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Federal Court Overturns Block on NDAA Indefinite Detention

Americans can legally be kidnapped and held without trial

Paul Joseph Watson
July 17, 2013

The Second Circuit court has overturned a temporary injunction which had blocked the indefinite detention provision of the National Defense Authorization Act (NDAA) – meaning Americans can now once again be kidnapped and held without trial.


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You mean the federal government didn't support limiting the federal government?

I am shocked!


Liberty = Responsibility



Downvoted due to lack of credible source

As a Paul supporter who does not wish to be associated with the propaganda of Alex Jones and his affiliates, I do not approve of linking to "news" items from "InfoWars" or any other Jones-associated site.

If you like Jones, fine. That's your thing. But I don't post links to websites that might embarrass you, so please don't post links to websites that embarrass most mainstream Paul supporters.

This isn't about the value of Jones, whether he's right or wrong, and it certainly isn't about censorship. It's about having the decency to prevent "movement creep" and not co-opting (intentionally or otherwise) the liberty movement on behalf of conspiracy-based shock jocks.

The InfoWars article cites a

The InfoWars article cites a Zerohedge article, which uses a Reuters article as its source. I don't understand what you mean by "lack of credible source." Just do a Internet search using something like "indefinite detention appeal" and you will come up with numerous "credible sources." This is a real story covered by an alternative media source that has proven time and again it can back up its claims. Do they add their opinion to things? Yes. But, we all know that Infowars is about exposing abuses. What's the problem? Do you know how many newsworthy events I wouldn't know about if it wasn't for outfits like Infowars and guys like Alex Jones?

If you call politico reiable then here you go.


It's time! Rand Paul 2016!

"Truth, Justice, and the American Way!"

Well, I guess we don't have to concern

ourselves with trials anymore.... Zimms, Mannings, Snowdens, Hudes...I guess that's a good thing since Zimm's in particular, was getting on some peoples nerves. Our corpuses are Obama's now! Whew, what a burden it was having to struggle everyday for so many other's asses. We can all go back to sleep now.[all sarcasm]

"If you want something you've never had before, you have to do something you've never done before." Debra Medina

Supreme Court Calisthenics. You must have standing.

http://youtu.be/KvgDOhoHw5E 1 minute, pre-trial stretches.

While attorneys merely practice law, judges do stretches. Can you do this?

Disclaimer: Mark Twain (1835-1910-To be continued) is unlicensed. His river pilot's license went delinquent in 1862. Caution advised. Daily Paul

Aye ...

and since you are not presently or previously a "covered persons" as defined by the legislation, subjected to "detention under the law of war without trial until the end of the hostilities authorized by the Authorization for Use of Military Force," then you have no standing to make any constitutional objection to:

"§1021: (a) Congress affirms that the authority of the President to use all necessary and appropriate force pursuant to the Authorization for Use of Military Force . . . includes the authority for the Armed Forces of the United States to detain covered persons . . . pending disposition under the law of war"

Congress's authority to domestically apply laws of war to U.S. persons in the several states, U.S. territory, or other U.S. jurisdictions when no declaration of war or military authorization exists which defines a foreign belligerent party possessing power and engaged in domestic hostilities.