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Destroy the Myth of Tyrant FDR's 'Greatness': When the Mob takes 40% of Your Earnings, They Don't Sue You Afterwards!

Govt: the only psychotic institution in the world, known to men, who thinks it's 'deserved' your hard labor, blood, sweat, and tears, and still have the gall to sue & SWAT you.

Did you know that the FEDs literally steal 40% of all small raisin farmers' annual harvest? Well, they do. And when the 'ants' decided to stand up, the psychotic maggots had to show them who the boss is:

Feds vs. Raisins: Small Farmers Stand Up to the USDA

Published on Jul 18, 2013

"They want us to pay for our own raisins that we grew," says Raisin Valley Farms owner Marvin Horne. "We have to buy them back!"

This is but one absurdity that Marvin and his wife Laura have faced during their decade-long legal battle with the United States Department of Agriculture (USDA). Every year, the Hornes plant seeds, tie vines, harvest fruit, and place grapes in paper trays to create sun-dried raisins. And every year, the federal government prevents them from bringing their full harvest to market.

It's called an agriculture marketing order. Depression-era regulations meant to stabilize crop prices endanger the livelihoods of small farmers across the country, but the raisin marketing order is particularly egregious. An elected board of bureaucrats known as the Raisin Administrative Committee decides what the proper yield should be in any given year in order to meet a previously decided-upon price. Once they can estimate the size of the year's harvest, they force every farmer to surrender a percentage of their crop to raisin packers like Sun-Maid. The packers then place the raisins in a "reserve pool," a special holding vat for raisins that cannot be sold in the U.S. Eventually, the packers can sell the reserve pool raisins overseas at highly discounted prices set by the government or funnel them into school lunch programs for next to nothing.

The government allows them to sell one out of every two raisins.The farmers were always supposed to get a percentage of the money raised from the reserve pool raisins, but as profit margins dwindled over the years, so did the return to farmers. The tipping point came in 2003, when farmers received zero dollars in return for the 47 percent of the crop they had surrendered.

"You can't work for a whole year and then give 47 percent of what you made away and still keep that business afloat," says Laura Horne.

Frustrated and desperate, the Hornes started packing and selling their own raisins, which they believed would allow them to circumvent the marketing order. In doing so, they inadvertantly sparked a small revolution, as other independent raisin farmers saw their initial success and began to pack and sell, too. The government wasn't happy (neither was Sun-Maid).

The USDA saddled the Hornes with massive fines in addition to demanding payment for the raisins they had failed to surrender. Marvin Horne estimates his outstanding balance at close to a million dollars, a virtually insurmountable figure for a small, family-owned farm. The Hornes decided to fight back.

When the Hornes andYeah, those raisins are gonna cost you. a few other raisin farmers tried to challenge the USDA's seizure of their crop without payment as an unconstitutional taking of property in violation of the Fifth Amendment, the government balked and said that the issue should be heard in a Federal Claims court, as the case had nothing to do with the taking of property but instead was a matter of the Hornes violating farming regulations and being fined for doing so. Remarkably, the 9th Circuit Court of Appeals agreed with the USDA and declared that they had no jurisdiction in the case. Luckily for the Hornes, however, the Supreme Court took the case and ruled, in a 9-0 decision, that the 9th Circuit was mistaken and must consider the case on its constitutional merits.

And now, after nearly a decade of fighting, the Hornes must wait a little longer. This saga may well end in 9th Circuit Court of Appeals in the next few months, or the Hornes may one day soon find themselves before the Supreme Court once again. A favorable legal outcome is far from certain, but their raisins—and our property rights—depend on it.

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Speaking to the choir here: while I, like most of y'all here, have always known that govt steals, and in particular, in the field of agriculture, they subsidize, intentionally dump/destroy inventory/harvest, and/or steal to pick winners (a payback for their bribing donor political overlords), and artificially manipulate prices (yet disgustingly, hypocritically, goes after others for doing the same exact thing: anti-trust & 'price fixing')

Still, I had absolutely ZERO clue that they actually steal, ANNUALLY, (though up to, but as of late, seems always) FORTY PERCENT (that's 40% motherf'ng percent!) of raisin farmers' harvest, and not pay a single penny for it! And, that's on top of taxes!

I mean what kind of crazy fascist, psychotic world terrorist govt (double redundant, but for the sake of discussion, go with me) is this??

I mean, just whoTF are these worthless bags of filth a-holes who decide it's 'noble' 'moral' or 'just' to pick on small farmers, to 'teach them a lesson'??

Just how insecure, overly-compensatory daddy-issued douchebag do you have to be to work in USDA/FDA (let alone all the other usual suspect alphabet Fed agency a-holes), and file suits, and order SWAT raids, for you to WANT to do this to your fellow Americans, daily, professionally??

I mean, how would you like to own a biz where you and your biz are taxed collectively up to 60%+, on top of that, the govt terrorists come in and literally steal, not figuratively, but LITERALLY STEAL 40% of your inventory, not compensate you, yet has the gall to sue you, afterwards?

Is there nothing Americans won't put up with?

Sure, I say that in the comfort of my own mini domain, but these truly backbreakingly hardworking 3% of American population who feed the rest of the world, this has got to be just unspeakably, shockingly insane, having to deal with this day in and day out (as if, unlike synthetic material production, having to deal with perishable products wholly dependent on one thing you can't truly control isn't harrowing enough: Mother Nature); don't know how they cope, and continue to do this, not just daily, but every single year!

Wow. Utterly speechless...

If you don't do biz with your local farmers, please, please, please, do so. Truly, the salt of the earth people. And, truly, if anyone deserves a random "thank you for your service," it's the indy farmers.


To all the 'well-meaning movement liberals': Do you REALLY, REALLY hate the corporatist industrialized farming, WalMart-ization of the economy?

Blame your God FDR, who basically de facto established the rule of "Get Big, or Get Out," paving way for corporatist big-box stores filled with temps and 2nd class to murky citizenship status.

YOUR 'progressivism' and "New Deal" have destroyed and bankrupted us, all!

As then, and decades later, now, you're watching the destruction of an entire society drowning under the weight of the heavy hand of the largest, most psychotic, sociopathic centralized govt the world has ever seen!

What's worse?

Even after your venting via 'Occupy,' even when the evidence of govt's fundamental inherent failures are all around ubiquitous (if not, should be now: how many Detroit bankruptcies must you see before you admit?), undeniable, and historically repetitive, not to mention literally still unfolding, in front of your eyes everyday now, and accelerating, and yet...you still want MORE of it?

You still want to empower your rapist to rape you more???

How could this be? What part of that says, 'sane?'

I 'get' that you are like that, but truly though, I don't get it.

Truly, ask yourselves: like some sort of a 'reverse-Midas Touch,' WHY does EVERYTHING the govt touches, turns into crap, destruction, and worse: people always end up dead or dying or in the process of dying, because of it???

Here's another one of its maddening failures, and corporatism writ large:

BANNED: Fung Wah, or How 'your' govt destroys lives and innovation...and a $10 Boston to NYC Bus Fare!

The Feds vs. the Chinatown Bus: The Glorious Rebirth of Bus Travel & Why the Gov't May Ruin it Again

Published on Jul 16, 2013

The long-distance busing industry was originally dominated by small scrappy companies competing fiercely to win over customers, only to become a government-protected cartel with declining ridership and all the competitive spirit of Ma Bell. A half-century later, busing returned to its glorious origins, but today it's in danger becoming a ward of the state once more.

In the 1910s, the very first American bus companies started picking up passengers on main streets all across America. There were few barriers to entry; entrepreneurs without much capital could buy or lease a motorcoach and then start doing regular pick-ups in front of a hotel or on a street corner.

Within a few years, local governments intervened to protect established companies from new competition. By 1925, most states required that bus companies apply for permission to service particular routes. The Motor Carrier Act of 1935 put the federal Interstate Commerce Commission (ICC) in charge of regulating bus travel. The ICC did everything from set ticket prices to grant established companies the exclusive right to operate between certain cities.

Protected from competition, bus companies grew indifferent to the changing tastes of their customers. Americans relocated to the suburbs, while car and air travel exploded in popularity. As inner-city depots became dangerous and decrepit, bus companies failed to alter their business models. After World War II, U.S. bus travel fell by half in just a decade and then it kept declining.

The industry languished for the next half century. In 1982, President Reagan deregulated intercity bus travel, which cleared the way for new companies to get into the business and start fighting to win back passengers, but for the next decade and a half not much changed. Then in the late 1990s, a group of immigrants from Fujian Province, China reinvented the bus industry in New York City's Chinatown. These entrepreneurs brought busing back to its roots of picking up passengers right off the street instead of from a traditional station. (The Chinatown bus companies became known as curbside carriers.) Once again, pretty much all you needed to start a bus company was a bus.

The Chinatown operators also figured out a way to win over customers that had eluded the established carriers for decades: charge really low prices. In short order, companies like Greyhound, Peter Pan, and Coach USA started opening their own curbside services, and today intercity busing is the fastest growing form of intercity transit in the U.S.

Today, history is repeating itself. An onslaught of new safety rules are forcing many small bus operations out of business, allowing the corporate carriers to grab more market share. On May 31, 2012, the Federal Motor Carrier Safety Administration shutdown 26 bus companies in a single day, and since then it has forced an additional 15 closures.

For a case study of the government's incompetence at regulating motorcoach travel, read "Why the Government Was Wrong to Shutdown Fung Wah Bus Company:"

Over-regulating bus lines actually makes passengers quite a bit less safe. Since all the shutdowns, ticket prices have spiked considerably. This means fewer people will be enticed to take the bus and leave their cars at home. Because buses are orders of magnitude safer than cars, travelers are far more likely to die on the highway.

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Rufus T. Firefly was a truly great leader.

Andrew Napolitano for President 2016!

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Bus Services

Should only be in the private sector and with no monopolies imo.

Monopolistic practices should be regulated.

I would be also accept a ratio with this respect otherwise the whole thing will get out of control again because it seems no one in government can say no.


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You're only shouting your outrage to the choir, here.

You're only shouting your outrage to the choir, here.

Well, yes, that's all about one of the Biggest and Longest Lies that we're still up against :

that "The Supermen" of State Almighty ever wanted, ever could, or ever will "redistribute fairly" wealth and product of honest human labor they have STOLEN AT GUN POINT.

Keep denouncing it as it is : the utmost gross insult to intelligence that is now getting really, really, outrageously old:


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yeah, but I still can't 'get over' the whole 40% part...

I mean, them thievin' is bad enough, but forty percent??

and these ARE the proverbial "good folks" the eponymous "salt of the earth farmers"

suppose in some sense, the bigger question is, WHY didn't they themselves challenge this, for I guess what maybe approaching 60yrs+ of such insane, fascist, tyrannical, govt theft of their property: at some level even the farmers themselves must've rationalized to themselves that the 40% cut to the govt mob, 'benefited' them somehow, no?

I still cannot believe that this went on for so long...

then again, suppose the Founders would say the same for ALL of us, when it comes to 'rationalizing' and 'accepting' the FED.Res/IRS and income tax/debt-slavery, for so f'ng long.

So, I 'get' that none of us are immune, but numbers and taxes being what they are, proportionally speaking, still: having 40% of your physical annual output in perishable goods stolen, I'd posit, that it definitely leaves a more visceral, physical gut-wrenching mark; like using credit/debit card: even though both cash and plastic are currencies (well, the latter merely a medium/instrument of its transmission, but for the sake of discussion...), almost everyone 'watches' more of how one spends their FRN's when they use cash, as in what's physically going in and out of your wallet and your pockets, than 'virtual' bits and magnetic swipes: all psychological...

40% though...

Hesus Cristos, there's no 'rationalizing' that anyway you cut it.

hot damn, the farmers have it truly rough: it's like in what universe do SERVANTS get to dictate how much of their EMPLOYER boss' earnings they're gonna take steal??

it's just insane. truly, if one sorta intellectually appreciated farmers before, I have a gazillion times more respect for them now: definitely a resilient bunch. god bless them all.

Predictions in due Time...

"Let it not be said that no one cared, that no one objected once it's realized that our liberties and wealth are in jeopardy." - Dr. Ronald Ernest Paul

The Best Way To Shoot Down FDR With Those To Whom He Is A Hero

Is to point out that he interned Japanese-Americans. How would they perceive such a measure if taken by Reagan, Bush Sr., or Bush Jr.?

"Bipartisan: both parties acting in concert to put both of their hands in your pocket."-Rothbard

yup, I do so: every chance I get.

concentration camps, by any other name.

Predictions in due Time...

"Let it not be said that no one cared, that no one objected once it's realized that our liberties and wealth are in jeopardy." - Dr. Ronald Ernest Paul


I'm shocked. Shocked! Still shocked, I tell you!


Predictions in due Time...

"Let it not be said that no one cared, that no one objected once it's realized that our liberties and wealth are in jeopardy." - Dr. Ronald Ernest Paul