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Snowden Probably Knows About 911

MOSCOW - Russia - What is that devastating piece of information that Snowden says he knows that could be so painful for the American government?

Most certainly Vladimir Putin knows about that special piece of information that could be rather embarrassing to the U.S. government if it was divulged to the public, this is why Mr Putin has told Snowden he will give him asylum only if he keeps his mouth shut from divulging further leaks. It would probably not be in Russia's best interest if things were to go awry across the pond.

You don't have to be a brainbox or security analyst to know what would damage the U.S. more than anything else in the world.

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"I always like to say, if you want to find out who did something, you have to look at who benefited from an action. Hmmm, now let's see. Who benefited from 911? Cui bono? The Arabs and Muslims certainly did not benefit, and they were the ones who supposedly committed those atrocities. You see, there it is. Now, let's go further with this. What would the American people do if they found out who really engineered 911? Personally, I don't know what the American people would do. All I can say is, some people know and some just choose to carry on still knowing but feel they have too much to lose if they tried to do anything about it. Therefore, they secretly in their hearts accept it," Dan Innocentu, a man who witnessed the twin towers demolition in 2001 told a radio program today.

Let's hope that Snowden does not reveal any more information.

http://www.dailysquib.co.uk/world/4167-snowden-probably-know...

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doesn't know who was behind 9/11?
https://wikispooks.com/wiki/9/11:Israel_did_it

"If this mischievous financial policy [greenbacks], which has its origin in North America, should become endurated down to a fixture, then that government will furnish its own money without cost. It will pay off its debts and be without debts. It will hav

Snowden is a Russian check on the US advancing its agenda

in Syria.

Make no mistake about it. Putin probably has the goods by now and the US knows any action on making Syria really hot with US/Isreali involvement is basically going to be a green light for Russia to "leak" the Snowden intelligence into the world news. Any outcome from this would probably shake the US military/industrial complex to it's core enough to stymie any US plans to actively take Syria out.

Think geopolitical, this is Russia's play. I could also be entirely wrong.

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There is so much double, triple irony here

So, apparently the DailySquib site sited in the post is a satirical site. I was fooled and annoyed that people were promoting this...and I'm one of the ones who post satire here from time to time!

Still, lots of people here seem to think this is a real development to the story and not a way to actually discredit all of the real work Snowden has done...

Ah, well. #RonPaulProblems

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What's even more ironic is people link to news sources

Like CNN and FOX and that's seen as current events to a story. I'm more incline to believe the satirical sites since its a way of the writers getting their message across without being hit by the editors. They can hide behind the auspice of satire and humor to shield them. But make no mistake about their real beliefs.

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na, it's not a matter of a "new development."

In this case, even if the blurb were from the Onion, it's not out of the realm of possibility.

There is ONLY ONE issue that can "damage" the myth surrounding the corporatist hijacked US Govt more than any other issue: the truth about 9/11.

Really, can't think of anything more damaging, when Abu Ghraib is already outed, GitMo is already outed, waterboarding/torture/renditions are already outed, the Collateral Murder video is already outed, the bankster fraud/bailouts are already outed, IRS corruption is already outed, Benghazigate is already outed, and now the NSA spying is outed courtesy of Bamford, Klein, Binney, Drake and Snowden.

Frankly ALL of it is public, if anyone bothers to research them.

But while there are still plenty of public info, now that Snowden has attained a level of some credibility, even among the sheeple, there is only ONE reality exposure that will utterly destroy what little 'legitimacy' the current batch of govt terrorists currently have. And, that, if one had to guess, is hard evidence, govt logs on 9/11.

That's why the only irony here is that often satire sites are the only ones that coincides telling the truth, often by conscious intent, subversion, or even by unintended accident.

The real "triple irony" is, the joke's on those libertarians (not you RadioFriendly, seeing as I don't know what your personal views are on 9/11truth) who doubt everything about govt, yet still laughably believe in the official fairytale govt conspiracy that 19 hijackers with boxcutters with Marfan Syndrome-ed dialysis-machine-bound OBL would, in the age of panopticon NSA spying (ubiquitous via ECHELON long before any Snowden's revelation), be able direct a coordinated attack from caves of Afghanistan knowing internal codes for NORAD to stand down on the morning of 9/11 knowingly coinciding the attack with multiple planned drills that 'coninkydink' just happens to 'resemble' EXACTLY what went on that fateful morning, without ANYONE in govt knowing his whereabouts??

Rightie-o! Sign me up for that Hollywood fiction screenwriters' class!

Just remember, while govt sucks at EVERYTHING constructive or positive, anything that requires destroying or killing, it's exceedingly great at.

But any student of history can easily tell you that ALL govt are, and have always been, efficient at just that: systematic, mechanized killing of masses of people, and destruction of private property.

Evil always destroys easily, but cannot create.

Personally, it's always been a hilarious point of contention that so many self-professed libertarians have long been averse to the notion that FACTIONS within govt always excel at carrying out conspiracies, when the reality of human history is, one long series of false flags and conspiracies committed by power-factions.

Yet, somehow in the TV-nation of 21st century, the human genetic knowledge and native historical position to suspect power structure is somehow now seen as something "odd," "kooky," "fringe," and furthremore ridiculed as "conspiracy theorists." Which as a term, frankly only entered the human lexicon, post-JFK assassination.

One may ask, why was being ridiculed as a "conspiracy theorist" entered the human vernacular so late, like 1960's? Because it was NEVER 'weird' to suspect conspiracies, throughout human history, it HAD to be socially engineered to propagandize it to make such natural suspicion of power-factions plotting behind the scenes, as something odd.

Just something to be cognizant of.

Predictions in due Time...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zGDisyWkIBM

"Let it not be said that no one cared, that no one objected once it's realized that our liberties and wealth are in jeopardy." - Dr. Ronald Ernest Paul

Yup: If I too had to guess/informed-extrapolate,

I'd submit that most likely, Snowden's 'insurance' package is probably, just that: pertinent 9/11 logs.

That said, Sibel Edmonds already revealed the facts of the US National Sekurity State apparatus communiqué directing OBL/Al-CIA-da up to, on, and after 9/11:

Sibel Edmonds, one of the Bravest Women alive, releases her Memoir without FBI's approval!

Sibel Edmonds on Lew Rockwell Show, Apr. 30, 2013: Boston Bombing, CIA & the US Empire + Wayne Madsen

Sibel Edmonds' Assessment on Boston Bombing & Col. Morris Davis on GitMo Tortures - Abby Martin Apr. 22, 2013

Sibel Edmonds, FBI Whistleblower: "9/11 Was Not Blowback"

Granted, none of what Snowden revealed come as 'news' to any of us who have already long known and researched these topics with already publicly available info, aside from the fact that Snowden gave us concrete 100% proof and updated names for PROMIS, Total Info Awareness, etc.

That said, regardless: NONE of it diminishes efforts of Snowden, Drake, Binney, etc. who are putting names, dates, and logs to what the research community have already known, for public consumption; it just became a gazillion times easier and laid foundation of further credibility, to build a critical mass of awakened citizenry who can then actively, consciously resist the mass propagandists' efforts, to NOT comply with the illegitimate corporatist govt (yes, double redundant for all y'all AnCap smarty pantsies, but you get the gist).

They ARE important "whistleblowers," NOT disparagingly smeared "leakers," regardless of ASSociated Press' recent propaganda would have the zombified sheeple delude: AP Editor: Do Not Describe Edward Snowden As A 'Whistleblower'

You'd think AP would've 'learned their lessons' by now, especially after it's been revealed that oBUSHma's been specifically spying on them, aside from the broad NSA spying revelations.

It's like how many "Thank you, Sir! May I have another!"-bendovers can these Stockholm Syndromed acquiescent tyrant-apologists take, before they wake up and decide what side of history they want to be on?

http://youtu.be/qdFLPn30dvQ

Still bewildering, just how far these acquiescent sociopathic nerds will got to please their high school lunch money thieving bullies...

Predictions in due Time...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zGDisyWkIBM

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Maybe we should find a way to prod GG

about that question. That would be the MOST explosive revelation, if it's in his possession. Imagine the backlash...from citizens, military and the families of those lost in the war that ensued after 9/11. Can you imagine?

Snowden is screwed!

Going to Russia was the worst idea ever. I'm sure at this point he is completely under Putin's control and will never be a free man again. They have already grabbed all the intel he had and will likely never let him leave.

Just making it look like he wants asylum there now.

Instead of any of it going public it now just goes straight to Russia to be used against the US.

Snowden should have gotten to Iceland or where ever and gotten asylum before he came out with any of it.

Huge opportunity squandered.

Hang on a sec

I've thought about the idea of Snowden in Russia too. My initial thought was it was pretty much a certainty that Russia would "shake him down" for as much intel as they can get. But it occurred to me that it's possible he's got info on Russia that he's holding back that will be released if he's harmed for not disclosing info to them.

actually, observing broad geopolitical movements,

I'd have to say that Putin forced US' hand; if Snowden were wholly geopolitically-informed, he too probably knew this, going there from Hong Kong.

That's why they're playing up "temporary asylum" status, and Putin is 'assuring' US govt that Snowden was given such status 'only under the condition' that he not leak any damaging intel on US. Now why would he do that, when having Snowden tell-all would benefit him and Russia? Not only that, furthermore, why would Putin publicly play it up, unless he WANTED America to know that "I know that you know that I know more than I'm publicly letting on."

Which has been the point he was always making anyway; it's basically your usual all BS state-craft political posturing.

Frankly, among current batch of world 'leaders' tyrants, there's no one presently alive, who plays the geopolitical game more astutely than Putin. This is not an admiration nor condoning of him or his actions; it's just a cold hard objective geopolitical observation: he's the best at state-craft, right now.

Besides, Iceland already rejected Snowden's asylum request: http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/world/iceland-rejects-sn...

Plus, according to WikiLeaks ally and Anti-Bankster heroine Iceland MP Birgitta Jónsdóttir's best efforts, from what I understand, the political climate is decidedly different than post-2008 anti-bankster rage; may not be that amenable to Snowden's plight, as expected: http://joyb.blogspot.com/2013/07/snowden-will-not-get-citize...

Also, as a NATO member, Iceland's hands are technically tied, via treaties.

Plus, realistically there are only TWO nations who can outright deny ANY US govt incursions, from Snowden's perspective, to become his state-cover/protectors: China & Russia.

No other nations have economic nor military geopolitical card to play against US govt, in the finality.

So, it was always going to be China or Russia, while perhaps eventually 'settling' in one of the Latin American nations, when things quiet down, if ever.

Hey, don't EVERYONE go to a Latin American nation to escape, evade, hide out, or seek refuge?? It's always been historically hilarious to me that somehow, it became that way; it seems it's always been that way. lol.

Putin, the former KGB tyrant, is a crafty ol' bugger who plays chess for fun, while the Anglo-American establishment political class and their ne'er do wells, now, barely play checkers: http://www.dailypaul.com/288624/putins-snarkedy-snark-snark-...

Geopolitically, the days of even competent, evil, Amerikan Realpolitik players are long-gone, fading or dead: neoCons are like the bratty bumbling retard (no offense to those who were unfortunate to be born physically, genetically, neurologically impaired who deserve any sentient compassionate human's full empathy) degenerate progeny of their 1st generation of 'grassroots'-selfmade-evil geopolitical designer daddies.

Frankly, as tyrannical as Putin is, since the days of the "American Moral Highground" is long gone after Abu Ghraib, the only large, geopolitical resistance to the Anglo-American Hegemonic class, aka. the NWO, is Putin: 'we' simply are not the undisputed 'good guys' on the world stage anymore. We the Americans, as individuals maybe, but not too many outside America sees us, through the same mythical Post-WWII lens of good-"Brand America," anymore.

However hyper-propagandized, the fact of the matter is, perception is everything: even the fictitious pro-'America the Great' film and music ambassadorship have long perpetuated great image of America throughout the globe, post-WWII, for a long ass time; in return regardless of even the Vietnam atrocities, the world as a whole, nevertheless maintained a lot of good will toward America, still emerging out of the enormously great reputation acquired post-WWII.

But now, you'd be hard pressed to find any foreign nation that sees us in the same favorable light anymore; how insane is it that it only took 2 GWB terms and 1.5 oBUSHma's terms to utterly destroy that great image, forever?

Seems too easy doesn't it?

Predictions in due Time...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zGDisyWkIBM

"Let it not be said that no one cared, that no one objected once it's realized that our liberties and wealth are in jeopardy." - Dr. Ronald Ernest Paul

if i had access to the worlds entirety of conversations...

this first thing I would do is figure out what the various "figure heads" were doing on 9/11

I would not be surprised if snowden has damning concrete proof of an inside job.

Tools of war are not always obvious. The worst weapon is an idea planted in the mind of man. Prejudices can kill, suspicion can destroy, and a thoughtless, frightened search for a scapegoat has an everlasting fallout all of its own.

So what is he waiting for?

What is the advantage of delaying dissemination of whatever information remains? What purpose is served with pronouncements about the scariness of upcoming "leaks", like some kind of ratings-driven TV? When surely the more time that passes the more wagons can be circled, damage control organised, etc. etc.

Snowden has already handed

Snowden has already handed over the information that is going to be disseminated to Glenn Greenwald and the Guardian newspaper. Glenn Greenwald has stated over and over and over and over again that more releases are coming, but that review of such voluminous information takes a lot of analysis, consideration and understanding before responsibly reporting on and articulating in any decent manner.

I probly know about 9/11 too...

but Im waiting for little green men to impregnate conspiracy theorists butt babies. True story... I heard it on the internet.

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Why don't a few rogue Navy SEALs rescue Snowden

and get him out of that airport so he can tell what he knows. Everything just sucks. Somebody cheer me up.

It's an interesting point

I wonder how many conversations were had about it. I would imagine the necessary precautions were taken but who the heck knows if there were any loose lips after the fact.

stupid post

Only someone who hasn't followed the meat of these NSA leaks could leap to such absurd conclusions.

"What is that devastating piece of information that Snowden says he knows that could be so painful for the American government?"

Snowden did not make any such statement. You can end the ridiculous speculation exercise right there. What this website you've linked to may be referencing are recent misquotations and out of context statement of both Snowden and Greenwald by the media to play up some sort of blackmail scenario whereby Snowden is going to unleash the US Gov's "worst nightmare" via a huge data dump if he is to be assassinated, disappeared, ect.

A recent Reuters article doing just this prompted Glenn Greenwald to directly address their shit article:

http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2013/jul/13/reuters-...

What's even stupider is

The Squib is satire.....

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Only someone with an arrogant attitude,

could reach such a conclusion as you just did!

what conclusion did I make?

what conclusion did I make?

1350 feet in 10 and 12 seconds.

right straight through the path of the most resistance.
twice in one day.... never happened before or since that time.

and by the way, that was YOUR point, not mine.
peace.

Quote me where I said

Quote me where I said anything about 9/11. I made a very clear point that this random website that was linked to and quoted from made a false statement that did not come from Snowden.

Unlike my post (which you completely failed to comprehend), this random website used the false quote as their only grounding to then leap to the conclusion that Booze Allen Hamilton, for some reason or another, had 9/11 inside job documents stored on their servers for Snowden to take.

point taken, my bad.

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OHHHH

DANGGGG! SNAPPITY SNAP!

I'm not a conspiracy theorist, I'm just well-informed

911-?


If Snowden has any valuable information about the Sept 11 air defense breakdown, or the Dick Cheney stand-down order, or what exactly Rumsfeld got to hit side of the Pentagon, or about the Towers exploding into dust clouds and collapsing at free-fall speeds -- then Snowden should absolutely release and disclose that information now (while he still has the chance).

The perpetrators of 911 (Bush family {father/son/cousin}, Cheney, Rumsfeld, Gen Meyers, CIA, etc.) have been protected for way too long here.

The only thing that will ever set the World free is the truth.
The only thing that might possibly cause a long overdue political realignment and shake-up in this Country is the truth.


sure he does

and i bet it would in his death card.

I'm tempted to call this #RonPaulProblems

Let's see...

NSA revelations that, if true, show the construction of, as Snowden put it, the 'architecture of oppression.' What I call the largest blackmail machine in world history. Let's leave all of that aside and assume that Edward Snowden is a 'Truther' because he must have seen the emails and the text messages of Bohemian Grove members...

Let's take mind blowing facts and focus on speculation about speculations. Come to think of it, this is the most brilliant way to pigeon hole Edward Snowden. He's a truther. Is this Coast to Coast Am?
Don't get me wrong, I enjoy that show! Let me grab a drink and a blanket and enjoy the ride...

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bump pooty

slang it out there Snowy !

makes sense to me

He had visibility

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