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Stop The Presses. New Revelations About National Security Threat!


http://youtu.be/pJRTqOvCaAg

Perhaps this will expose trollism for what it is, and reinforce the message of Liberty.

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Police are 8 times more of a

Police are 8 times more of a threat to national security than terrorists. Police kill 800% more Americans that terrorists do.

Are you an anarchist missionary?

:)

There must be an Official Label Generation Dept. somewhere supplying the Statists.

like all anarchist missionaries

This guy use exaggeration and demonization tactics in addition to the brainwashing technique of implying that all those that do not see his obvious truth are either too stupid or to much in denial to get it. Beware of people that act with that much certainty without humility.

give something specific of

give something specific of exaggeration and demonization tactics... I have no doubt some would not wake up evn beaten by 2x4 on the head. Rose is pin pointing the nature of Gov, to shift the focus away from this is a diservice.

Thanks for the comment.

However I'm confused as to what you mean by this?

" ... the brainwashing technique of implying that all those that do not see his obvious truth are either too stupid or to much in denial to get it."

Perhaps you can clarify a couple of things.

1) Technique. Can you give example of where he is doing this?

2) What point/points does he make that that you find untrue or take exception with?

TIA

my response

I understand that Rose represents the beliefs of many people on Daily Paul and particularly many of my anarchist friends in the Free State Project. We can agree to disagree.

I believe he exaggerates the self-interest position as Ayn Rand does. He is overly cynical about human nature and the role and function of businesses and government. I believe most successful business people take great pride in the fact that they have made something or offered a service that contributed to society in a positive way. At the same time, they made a lot of money. This is not an either-or position. Same with government. Mostly good intentions that get way out of hand because systems invariably grow over time.

He speaks as if he is an oracle with privileged knowledge.

Brainwashing

“Here is where it gets to the uncomfortable part that most people don’t want to deal with.”

“Pay close attention because you are not going to want to hear this.”

“Once you understand that it will make a lot more sense”

“Most Americans are mushy in the head.”

The anarchist philosophy.

“The American government is the great Satan.”

“The United States government is not and has never been an organization that cares about people or serves the people or helps the people…. It is your enemy. Government will always be the enemy of the people.”

Flat wrong and dangerous.

This guy is not a libertarian and the Liberty Movement does not gain converts or strength when these folks speak IMHO. They also influence many young and impressionable people that are susceptible to all or nothing thinking.

Thanks for the reply.

I don't agree with your points.

Beware of what?

People that want to be left alone and leave others alone? Is that high on the list of things one needs to beware of?

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Freedom - Peace - Prosperity

like all anarchist missionaries

This guy use exaggeration and demonization tactics in addition to the brainwashing technique of implying that all those that do not see his obvious truth are either too stupid or to much in denial to get it. Beware of people that act with that much certainty without humility.

Why?

Do you Label Larken as anything?

Can't you discuss ideas without forcing a negative label on someone that NEVER even speaks of it?

What on EARTH would cause you to be against the rights and responsibilities of the individual that he speaks about?

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Re- BUMP.

Re- BUMP.

"Cyril" pronounced "see real". I code stuff.

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"To study and not think is a waste. To think and not study is dangerous." -- Confucius

A mismanaged medical care system and sick nation

is big business. Larken’s points are illustrated by the self-serving interests of Big Pharma and its willing participants.
Ron Paul: “Government has been mismanaging medical care for more than 45 years; for every problem it has created it has responded by exponentially expanding the role of government.”

When Big Pharma was allowed political and social influence over our health care system by the way it is regulated and promoted, conflicts of interest arose between the public stated missions of government agencies including the FDA, doctors, hospitals and university medical schools and reliance on Big Pharma’s financial largesse.
www.drugwatch.com/manufacturer/

Big Bucks, Big Pharma - - Media Education Foundation
www.mediaed.org/videos/MediaAndHealth/BigBucksBigPharma

I had bookmarked these links, and finally got around to them.

Thanks, if these haven't had their own thread I think they merit one.

Ron Paul

Summed it up with this quote, "War is the health of the state". The analogy Larkin made with McDonald's is brilliant. Every organization wants to grow, be it a small business, a corporation, a Charity, and that desire to grow is at times in conflict with what they want you to believe what the purpose of that organization is.

Can anyone here give other examples of how an industry, a profession, corporations, or other organized group that feathers its own nest in this manner?
The medical industry, the legal business, accounting business, insurance business, the news business, agriculture, or other industry? Its not always hurtful, or wrong, but this desire to grow the organization at any cost can come in conflict with what is assumed what the true purpose of the organization is.

Our government has evolved

into a "rodent's butt". Seriously, very good video. If I could articulate these points as well as Larkin, I know I would have converted many more to the way of truth and liberty. I want to watch it several times so that I can share these excellent points within and without my circle of influence.

Thanks for posting.

That first point that he made

Is what brought me to libertarianism. I thought, as soon as the government no longer serves my interest, than I am no longer apart of its group. And if it forces me to do things that I dont want to do than I am its slave.

Séamusín

It really is that simple.

Isn't it.

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That's the part I find amazing: the simplicity of Liberty

After 40+ years of reading spaghetti-like and contradictory tax codes, insurance plans, medical agreements, employment requirements, etc -- it sure is refreshing to realize that 2+2 really does = 4.

I cannot give someone else the right to do something I do not have the right to do. Simple. Similarly, if "I and one other cannot" starts the sentence, it has the same meaning. Using the "1, 2, N" approach, we then say "I and everyone else cannot" to start the sentence, and it continues to have the same meaning.

Therefore, the use of force by "authorities" is indefensible.

I love simplicity.

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There are two ways I

view torture. One, if the person being tortured has viable information, they will spill it to stop the torture. Two, if the person being tortured doesn't have information, they will tell their captors anything they want to hear to stop the torture. Either way, to me, torture is a morally offensive act.

If someone had told me 40 years ago that presidents of the United States can start preemptive wars without congressional approval (Vietnam should have been a lesson), that the president would have a kill list, which president can kill American citizens (one being a 16 year old and his friend) on foreign soil without benefit of due process, that the president, through HHS, (with the compliance of a passive congress) can initiate "patient navigators" (probably former ACORN community organizers) to direct people to sign up for health insurance (and sign up to vote), which "patient navigators" probably have very little education and 2 days of training which permits them access to a Fed Data Hub to rummage through my personal information, I would have thought they were out of their minds.

Love Larken's point of views.!!!

They are just plain true and to the point!!!

Another Excellent post

Love Liberty, be Vigilant

"Now the Lord is that Spirit: and where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is liberty" (2 Corinthians 3:17)

Faith in God will prevail all things!

I hope this tread is alive tomorrow.

Respect for the truth has kept a lot of civilizations free.

Gave you a bump late last night.

I see this is on the Front Page this morning. Let's hope it stays there a while.

Don't expect a comment (good or bad) from the provocateurs. It's too truthful, so they have to fight it. What they do when they see a truthful post is to create similar posts (with catchy titles) to draw traffic away. I have to wonder why they are so fearful of people learning the truth.

Shortly after I posted this http://www.dailypaul.com/293538/zionism-a-crash-course-for-a..., a seemingly similar thread was posted http://www.dailypaul.com/293582/beginners-guide-to-the-zioni... filled with all the hateful racism that turns people away from ever getting at the truth. That was closely followed by another deliberate post http://www.dailypaul.com/293600/the-legal-case-for-palestine. It's right out of the Zionist propaganda play book. It's what provocateurs do. All part of the constant brainwashing games they play.

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I saw that 'bait and switch'

I call it 'bait and switch' or 'twist and shout'! lol! Here's a bump for the OP video and the truth! It think the forum is JIDF targeted as well as other entities at play. Not the first time and won't be the last. :(

LOL

More like 'spin and throw a temper tantrum'. Then the drama starts all over again with the pity me play and all the fake love and hugs.

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And then come the stories

in an effort to impress and give credibility lol!

Pathological Liar
http://www.nbc.com/saturday-night-live/video/weekend-update-...

Notice the 'issues' Posts.

It's also a filter.

Those that stand for Torture and non Christian principles haven't shown a comment.

While 'issue' posts have proliferated.

Basic American ideas are considered to be dead. I don't think so.

Thats the kind of guy

I need to do the "wake up citizens" seminars.

Thumbs up

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Plant the seeds now.

Thank you.

The fertilizer in on it's way big time.