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Forget About 2016 Presidential Election!

If the establishment/gop/rnc TRULY want Rand or a True and VETTED Liberty candidate, the money will be there. If they do not, then it will be a repeat of 2008 and 2012. If you attended/watched Tampa Convention you will understand.

Every resource should be used to defeat local/state STATISTS. If there is nobody who is VETTED Liberty running in your area, now is the time to step to the plate.

If there IS a VETTED Liberty candidate running in your area, do everything that you can to assist.

It will take time to reach the hearts and mind of the American people. They are still not ready to abandon their corrupted politicians and team letter. I am seeing this on freedomworks and other places, where santorum and romney are still well liked.

Midterms are one year away. MAKE IT COUNT.



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I agree!

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Until the False National Debt producing

Private Rothschild zionist private central corporate debt counterfieting Federal Reserve Bank is elimiated elections are impossible.

They have the CARROT and the STICK. The CARROT is the unlimited DIGITIZED at a keyboard, funds. To own and control the propaganda, to own and control the vote count. To own and control the installed Juciciary including the so called SUPREME COURT.

The STICK is claims of National Debt collection by the private corporation called the IRS. With these claims of debt collection they can justify any and every immorality including torture and murder. With these false debt claims they convert a free sovereign human into a debt slave.

So NEO will you take the blue pill or the red pill. (NEO dont take any pill)

Any election prior to ending the fed will be just one more evil puppet show.

sovereign

Don't take any pill

and what does that accomplish?

So is being a Constitutionalist a statist?

Ron Paul said many times that issues should be left up to THE STATES. I agreed with this.

The way I see it, from my experience is for example, medical cannabis..

My county decriminalized medical cannabis in 2004 with Measure G. The Sheriff PROTECTS the people in my county, with FORCE, from the STATE of CA and Federal Government, coming to the county and arresting people. The State of CA, passed Proposition 215 in 1996, so my county uses proposition 215 as the LAW that protects Californians from the Federal Government, from coming in and arresting people who, are registered with the state, through a cannabis provider (doctor recomendation), and in the county, through the Sheriff under Measure G.

In this example, Statism in a federal republic with representative democracy, protects the RIGHTS of residents and citizens who comply with the laws established by, of and for the people.

But now... statist has become a BAD thing, and when I look to see what is the opposite, I get a common term, anarchism.. no government. No government is each man for himself, which is great is a sparsly populated area where one may not see a neioghbor for months and when they do it's for trade, ( 10 rabbits for 2 doe).

Now I would think, the statist opposite would be global government, that those who are statist understand that local, state and federal government can and does protect the citizens who comply with the laws, OF, BY, and FOR the people, rather than have a global government, rule over ALL people by those who FORCE THEIR LAWS upon the people and the people have no voice, no choice, no protection.

I find it interesting that global government is no where in any reference to statism.

To me, Ron Paul when he was campaigning was a statis (leave the laws up to the states). I did not see Ron Paul as a globalist, matter of fact, I heard Ron Paul many times refer to fglobal government as the worst tyranny.

It seems to me, this "Liberty Movement", those who would not "get dirty" joining the GOP and helping Ron Paul achieve the GOP nomination, stole Ron Paul's message, many backed another Republican who also stole Ron Paul's message and worked to SPOIL Ron Paul's presidential run as giving an alternative, and then there were those who wrote Ron Paul in, which I have yet to see a Secretary of State page that credits Ron Paul write in votes, for example Rennsylvanis Ron Paul write in 270, Mickey Mouse 1,290, Johosaphat 430....

"Statist" is such an ugly word, isn't it? It's like Satanist. I even see where Obama is not a socialist, but a statist.. and I do not think of Obama as a statist because Obama crushes states rights with global treaties he's signed.

Statism was once a principle that applied to socialist regimes, that the power of the state was not of, by and for the people, but despite the people, as a dictator, does not care what the people want, but only they do what s/he says.

Now it seems that statist has evolved.. It seems to me, that a constitutionalist would be a statist, as they believe the constitution EMPOWERS the state, or federal government based on a representative democracy.

Being the "Champion of the Constitution", would be the greatesy statis ever? No???

Educate me.

Remember Maine

Tampa 2012 and the caucuses ,Iowa ,Missouri, The missed votes ( bad weather my @$$ )

Remember it all

Life is a sexually transmitted disease with a 100% fatality rate.
Don't Give me Liberty, I'll get up and get it myself!

Thank you davyC

for mentioning this in the other thread :-)

There is still time to do work in local/state communities. It is crucial that we have Liberty folks in place who will restrain whoever becomes president, as defined in the Constitution.

"What if the American people learn the truth" - Ron Paul

Midterms are one year away. MAKE IT COUNT

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"What if the American people learn the truth" - Ron Paul

Ignore the system

Stop buying into being ruled. Live free. Be independent. We do not need rulers. As long as people keep promoting the master-slave relationship..."we the people" will always be slaves.

Agreed. Don't Vote....

....it only encourages the bastards.

encourages?

Your lack of participation AKA apthy empowers them to do what they want, how they want, why they want, when they want and you agree.

Exactly

People focus too much on the race for President and not nearly enough on Congress.

Why bother?

How is congress exempt from statism?