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Why People Should Be Outraged at Zimmerman's 'Not Guilty' Verdict

This is exactly how I feel about this whole mess.... I don't agree with many of Cenk's politics but I do respect him for speaking honestly about his beliefs. He seems like an honorable man.

The reaction of many of my fellow patriots regarding this tragedy really disappointed me and the reaction of the scumbag opportunist across this country who are now destroying their own cities is even more disappointing.

It appears that many of us are falling for the same old divide and conquer routine.

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Then when I went to lunch today I was assaulted by over 100

people walking behind me downtown.

Your definition of force is nothing more than a paper crutch to support your narrative and is ridiculous. Zimmerman may well have initiated Martin's disdain by following him, but none of that is against the law. The initiation of true force is.

Always remember:
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I disagree...

"No matter how you slice it?" Maybe no matter how YOU slice, it, but I define "force" differently, and slice accordingly. Anyone can walk on any public street. Barring the existence of a restraining order, anyone can follow anyone from a distance if they so choose. One may find being followed annoying or discomfiting, but I can't see how it can reasonably be defined as force, or more aptly, violence, against him. Punching someone in the face however, unequivocally is.

If someone were to follow me and I confronted him, I might ask strongly "why are you following me? Who are you?" etc. If they replied that they were with the neighborhood watch, keeping an eye out due to recent burglaries, I might say "thank you for helping to protect our neighborhood! I live over there at [address.] Have a good night." And walk away. Or maybe I would ask him where he lived and name some people we might know in common. Maybe I would offer the watchman to walk with me to my door. Maybe I would offer him some of my skittles. One thing I would certainly NOT do, unless physically assaulted, would be to put him in a ground-and-pound, which, if you have any fight training/knowledge at all you'll know, is in fact a deadly position.

In the very realistic and reasonable alternative scenario above, where is the force/violence? Clearly, there is none.

Treyvon certainly could have chosen that kind of rout - but that is not one that would satisfy the macho ego of any young man looking to prove his toughness to himself and the world.

Throwing a punch instead was obviously an immature emotional decision, and the outcome was tragic. We've all done stupid things in the process of growing up, and it is always tragic when a young person pays for one of those stupid things with his life, never getting the opportunity to out-grow the internal motivators behind it. But when that happens, and said youth has chosen to pose an imminent threat to the life of another, the target of that threat cannot be legitimately blamed for the tragedy.

That's a stretch

It might, with certain facts to back it up, be considered harassment, but following him is certainly not the use of force.

Zimmerman did something that TM didn't like, felt intimidated or threatened by, or was otherwise uncomfortable with - even if we believe Zimmerman's account. Perhaps it was criminal behavior on GZ's part - but it was not force and did not call for retaliatory use of, or justify the defensive use of force, by TM.

But Zimmerman does not appear to be the one who crossed the line into the use of physical force.

I've followed TYT for a long time...

And I have found them to be more libertarian on social issues than many conservatarians such as "the southern avenger"-statist-lapdog of the GOP.

Without a doubt, I have begun the discover the nasty side of the liberty movement through all of this zimmerman bs; the hidden, underlying racism, that is nothing less than just pure shame.

... while all of this zimmercrap is on every ones mind, Bradley "Our Hero" Manning has been on trial- and Michael "balls of steel" Hastings had an "accident."

I'm proud of the TYT for being on top of Hastings' car "accident."

"We’ve moved beyond the Mises textbook. We’re running in the open market." - Erik Voorhees

Blah blah blah

"Without a doubt, I have begun the discover the nasty side of the liberty movement through all of this zimmerman bs; the hidden, underlying racism, that is nothing less than just pure shame."

So sick of THIS BS.

Here a little hint for you about liberty. It encompasses the good and the bad alike. While some people may indeed be racist, let me say this Clearly...."That is there right!" Your or I may not agree with it, may even be filled with "shame" but all of that is irrelevant. Being tolerant is not about just being tolerant to minorities and issues of race but also issues of differing opinions. If someone wants to be a racist and abides but the non aggression principle, tolerance would dictate we accept those misguided views though we disagree with them.

Liberty brings us all together the good and the bad. If you would like to be a part of some sort or "my morals" party I suggest you look elsewhere than the liberty movement.

Embrace differnt people and views, win over hearts and minds with logic and facts. Emotion has no place in this. Politics based on emotion has no place in the liberty movement. Being ashamed is a result of someone or thing not living up to YOUR expectations. Defend my right to say what I please even if you disagree and i will do the same for you. Embrace liberty good and Bad. You never know when all of a sudden your views are considered radical or even racial.


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I agree with you...

Just remember that racism is a collectivist mindset; antithetical to the libertarian understanding of individual human dignity.

((You are right from a descriptive-ethical perspective; i.e., there will always racist people. Don't forget the other normative-ethical libertarian emphasis aside from the non aggression principle; i.e., that the individual is he who acts, reasons, and thinks- not the collective- therefore, we should always stand up for the individual over any collectivist mindset.))

TPTB understand the importance of keeping the public tuned into this collectivist line of thought.

Issues that truly affect everyone are being side-stepped with this zimmerman nonsense: such as, Bradley Mannings trial, and Michael Hastings "accident."

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Thank You!

I'm starting to feel like I'm alone here.

I never

once celebrated the kids death. As a matter of fact I prayed for him.

Sorry to break it you people but this is a self defense case. The fact that he is a kid is the reason of the outrage.

The Young Turks are by far the most annoying people ever to listen to. They act like they are sooooo smart.

I hate Cenk

But this clip was Spot on. There is NOTHING to celebrate after someones life has been lost even in self-defense.

His name is Edward Snowden

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Very well said. I am

Very well said. I am surprised how the racial stereotyping expoused by Zimmerman's brother, Rivera, Schiff, etc. is just accepted around here.

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While this whole thing is certainly

A MSM attempt to shift the focus from matters of importance to matters of insignificance(how many people were shot and killed yesterday and for what reason?), Cenk is knee deep in the bullshit propaganda narrative.