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GOP Leaders Face Libertarian Revolt Over NSA, Egypt, Syria

By Matt Fuller | July 19, 2013

House GOP leaders are scrambling to quell a quiet libertarian rebellion that threatens to block consideration of the Defense appropriations bill.

A small group of Republicans are holding the spending bill hostage until they get votes on several controversial amendments.

“We’ve conveyed to the whip team that we won’t vote for the rule if they don’t allow debate and votes,” Thomas Massie, R-Ky., said Friday. “We don’t need all the amendments to be allowed. We need at least one substantial amendment on three things: Egypt, Syria and NSA.”

Massie has two amendments before the Rules Committee: one that would defund military operations in Syria and one that would defund military operations in Egypt. Another leader in the Republican rebellion, Justin Amash of Michigan, has an amendment that would end funds for the National Security Agency’s blanket collection of telephone call records in the wake of Edward Snowden’s leaking of the program.

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your right.

Let me tell how the LP works. The LP is a bottom up Party. We know the average voters are sheeple so we get republicans Libertarians to be our Presidential candidate because we know we are going too lose. In 2012 Johnson's job was to water down Libertarianism and educate the public about the LP. The True Libertarian Candidates are like me and run local and state races. ( if I run for Senate I need to water down message a lot.) For example if Gary Johnson was a teacher he would be teaching intro to the LP 100 and I would be teaching Libertarian 230.

Ron Pauls 08, 12 campaign was planned out by the LP. RON IS A LIBERTARIAN IN GOP CLOSE. He is a life member of the LP! The Ron Paul Revolution is a LIBERTARIAN revolution. Now we have the gop where we want them. We cost them the last two Presidential elections!! It took us 42 years but if the GOP don't become More Libertarian they will die! Thanks for being enslaved and working for the LP IN THE GOP!! Like i said before I rather lose than work in that Nazi party I let you do that job for me! Because I am Libertarian and a free man!

Are you in the GOP?

You let me do that job for you.

I'm not doing my job for you. I promise you, I will dissappoint you, and you will have no one but your paracitic self to blame.

Join me INSIDE or prepare to slip off your soapbox.

Granger!

Guess what came in the mail today!

My Ron Paul Institute for Peace and Prosperity STICKER!

Since it is going on my car, the city will not be burdened with taking it down!

:-)

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Congratulations (((PAF))))

I hope they help you find the balls to get in the GOP.

Cruisin for a bruisin http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x0jUFq3k7DA

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Back in the day...

I used to win disco contests. Then I went on to judge them! Before I went on to better things:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wK63eUyk-iM

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Well,

I'm sorry I didn't know you back in the day.. I admit, as much as I love to dance, and I do.. I don't have a disco trophy. Wish I did.

You got me on that one.

Touche for you!!

You really do love your thumbs down huh?

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I think

that she gives herself the first down vote lol.

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Dude, label is spelled...

L-A-B-E-L.

Granger is a she, and she's

Granger is a she, and she's dyslexic. You'll have to debate her on substance, not style.

Thank you

I hired an editor to help my dyslexic head get through college.. I'm on the National Dean's list.. appears ideas are not as important as spelling, as one can hire an editor.. but good ideas are harder and more expensive.

When you get a good idea

will you please post it here?

"It is difficult to free fools from the chains they revere".
--Voltaire

It's hard not to be a menace to society when half the population is happy on their knees. - unknown

If it came from you

of course it would be!

"It is difficult to free fools from the chains they revere".
--Voltaire

It's hard not to be a menace to society when half the population is happy on their knees. - unknown

Saving money is just so hard

Saving money is just so hard isnt it? I mean it will cause people major pain if we dont go spend lots of money to do fun military stuff in these countries.

On a more serious note, continuing to spend money we dont have should be considered un-american because you are harming the country.

To climb the mountain, you must believe you can.

libertarians?

Amash is a Republican. This is not Libertarians, but Republicans who are materializing Ron Paul's message.

libertarians in principle

Who cares about the brand! The principles and the actions matter.

If you don't care about the brand

then why not give credit where it is due rather than claim if for a party waiting for the next republican to clip on a LP pin to give the LP nonmination?

Granger,

parties are meaningless as far as ideology goes. Parties are just a means to an end. There are libertarians who are not Libertarians, just as there are Libertarians who are not by any means libertarians (and Republicans who are not republicans). No one is claiming credit for the LP for what liberty oriented Republicans are doing. It is partyarchists (a term invented by SE Konkin III) like you who put party above principle that the whole Ron Paul movement is fighting against.

If that is true

why not join the GOP?

Yes they are a means to the end, the end being who is elected.. so if you really wanted Ron, Rand and Amash seated, you would join the GOP.

Political principle is you stay with your party even when you lose.. Ron Paul for example voted NO.. ate linch by homself.. but hew stayed in the GOP.

Granger,

I am registered to vote as a Republican currently. That is not the issue. The issue was your statement that, essentially, Ron Paul and other liberty oriented Republicans were not libertarians. Please quit trying to confuse things.

THEY ARE NOT LIBERTARIANS

They are registered Republicans

They are not members of the

Libertarian (Big-L) party. However, they are philosophically libertarian (little-l). Libertarianism as a political philosophy existed long before there was a Libertarian Party. And, to be correct about things, Ron Paul actually is lifetime member of both the Texas and National Libertarian parties.

They are still in the GOP

and the point is, saying they are libertarians is to do what? Get people in the LP?

No,

most people do not even know the LP exists. Saying they are libertarians is to introduce people to the philosophy of liberty. The goal of most people on this site (with a few notable exceptions) is not to get Republicans elected, it is to create a free society. Frankly, I don't care by what political process we get there. If somehow a liberty advocate were to get the Democratic party nomination, I wouldn't hesitate to vote for them.

party above principle...

that sums it all up.

Nice.

And for the most part, anymore it is true.

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The author from that

The author from that virtually unknown web site used a lowercase "L". Nothing wrong with that.

I think it's misleading

When I was a libertarian, I took my party VERY seriously..
How would you like it if, gawd only knows who is leading the LP now, had made a political advancement and the virtually unknown web site used a lowercase "D" to give credit to the movers and shakers in the LP?

And if you don't care, why be there?