like that as things for me slow down. No emotions, get the job done. As for growing up the way you did, I grew up in Hawaii and me and my brothers were the only white kids that would show up on beat up Haole day..enough said.

My point being Zimmerman up until then was living some fantasy about violence. He had his gun, he was the man, but he wasn't the man with the right mind set who should have been there.

Obviously you've never been

Obviously you've never been in the losing end of a fight with a person who means to kill you and has no other goal. It wasn't just some mutual scuffle like old duels used to be. Who cares the age of the person he was fighting? He was neighborhood watch. Since when is that a position that requires a person to be trained in combat? You sound like the common idiot who ignores our founding principles, in that safety is society's responsibility, and that people are their own police.

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