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Clark County Republicans oust Ron Paul supporter as chairman

Clark County Republicans oust Ron Paul supporter as chairman
Jul. 20, 2013 |

Associated Press

LAS VEGAS — Clark County Republicans have ousted a Ron Paul supporter in favor of a more conventional establishment leader.

The Las Vegas Review-Journal reported the approximately 600 voting members of the county GOP elected David McKeon as chairman Wednesday by secret ballot.

McKeon drew 319 votes.

Cindy Lake, a more libertarian politician who took over the position last year, lost with 276 votes.

When she won last year, Lake said her election proved there was no GOP war on women.

McKeon told the newspaper the good turnout showed that the county chapter of the GOP was ready fresh leadership.

Lake said she’ll stay involved.
The fight was a bitter one, with McKeon’s opponents circulating documents about his messy divorce and custody battle.

http://www.rgj.com/viewart/20130720/NEWS19/307200037/Clark-C...




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Do you know

how hard it is to recruit people who already gave up on the system?

Here.. I'll make a deal with you. I will go to every single meeting. I will attend it all. And I Bet you I still get ignored.

NJ is a tough state. Agreed.

But 1 delegate can make a huge difference.

Also the point is to recruit more to come with you.

I am still

going to try. I still go to the meetings. I am just tired of the disrespect. I am just speaking for others that are tired of it. So many people quit after Ron. It worries me.

Yeah.

That's what the founding fathers did too.

They got fed up, quit and waited around for the British Empire to crumble.

That's a good plan.

*eyeroll*

They are also well organized.

What I have noticed:

1. The establishment do not complain and post on message boards. They are tight-lipped and arrive on time.

2. When things need done, establishment do no need to ask and beg for help like the folks on this board. They fight to take the job and get it done.

r3VOLution still has a lot to learn.

But then, it is easier to post on a board than to actually do something productive. That is exactly why r3VOLution are being kicked out of committees.

Granger, you are very correct and made a very good post. Plus, I just came back from having wings, we had a planning meeting tonight :-)

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"What if the American people learn the truth" - Ron Paul

...

.

Great points ((((PAF)))))

I agree with all your points. I know that our committee is being watched.. I got into it with "the watcher" yesterday as we argued about the past GOP senate candidate. Their response was to ignor me. They played it, cool,, tried to over talk me (another silencer).. but I'm just telling MY truth, and that's their biggest problem IMO, they want yes people, not truth tellers. And I like them as people go.. they are friendly, I'm just not keen on how they want to do politics.

"Forgive them for they know not what they are doing".

Wings sound great.. hope your meeting went well!

(( Granger ))

I will not spill the beans [I have learned to be tight-lipped as well], but I will tell you this:

In one CD we have a hell of a fight and will most likely lose. In another CD, we will most likely win :-)

"Forgive them for they know not what they are doing".

I feel for others and have an enormous heart, but for now it is on hold ;-)

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ever hear of

tough love?

:D

Yep

I use it quite often :-D

I am such a push-over lol

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Well that explains everything!

((((((((((PAF)))))))))

So sad

we are going to lose again and it'll be even worse.

If they do the same thing to Rand like they did to Ron. I am going to vote third party all over again and Hilary is going to win. Or Obama third term... face it.. I would rather see that, then see some Neo-Con trash bag in office.

Who's "we".

The "we" who went to work and SHOWED UP?

Or the "we" who cried about probably getting cheated again and, therefore, decided not to show up?

Just wondering.

We were cheated

If you seriously have no idea of the fraud that went on in America during the Primaries then sir you are living in a dream world.

Sorry pal, but you are talking to a delegate who was fighting for Ron Paul in jersey but instead Fat Boy Christie decided to put his fat ass on the ballot so every Sheep plugged in his slate.

This is what happens.....

....when libertarians don't show up to the GOP meetings, think other Ron Paul Republicans will take care of it, or throw their hands up and say the "GOP is irredeemable, SO I QUIT."

This is what happens.

"Eternal vigilance" does not mean during an election cycle, it means every day, every week, every month, every year, for ever and ever.

Kudos to the 276 Ron Paul Republicans who were eternally vigilant and showed up. Catcalls to the wildhairs who gave up, quit, or decided someone else would take care of it for them.

All that was needed was 40 more RPRs to show up. To make that up in an election cycle, i.e. to take back over a county party, will take 10 to 100 times, that's right, 1000% or 10,000% the effort vs. just showing up to your county party meetings when you're supposed to.

Libertarians

are not going to show as much as they did for Ron. So just imagine how hard it is going to be this time around.

We are doomed.

So much for "eternal vigilence"....

.

I'm

not going to go out my way and vote you down like most people do here. Sorry bud. I don't have much faith in this Country. I am surrounded by stupid. I was positive the whole year of 2012. I really was excited and the shut down was hurtful.

Think of it this way.

You only have to show up to a meeting once a month to get shunned.

You don't have to sleep on the frozen ground of Valley Forge and then get shot by redcoats.

It's a matter of perspective. Our battle is a much easier than what the founding fathers faced.

The only thing we have to do is stay engaged and keep recruiting.

BRAVO

TRUTH TRUTH TRUTH You told the TRUTH

Maybe they don't show because they are tired of being cheated

Reforming the GOP is unpossible. You might as well try to "take back" the Gambinos. Here is a brief reminder of what happened when Paul supporters do manage to claw their way to the top and take over a state ... http://arkansaswatch.blogspot.com/2013/02/why-it-is-impossib...

Localism is for people who can still sleep at night even though somebody they don't know in a city they have never been is doing things differently. ("Localism, A Philosophy of Government" on Amazon for Kindle or Barnes and Noble ebook websites)

If your not

If your not contributing to Liberty, than your contributing to Tranny.

get off your lazy ass and attend your local GOP monthly meetings!

His name is Edward Snowden

What is Capitalism?
http://youtu.be/yNF09pUPypw

Been there done that. Supporting the GOP is supporting Tyranny

unless you live in Kentucky, Texas, or a couple of other states where the fix is not in. Since you would rather hurl personal abuse at a man you do not know (whose work within the GOP is extensive, I was a paid operative for Republican candidates (helped one win state-wide primary as his Campaign Director) for three cycles in a row including Ron Paul in 2008 and also Vice-Chair of my county committee and State Communications Director for the Young Republicans back in the day)instead of reading the link and responding to my actual arguments, I will post the link in its entirety just to give you one more chance to try and act decently.....

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In a previous article I explained, using what happened in the Nevada GOP as an example, why it is impossible to "retake" or "reform" either of the two terminally corrupt political parties which have captured the government of this country away from its citizens. Though they have elaborate forms to present an image which looks otherwise, they are centrally-controlled top-down organizations which are largely funded by global interests that are indifferent or hostile to the interests of almost all American citizens. Hating me for saying so won't change the facts I cite below.....

With the Nevada GOP, we got a peek at what happens when the grassroots really do successfully jump through the many hoops and accomplish what is never supposed to happen- take over a state party. The mask comes off, and the national party and their politicians quit working with the state party and instead raise up a shadow party to compete with the legitimate Republican party in that state. That is what happened in Nevada. They started a "Team Nevada" run by the same people the grassroots voted out, and Romney and the national GOP worked with them, not the Nevada GOP.

The defeated insiders transferred every penny they could out of the party coffers and into clubs run by small groups of hacks before they walked out the door. The big donors tied to Washington cut off the party. Then they complain that the reformers "can't raise the money needed to keep the party going." Review the article for more details.

Now we are in the process of getting a second lesson, because "outsiders" to the Washington establishment (which of course are "inside" to real communities of real people in the locality) won state party elections in Alaska as well.

It started in 2010. An endorsement by Sarah Palin, with a lot of help from Ron Paul supporters, helped Magistrate Joe Miller win the Republican nomination from liberal republican incumbent Senator Lisa Murkowski. Murkowski was originally appointed to the Senate seat by her father, the Governor. With the help of many in the Republican establishment, Murkowski then ran as a write-in candidate, barely beating Republican Miller in the General election after numerous allegations of election irregularities in her win.

The Miller forces were not happy that so many of the folks who ran the GOP were either openly or covertly backing the liberal write-in incumbent Murkowski over their own party's nominee. That resulted in an almost complete turnover in recent party elections. Long-time chair Randy Ruedrich and his crew were out. Russ Millette and his crew were in. Or at least almost in. A couple of Ruedrich associates leveled charges against Millette in an effort to overturn his election to the state chairmanship, along with another newly elected officer, Debbie Brown.

The charges include that the Chairman elect did not support Republican nominee Romney. This coming from some of the same people who backed Murkowski over GOP nominee Miller! And Millette did not campaign for another candidate, he just did not directly support Romney.

The other charges include a failure to raise money for the party, which they say a Chairman-elect has a duty to do because by the rules he holds the office of "Finance Chairman" from the time of election until he assumes the Chairmanship. Of course, they with-held from him any donor or other information he might need to accomplish this task, and transferred as much of the party's money as they could to small groups controlled by a cadre of establishment shills. This tactic made donors who were sympathetic to Millette very reluctant to donate until after he and his team were in charge of the checkbook! Millette says people have told him that they won't donate until he is in charge, and given the history it is hard to blame them.

In between this time, there was a Republican National Meeting in which the establishment choice for Chairman, Reince Priebus, sought re-election. His reign has been a national disaster for the GOP, but the insiders would rather burn the house to the ground than let the grassroots have it. The Maine Chairman started a campaign to run against Priebus for National Chairman.

A challenge to Priebus required three states to support it in order to be considered. If two states had come in ready to sign onto a challenge, it would have been much easier to find the third. Nevada was the obvious candidate to team with Maine. In fact, the new Nevada GOP announced that they intended to do so, opening the search for the third and final state required. Priebus flew out to Nevada for a secret meeting with Nevada National Committeeman James Smack and Chairman McDonald. When the secret meeting was over, Smack switched his support to Priebus. In fact, they agreed to have Nevada be one of the three states to nominate Priebus! The attempt to get Priebus out was over before it began.

One wonders what Mr. Smack was personally promised in that meeting, because he certainly did not get much for grassroots forces in exchange for the switch. Basically, he had the word of a dishonest person who had done everything in his power to destroy Nevada GOP once the outsiders (that is, real people) took it over, that this person would henceforth "play nice."

Now let's go back to Alaska. The establishment forces were not playing nice. They were trying to overturn the election and block Russ Millette from assuming the chair. Priebus had asked Nevada grassroots to nominate him in a show of "unity". He could have flown to Alaska and asked the outgoing group to drop their ridiculous "charges" and let the election stand as a show of unity. He didn't.

Friday, the day before Russ Millette was to assume the Chairmanship, they brazenly voted Millette "guilty" of failure to raise funds as "Finance Chairman" and blocked him from the Chair. Remember, these were the same people whose actions made it impossible for him to effectively perform these duties. Even his allies were afraid to donate money to the party before he assumed the Chair because they thought the insiders would just steal it. In fact, just in case their kangeroo court did not stand, they transferred another $34,000 out of the party treasury and into a "sister" organization the day beforehand.

They also accused Millette of misrepresenting himself as not being a "true lifelong Republican". Of course, there is no written requirement that one has to be a lifelong Republican to assume the chair. They found him guilty of a phantom rule that they made up on the spot!

You cannot win in a contest where the other side makes the rules, changes the rules in the middle of the game, and if they lose according to those rules they simply ignore them and bull doze over you anyway. The moral decision is to quit the game and denounce it for the obvious fraud it is, not compromise yourself to a system you know is corrupt in hopes of somehow gaining "influence". You have as much chance joining the Gambinos in the hope of "reforming" and "taking them back" for any moral purpose.

But you may say "oh that is just what they want us to do". In the short term yes. In the middle to long term though, they need legitimacy. This policy they seem to have of stamping out all grassroots efforts to reform them, though in their short term interests, will in the long term cost them legitimacy. Their little club will lose legitimacy in the eyes of the citizens at an even faster pace than it otherwise would if nice people like you refuse to lend your good name to it. And this policy has the added advantage that your good name will not be tarnished by close association with either gang of thieves which will soon be seen for what they are by 90% of the country instead of just being seen as such by the minority who see the truth now. Very soon the majority of citizens will see the two DC based political parties as the gangs of thieves who destroyed America.

There are other ways to engage in politics, at least at the state and local level. As a localist, I suggest the policy put for in Localism, A Philosophy of Government (Barnes and Noble E-Book) (Amazon Kindle E-book). They suggest that local or regional (within a state) groups recruit and back their own candidates for small offices. Political power should be dispersed so that there is no one set of "leaders" that the corrupt can buy off. I could write a lot about it, but its better you get it all from the book.
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Localism is for people who can still sleep at night even though somebody they don't know in a city they have never been is doing things differently. ("Localism, A Philosophy of Government" on Amazon for Kindle or Barnes and Noble ebook websites)

The only thing I get

Is that you don't want a fight, would prefer for someone else to fight for you, don't know how to be a team, fear the establishment, and would rather keep them in power.

Quitters NEVER win, and that's all you are.

Annnnnnd you blew it.

I gave you one more chance to act decently, view and address the actual evidence and what I have already done, and all I get from you is more snarling and name-calling.

I say not to you but to those who understand what is going on and want real answers instead of spending more of your years changing into the meat-grinder and want to war wisely, there is a better way. It is the one outlined in the chapter on "political parties" in "Localism, A Philosophy of Government". The centralizers and the controllers will hate this strategy it suggests, because it can't be centralized, can't be controlled, and can't be bought off. http://www.amazon.com/Localism-A-Philosophy-Government-ebook...

Localism is for people who can still sleep at night even though somebody they don't know in a city they have never been is doing things differently. ("Localism, A Philosophy of Government" on Amazon for Kindle or Barnes and Noble ebook websites)

Excuse me

I didn't call you any names and I'm not snarling at you. DO WHAT YOU WANT. If you think you are being affective doing nothing but waxing philosphically.. GO FOR IT.

What meat grinder? Maybe you think competiton is a meat grinder?

The GOP is not a rose garden with a tea service. If you don't want the centralizers and cintrollers to remain in power, you replace them. Corproations have money to pay people to be there. The rEVOLution does not. It depends on people to show up and stand up for restoring the republic.

I'm not damning you if that is not what you want to do.

What I don't appreciate is you, who have NO experience in the GOP, telling me what the GOP is.

You don't know, and by whet you say it is, my experience says you are wrong. You look at the GOP as a collective and that is not what it is.. it's individuals with different agendas that come together representing their communities and working together to further their agendas.. and when we can't come together, we fight. No big deal, unless you are unwilling to fight for what you beieve in.

What is WRONG with you?

YOU WRITE: "I didn't call you any names and I'm not snarling at you."

AFTER WRITING: "get off your lazy ass and attend your local GOP monthly meetings!"

AND: "Is that you don't want a fight, would prefer for someone else to fight for you, don't know how to be a team, fear the establishment, and would rather keep them in power.

Quitters NEVER win, and that's all you are."

Go back and look at what you wrote. Maybe you don't realize what you are saying or how you are coming off.

Localism is for people who can still sleep at night even though somebody they don't know in a city they have never been is doing things differently. ("Localism, A Philosophy of Government" on Amazon for Kindle or Barnes and Noble ebook websites)

For that matter, READ WHAT I WROTE:

You wrote "What I don't appreciate is you, who have NO experience in the GOP, telling me what the GOP is."

After I wrote "Since you would rather hurl personal abuse at a man you do not know (whose work within the GOP is extensive, I was a paid operative for Republican candidates (helped one win state-wide primary as his Campaign Director) for three cycles in a row including Ron Paul in 2008 and also Vice-Chair of my county committee and State Communications Director for the Young Republicans back in the day)"

Yes, I know what the GOP is. I played the game at a fairly high level, that is how I know it is rigged. IF you are in one of the states where it is not rigged, stay at it. I know the situation where I live and it is time for another option. Not a new hierarchy, but a network.

Localism is for people who can still sleep at night even though somebody they don't know in a city they have never been is doing things differently. ("Localism, A Philosophy of Government" on Amazon for Kindle or Barnes and Noble ebook websites)

As a paid operative

So what it is rigged, by paid operatives.

I joined the Libertarian party in 76, stayed until 92.. got out because it is rigged (just look at all the Republicans, including Ron Paul, who takes nominations from hard working Libertarians who are far more deserving.

I went Indy under the advice of Ralph Nader to open debates and get third party and Indy ballot access 92 - 2011). For four elections, we earned dozens of laws suits, in dozens of states, and never got a debate, needed at least 7 third parties to get ballot access, and we never got ballot access in OK.. we were censored, broken bones, false arrests, matter of fact, by comparison, the Ron Paul campaign was a cake walk.

I and many people I know, are awre the GOP is rigged, all elections are rigged, Ron Paul INVITED us into the GOP, and this is where we have decided to go for it. despite all the rigging, it's still a CAKE WALK by comparison to thirs party and Indy campaigns.

So now that I have a GOP liberty Committee which is not alone.. someone like you comes to DP to make sure people stay out of the GOP?

Because you are going to do what? Think you are smarter than Ralph Nader politically? We spent our donations on attorneys and lost every case, no matter how wrong they were, or right we were.. when we were right, the case was dropped and never heard.

What I am sure that we did, was help each state sew up the election process so NO Indy or third party will ever get ballot access ior in a debate.

Do what you want. I'm standing with Rand and ready for Pribus and the silencer.

Quitters never win. That's just the way it is.

Wah?

Am I hearing you cry?

What did you think? You'd show up and everyone would give you a round of applause just for showing up when they've been at it for 20 years or more? LOL

Anyway, Ron Paul disagrees with you.