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Why People Should Be Outraged at Zimmerman's 'Not Guilty' Verdict

This is exactly how I feel about this whole mess.... I don't agree with many of Cenk's politics but I do respect him for speaking honestly about his beliefs. He seems like an honorable man.

The reaction of many of my fellow patriots regarding this tragedy really disappointed me and the reaction of the scumbag opportunist across this country who are now destroying their own cities is even more disappointing.

It appears that many of us are falling for the same old divide and conquer routine.



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Cyril's picture

Collectivist / socialist / liberal / group think in one sentence

I totally hear you.

Here's the collectivist / socialist / liberal / group think, in one sentence :

"You better find normal to give stuff to the groups I have deemed important, or I'll have my buddies make laws to force you at gun point, you selfish individualist monster!"

...

Sounds about right, or did I miss something?

(as for communists, they are either mere downright thugs or braindead beggars)

...

You're much welcome, but hey:

All credits for the debunking should go to men like Frederic Bastiat or Benjamin Constant... 150+ years ago.

(Granted, I'm only a nobody who can read and speak in English or French the 10 page booklet of the Constitution and the Bill of Rights that fits on 1 page. Our liberal friends know so much better than we do, of course.)

'Hope it helps,

"Cope with them."

"Cyril" pronounced "see real". I code stuff.

http://Laissez-Faire.Me/Liberty

"To study and not think is a waste. To think and not study is dangerous." -- Confucius

Young Turk didn't watch the trial

Here's another totally uninformed wannabe newscaster who's ignorance of the facts of the case are appalling, or, he's another racist extremist trying to twist the truth to fit his contrived narrative in an attempt to trash an innocent man's reputation, one who was punched in the face hard enough to break his nose, knocked to the ground, had his head pounded against the concrete so viciously to the point that he was fearful that Martin would succeed in getting his firearm and killing him while he was unconscious. Zimmerman was totally in the right and this contrived rehashing is completely baseless. Trayvon Martin was the aggressor.

The jury rendered a just verdict - GET OVER IT!!

This isn't a matter of a snotty nosed kid defending himself against a vigilante stalker. Zimmerman's role as the neighborhood watch patrol was in line with what he was supposed to do, warn the cops of suspicious activity, which he did and was nearly killed in a vicious assault by a wannabe gangsta in a hoodie for his trouble

The cops didn't charge Zimmerman because all of the evidence reflected his narrative of events as truthful and the police correctly concluded that there was absolutely no grounds for a charge against him, not even for disturbing the peace.

It only takes one to KEEP AMERICANS FREE. Know your duties & rights as a juror. Stop the unconstitutional conviction of innocents in federal custody. The Fully Informed Jury CALL 1-800-TEL-JURY www.fija.org IMMEDIATELY if not sooner. It's that important.

This will not end with Zimmerman

The progressive liberal right and left will keep stoking the fires for racial or class warfare after this dies down. They will find another Zimmerman. Having family from a former commie country. One thing happens progressive liberals die out from starvation.Unless they work for government. No checks in the mail. No real health care. Abortions for all. You will be on your own. The country of Serbia averge income now income is 750 dollars a year.
Tell me what progressive liberal right or left could live long on that income. If you are not a physical, trade, barterer self sustaining person. Your toast. Then don't forget our big gaint "praetorian " class of people. They will be OK. The rest will not be so lucky. Don't worry about them in DC especially George Town not having water in this week. There bathing in Perrier water. Back to the garden and canning.

Money talks and dogs bark

I really sick of all these TV personalities

rehashing the trial and particularly their attempts to come up with better "What If's" and "Could Haves" than the Prosecution did.

It is way past time tho to move on to all the extra-illegalities by the DOJ, The media, and the State of Florida's Prosecution Office, and,the professional race baiter's like Sharpton, JJ, and Crump (It's pathetic to me how everyone directly involved in this case immediately lawyered up—except Zimm.)

It's their actions that have put us all in danger of malicious prosecution and arrests without probable cause.

"If you want something you've never had before, you have to do something you've never done before." Debra Medina

Once I heard Trayvon

was home safely and decided to go back out and confront Zimmerman, that was it case closed, not guilty.

Those who expect to reap the blessings of freedom must. like men, undergo the fatigue of supporting it.-Thomas Paine

The R3volution requires action, not observation!!!!

I never saw that, what I heard was...

That when Martin fled out of Zimmerman's sight he was within 30 seconds of his fathers home. Since the incident occurred further away from that it would appear that Martin did not make an attempt to get home, and supports what Zimmerman told police. During the 9-11 call before Zimmerman was supposedly chasing martin he stated that he had "lost him" and walked a distance to the next road and gave 9-11 an address, then he may or may not have pursued Martin as there was only 2.5 minutes after that call before the neighbor called 9-11 back, 45 seconds later the shot was heard. It appears from the evidence we have that at one time Martin did have the option to go into his fathers home and did not, and then there was the altercation.

Always remember:
"It does not require a majority to prevail, but rather an irate, tireless minority keen to set brush fires in people's minds." ~ Samuel Adams
If they hate us for our freedom, they must LOVE us now....

Stay IRATE, remain TIRELESS, an

I have held back and not

I have held back and not commented on this, as I think my comments would be unpopular, but I can hold back no more. I was not in the court room. I did not hear all of the testimony that the jury heard. In a legal trial by his peers, the jurors acquitted him. I do not believe that they all were racist nor paid off in any way. They delivered a verdict based on the facts that they heard and evaluated. We did not hear it all.
There it is.

I'm glad

you jumped in. Anyone who intrinsically believes in freedom, liberty, and the Rule of Law, probably recognized from the get-go that we are all Zimmerman and could just as easily find ourselves in his shoes fighting for our lives in a system of lawlessness.

"If you want something you've never had before, you have to do something you've never done before." Debra Medina

Cenk`s helping push the leftist agenda.

To take away our 2nd amendment rights guaranteed by the Constitution.

It is hard to imagine a more stupid or more dangerous way of making decisions than by putting those decisions in the hands of people that pay no price for being wrong.
Thomas Sowell

This whole thing

is a cherry-picked hot button to distract and enrage those who refuse to see the truth.

There are so many incidents around this country similar to this scenario yet the media and this administration pays no attention.

For example - in Chicago a black man driving under the influence ran over and killed a white man. Hit and run. Where is the outrage? The victim was only 22 years old. Where is the media?

Driver arrested in fatal hit-and-run in Oak Park
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/suburbs/oak_park_ri...

Christopher Swordy, 22, loved poetry and music
http://www.oakpark.com/News/Articles/7-16-2013/Christopher-S...

The Zimmerman case went to trial, the jury decided based on the evidence, it's over. This happens every day in this country. The masses are being played.

The law cannot make a wicked person virtuous…God’s grace alone can accomplish such a thing.
Ron Paul - The Revolution

Setting a good example is a far better way to spread ideals than through force of arms. Ron Paul

I will tell you where the media is.

The latest commercial I've seen.

Scene 1. Black family getting in car man talking on phone says "OK we will be their in a minute." Hangs up phone. Nice music playing on car radio.

Scene 2. White girl getting in car with her phone. Ghetto thump music playing on car radio.

Scene 3. Black family smiling as they drive down the road, father keeping eyes on road. Nice music playing on the radio.

Scene 4. White girl driving down the road staring at phone punching keys. Ghetto thump music playing on the radio.

Scene 5. Car with white girl crosses lane running head on into car with black family.

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Next commercial

Scene 1. Black home owner takes out trash.

Scene 2. White middle aged woman pulls up in car and steals black home owners trash.

Scene 3. White middle aged woman sitting in her living room rummaging through black home owners trash.

Scene 4. Black home owner finds out that their bank account has been cleaned out.

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Next commercial

Scene 1. Man pays for meal at restaurant with credit card. Hands it to white waitress.

Scene 2. While man talks to customer on next chair white waitress copies credit card number to steal mans identity.

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And the list continues. White man steals identity. White man kicks in home owners door. White girl steals mail out of mail box. Hooded white man breaks glass to burglarize home. White kids run over black children while using cell phones. etc etc...

These are just a few of the real commercials that I have seen lately (withing the last year or so). Some are by companies trying to sell their product and some by some government agency as a public service message.

The one thing they all have in common is that white people are at fault for all the crime and bad things. I have never seen one of these commercials where a black person is portrayed as the "bad guy".

This is not random coincidence.

Don't forget DHS!

There was a piece not too long ago, one of those "see something, say something" pieces, where all but one of the 'terrorists' shown were white men (in the name of diversity, one of the 'terrorists' was a stereotypical scary Arab), and all the upstanding citizens were black, Latino, and Asian.

Anti-Arab and anti-White bigotry is not only acceptable, but encouraged in this country. The worst part is, most whites seem to think it's their duty to perpetuate such a mindset, to make up for something that their great grandparents may or may not have done.

Absolutely ridiculous.

A signature used to be here!

Only a small percentage of whites owned slaves.

You would think that all whites owned slaves by how it is portrayed. The fact is that a only small percentage owned slaves. There were also WHITE SLAVES that are never talked about as well as BLACK SLAVE OWNERS that are never talked about.

You're correct, it is absolutely ridiculous that the white race is being systematically demonized by these racist campaigns. And we all know what comes after demonization.

I was saying..

the same thing to my wife. If black people were going to riot why not pick any number of incidents from around the country where they were truly the victim of police brutality and violence by a real cop. In the case of zimmerman/martin I don't think it is as cut and dry. I certainly don't think it is a case of institutionalized racism, hell Martin and Zimmerman are almost the same color. It was as if this whole fiasco was set up to fail the moment the prosecution/holder decided to over try the case. Ensuring outrage in the street when a jury could not reach verdict on intentionally trumped up charges. It is an even sadder statement that the media has the abiliy to polarize the races even when the crime is brown on brown.

Where's the outrage over the 700+ young black men

who've been shot and killed in Chicago since Martin was killed?

This case, whether you agree with it or not, is closed. Move on to more important things going on while your attention is ONCE AGAIN subverted by this Media Circus.

"We are not human beings having a spiritual experience; we are spiritual beings having a human experience"—Pierre Teilhard de Chardin

What about Bradley Manning?

What about Bradley Manning, the young hero who exposed the atrocities permitted by this administration on the citizens of foreign countries who is being persecuted quietly while the DOJ and Obozo keep the racial fires burning over this circus?

Where is the media, the outrage, the good people so upset with injustice?

What a joke!

Scream injustice for a violent banger and sleep while a hero is being persecuted!

How proud you all must be of yourselves!

If you can read this thank a teacher. Because it's in English thank a soldier!

"The American Republic will endure until the day Congress discovers that it can bribe the public with the public's money."
- Alexis de Tocqueville

Bradley Who ?

Lets talk more about Zimmerman's cousins accusations

Too emotionally charged

You just need to calmly look at the evidence which this fool isn't mentioning at all.
1. Injuries to Zimmerman are proof that his life was in danger, no injuries to Martin except for the gunshot, proof that Zimmerman does not appear to be fighting back until the gunshot.
2. Eyewitness testimony from someone who was very close to the scene saying that Martin was on top of Zimmerman.
3. Martin's Father when first asked said the voice on the tape crying for help was NOT Martin. 4-5 different witnesses said it was Zimmerman.

No one was celebrating that a teenager (who happens to be black) lost his life. They were glad that the justice system worked because based on the evidence and testimony (not emotions or racially charged media reports) this was a clear cut case of classic self defense.

"Once you become knowledgeable, you have an obligation to do something about it."- Ron Paul

Martin did have injuries.

Martin did have injuries. They were on his knuckles (again, more possible proof of pounding on somebody)

The only time I feel I should be outraged is when some

fool goes and tells me to be outraged.

Thanks, but I am not a naïve 12yo - I can decide for myself when to be outraged.

Nice rant, seems to overlook important details of the case.

It took a lot of restraint to listen to the whole thing before commenting, but here is my take on his rant and the case.

TYT said that anyone who believes that Trayvon doubled back is a racist. But he seems to overlook the facts of the case, he built the strawman argument that Trayvon didn't go to Zimmerman's house, knock on the door, and ask him to follow him with his 9mm so he could get in a fight as an unarmed teen. But as I said, he overlooks a key fact, Trayvon Martin had close to (4) four minutes to cover some couple of hundred feet, likewise Rachel Jenteal stated that he said he lost him (most likely at the 'T'). Trayvon had time and opportunity to get to his dad's house. The only logical conclusions that can be drawn from that are that Trayvon walks slower than a night of the living dead zombie, he hung around near where he lost Zimmerman, or he doubled back. Based on Jenteal's statement that he was near his dad's place, I'm inclined to choose doubled back. That doesn't make me racists, that makes me objective and reasonable.

What I have taken from my time at DP is that people here have a desire to dig deeper than the surface story. The rant by TYT seemed to be counter to that. What I have found odd has been the reluctance to examine Trayvon. TYT complains that a toxicology report was done on Trayvon, but I wonder if it went far enough, was it capable of finding OTC drugs. More importantly, I believe Trayvon needs to be looked into because it could very well hold the key to why the physical altercation started in the first place.

Based on some of the information I have read recently on here in fact, I believe Trayvon's use of 'sizzurp' may have played a role. But it seems the media and the Trayvon supporters don't seem interested in finding the truth, they are only interested in pushing a racial agenda or painting Trayvon as the 12 year-old boy.

Trayvon's death was tragic, but I look at this from the viewpoint of John Locke's position on the use of deadly force. Being followed isn't a manner of being placed under the control of someone else. Neither is being called names or looked at funny or asked questions or what have you. What we know based on Rachel Jenteal's testimony is that Trayvon initiated the conversation by saying, 'Why you following me for?' And shortly afterwards she heard the thud and wrestling. Outside of that and Zimmerman's account, we don't anymore ... since Zimmerman's account has Trayvon approaching and challenging him as to whether he has a problem. I'm inclined to say that Trayvon did in fact initiate the contact.

Unlike TYT line of thought, the only unlawful act in question is who started the physical altercation, of which, based on the totality of the event, I'm left with the only possible conclusion that Trayvon overstepped the bounds and put himself in a state of war with Zimmerman. Which made it both reasonable and just for Zimmerman to employ the use of deadly force. I'm not cheering for Trayvon's death, and I'm not defending Zimmerman. I'm hoping and praying that the black community is capable of understanding the most basic principle of the first law of nature.

Plus those who actually listened to

the trial and actually tried to understand the applicable law, know that the forensic gun shot wounds proved who was on top--as in --had the upper hand.

So, "What if" Zimm had not been carrying that night?

Actually, O'Mara went one better with his own "What If" during Kao's cross exam, (the lying coroner witness). After he finally got her to admit there were at MINIMUM, 4 impacts to Zimm's head—instead of one—he asked her.... "What about the next one?". The Prosecution, whose fact-less case was all "What Ifs", "Could Haves", cried speculation! and the Judge sustained.

But not an easy bell to un-ring.

BTW, Cenkster, Zimm passed the lie-detector that night.

"If you want something you've never had before, you have to do something you've never done before." Debra Medina

Seems like you kept up with

Seems like you kept up with case. I didn't watch it and was wondering something. I have a 50+ year old cousin who lives in a Florida town near where it happened. She said that when the incident was being first reported on in her newspapers, they had mentioned that Martin was carrying a sack that held tools used to break into homes. Do you know if that was ever mentioned in the trial?

I remember

Report was about backpack at school. I don't remember if he had a screwdriver in his pocket that night. I tend to think he was one of the guys taking stuff from houses, especially if he needed money for the codeine used in "Lean", he texted about. If there was no codeine in his system, he was likely irritable, if not in withdrawal! Zimmerman's report of the route he took, never changed. Martin got home, safely, but chose to go back!? It was self defense against a black child, who thought it was cool to be a thug!

You know. Kids learn from their elders' behavior! It's sort of like the police do to black people. The problem is the, out of control, thug like, police, and failed drug war!

The sack is probably a

The sack is probably a reference to the reason why Trayvon Martin was suspended from school (may had been part of a previous suspension) and why he was in Orlando with his dad instead of at home getting ready for school the following morning. In his book bag he had some tools, some women's jewelry that wasn't his, and traces of marijuana. When this started to come out, that was when the media and the representatives of Trayvon started pushing the narrative that Trayvon shouldn't be put on trial.

I agree on some levels but I also believe that there were crucial pieces of evidence that should have been allowed in support of both sides that weren't.

stephen moleynew

has a great video about the use of that drink in particular and it's chemical effects on a person.

let's see. a chemical addiction that makes you paranoid. you're addicted. you've got your ingredients and are steps away from home when you notice someone thinks you look suspicious.

chances are good you act more suspicious b/c you are thinking about doing something illegal, you become paranoid if that indeed is a sideeffect, and i would guess violent as you are missing your fix.

but lets ignore all that. the volunteer protecting the community is the bad guy. how easily some are manipulated.

Here is an example

Of sort of a similar case, except the person defending himself was black, and the person shot was a white teenager. If NY had the stand your ground case he probably would have been not guilty, but instead the governor pardoned him after 5 months in Jail. The hypocrisy is stunning, as is the impact of perceived history on people's thinking.

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/12/24/nyregion/24commute.html?_r=0

This is exactly how I feel...

about this whole mess...


http://youtu.be/IqbIZqznaX0

“Let it not be said that no one cared, that no one objected once it’s realized that our liberties and wealth are in jeopardy.”
― Ron Paul

Cops are dignified???

...and gangsters are not??? Sorry Schiff, but I side with Spooner on this on this one:

"The highwayman (ganster) takes solely upon himself the responsibility, danger, and crime of his own act. He does not pretend that he has any rightful claim to your money (like governmental enforcement class; cops), or that he intends to use it for your own benefit. He does not pretend to be anything but a robber (gangster)."

I thought Schiff was a reasonable man. Now he is moral authority on this case based on "evidence" he possesses- text messages. Give me a break!

Again, this is all BS- taking people's attention from real important issues.

"We’ve moved beyond the Mises textbook. We’re running in the open market." - Erik Voorhees

Forty seconds

That's how long the recording revealed Zimmerman was screaming for help.

Open and shut.